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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1481 » by Luv those Knicks » Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:24 am

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HarthorneWingo wrote:He pitched well tonight. Those three bleeders in the 6th hurt him.

Nice to take a series. But who starts tomorrow? My buddy told me that Blackburn is hurt now too.


I'd only be guessing. Butto? Waddel? Hagenmen? Hamel, if they do a 40 man move, or maybe McLean if they want to be bold and start his clock early.

At least we're going up against Stroman tomorrow. He's been awful this year.

McLean has my vote.


I was just going to post an update. McLean pitched tonight, so did Hamel, so they're out. I'm sure the Mets have made their decision and it might be a lot of bullpen arms. I have no clue who'll go tomorrow.

Peterson's been solid for the last 2 years. Sometimes it takes pitchers a while to work it out.
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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1482 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jul 4, 2025 8:38 am

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I'd only be guessing. Butto? Waddel? Hagenmen? Hamel, if they do a 40 man move, or maybe McLean if they want to be bold and start his clock early.

At least we're going up against Stroman tomorrow. He's been awful this year.

McLean has my vote.


I was just going to post an update. McLean pitched tonight, so did Hamel, so they're out. I'm sure the Mets have made their decision and it might be a lot of bullpen arms. I have no clue who'll go tomorrow.

Peterson's been solid for the last 2 years. Sometimes it takes pitchers a while to work it out.


Maybe we should’ve held him out from the minor league start in order to bring him up for a spot start. In any case, I think Waddel and Hagenman will get starts over the weekend against the Yankees

I think we’re supposed to get Manaea and Senga back next week. And then Brooks Raley sometime shortly after that.
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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1483 » by Luv those Knicks » Fri Jul 4, 2025 6:59 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:McLean has my vote.


I was just going to post an update. McLean pitched tonight, so did Hamel, so they're out. I'm sure the Mets have made their decision and it might be a lot of bullpen arms. I have no clue who'll go tomorrow.

Peterson's been solid for the last 2 years. Sometimes it takes pitchers a while to work it out.


Maybe we should’ve held him out from the minor league start in order to bring him up for a spot start. In any case, I think Waddel and Hagenman will get starts over the weekend against the Yankees

I think we’re supposed to get Manaea and Senga back next week. And then Brooks Raley sometime shortly after that.


Hanegman today. I think it's Holmes tomorrow, which is a kind of Holmescoming for him. (hehe, pretend I didn't say that). Waddel wouldn't surprise me for game 3.

Despite our ugly losing stretch, we still have a better record than the Yankees. I hope we win a few.

and Soto was named the player of the Month for June. He's been nifty lately.

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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1484 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jul 5, 2025 8:11 pm

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I was just going to post an update. McLean pitched tonight, so did Hamel, so they're out. I'm sure the Mets have made their decision and it might be a lot of bullpen arms. I have no clue who'll go tomorrow.

Peterson's been solid for the last 2 years. Sometimes it takes pitchers a while to work it out.


Maybe we should’ve held him out from the minor league start in order to bring him up for a spot start. In any case, I think Waddel and Hagenman will get starts over the weekend against the Yankees

I think we’re supposed to get Manaea and Senga back next week. And then Brooks Raley sometime shortly after that.


Hanegman today. I think it's Holmes tomorrow, which is a kind of Holmescoming for him. (hehe, pretend I didn't say that). Waddel wouldn't surprise me for game 3.

Despite our ugly losing stretch, we still have a better record than the Yankees. I hope we win a few.

and Soto was named the player of the Month for June. He's been nifty lately.

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I’ll feel better when we get Senga and Manaea back.

That was some game yesterday though.
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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1485 » by Barcs » Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:22 pm

I'd love to see the Mets make a move for Seth Lugo. They should have never let him go in the first place.
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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1486 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:09 am

Barcs wrote:I'd love to see the Mets make a move for Seth Lugo. They should have never let him go in the first place.

If we’re trying to win the WS, it’s time to sell off some minor leaguers.
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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1487 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:55 am

Some good news despite the only loss in the final game of the three game series against the Royals:

1. Sean Manaea is BACK! He was excellent in relief today - his first appearance with the Mets since coming off the DL.

2. Mark Vientos had another 2-hit game hitting out of the 2 spot.

3. Senga pitched 4 shutout innings Friday night in his first start off the DL.

4. Montas pitched 5 innings of 1-run ball (0 walks, 5 Ks) on Saturday in his second start since coming off the DL.

5. Brooks Raley will be back in the BP after the All Star break.

6. Francisco Alvarez has hit 8 HRs in the last 13 games in AAA and should also be back up after the break.

Reasons to be optimistic.
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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1488 » by Luv those Knicks » Mon Jul 14, 2025 11:03 am

MLB draft started yesterday. The Mets have the 2nd lowest draft allotment with their top pick falling 10 spots and with signing Soto. They reportedly didn't want to sign Nick Pivetta and lose even more draft picks and looking at the year Pivetta is having, that may have been a mistake.

Still, even without a ton of picks, the draft is fun.

They went with two college players on day one.

Mitch Volt (late 1st round, #38 overall I think), a 2nd baseman and as of last year a two way player. I'd guess they won't develop him as two way but you never know. He's got the arm to maybe move to 3rd and the speed to try the OF, so he's an interesting player with some upside and potential.

And Antonio Jimenez (3rd round, 103 overall), a SS with plus reflexes and . . . reports of throwing the ball 100 MPH (I wonder if he's ever tried pitching), so the defense looks like he will stick at short and even be plus there. The bat is a bigger question, but he's young, he's strong, he just strikes out a bit too much and reportedly swings at almost everything. If he can improve on that, he's a potential plus player as well. BP liked Jimenez a lot, some of their writers putting him in the top 50. Others had him ranked lower. MLB's ranking had him 192, but ranking draft prospects is hit or miss, so I wouldn't read too much into that.

It's possible that both players are under-slots and that the Mets will draft another big name, perhaps a HS kid, like Trey Snyder last year (1.3 million - well over-slot for the 5th round) or Boston Baro the year before (700 K, 8th round).

For more details on the guys they picked:

https://www.amazinavenue.com/2025/7/13/24466696/2025-mets-draft-profile-mitch-voit-rhp-inf

https://www.amazinavenue.com/2025/7/14/24467322/2025-mets-draft-profile-antonio-jimenez-ss

Todays picks, 133, 163, 193 . . . etc. Rounds 4-10.
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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1489 » by Luv those Knicks » Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:39 am

MLB draft day 2.

I didn't realize, the draft was consolidated. It used to be 3 days, now it's 3, with rounds 1-3 on day 1 and rounds 4-20 on day 2.

Summary of the Mets picks:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/new-york-mets-2025-mlb-draft-recap/ar-AA1IBoIH?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=cac0f62518d9453aa72bc63d9f76bcaa&ei=9

It looks like they saved some money on their first 2 picks, rounds 1 & 3, and will use that to sign a few high schoolers, probably rounds 4, 8 and 9, with rounds 11 and 18 probably being long-shots, but time will tell.

They went heavy on pitching with 14 pitchers signed, 6 position players, counting Voit as a hitter, not a two way player.

and 2 pitchers they picked are recovering from Tommy John, something they did last year as well, picking players they think will have upside post recovery.

With limited funding, it feels to me like they did a solid job. But, have to wait and see who they sign.
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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1490 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:25 pm

Any fun trade rumors?
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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1491 » by Luv those Knicks » Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:05 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Any fun trade rumors?


I don't know. I think Cohen & Stearns are kind of hush-hush about what they're actually planning on the trade market, so I take any rumors with a big grain of salt.

Their pitchers are coming back, so they're not so short handed anymore. Senga, Holmes, Peterson, Montas, Manaea makes 5, so they can work in the occasional spot starter and not bring in a full time starter, unless they want to trade for depth.

I don't think they'll do a big move. Maybe they'll trade some of their prospects outside their top 6 or so for a CF or a relief pitcher, possibly a spot starter type (like their trade for Blackburn last year), but time will tell. I don't think Stearns will deplete their system and go all in this year.
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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1492 » by Luv those Knicks » Sat Jul 19, 2025 2:43 am

Ugly game tonight. Manaea pitched well for 4 innings (69 pitches), the bullpen then blew the game. They also lost Max Kranick to Tommy John. He's out for the year and a chunk of next year.
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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1493 » by Luv those Knicks » Wed Jul 30, 2025 9:30 pm

Wow bit trade today. 1 day left till the end of the trade deadline.

Little trade first.

The mets traded Wellington Aracena and Cameron Foster to the O's for Greg Soto. Soto's an above average, but inconsistent reliever, too many walks. He's great against lefties though, so he has his uses. He's a free agent after this year, but he's a solid add.

Wellington Aracena has plus stuff. He was ranked about the Mets 20th best prospect. He's young, and a still a year or two away from even needing to be added to the 40 man roster for protection. A solid get for the O's, but not a huge price to pay for bullpen help, especially since the Mets pen has been struggling lately. lefty relievers are useful. Solid trade for both teams I think.

Now, the big trade.

The Mets paid a pretty price for Tyler Rogers, who's lead the league in games pitched 4 of the last 6 years including this year. He's 34 and a free agent after this year, but he's a legit set-up man and he makes this team better.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/new-york-mets-acquire-workhorse-relief-pitcher-in-trade-with-san-francisco-giants/ar-AA1JBxyF?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=688a8635914b42d8b36f5560e01721cc&ei=12

They gave up: Jose Butto, who's spot they probably wanted to open up on the 26 man. Blade Tidwell (I knew Tidwell as a trade candidate. He's a spot starter, his fastball is a little too straight and he's probably better than his current 9.00 ERA and 7.43 WHIP over 15 innings, but he doesn't look like he's ever going to be more than a swingman. The Mets also gave the Giants Drew Gilbert, and that might hurt. Gilbert's numbers don't stand out, but in AAA he's got an 11% walk rate and a 16% K rate, which is solid, some power, a plus arm and respectable glove. He's maybe an average CF and a plus defensive RF, maybe a 4th OF type, but possibly more.

The Giants at .500 are still, maybe, if you squint, in the playoff hunt, but I guess they saw 3 players as better than 1 very good reliever and all 3 guys could play a role for the giants when rosters expand. Butto before then because he's out of options.

As for the Mets, the probably believe that Benge is the future. Benge has been tearing it up lately. They have a few other guys who could maybe see time in the OF, like Jett Williams, so they felt that Gilbert was expendable for Tyler Rodgers, who shores up their bullpen nicely.

I don't think anyone believes that Gilbert will be the next Pete Crow Armstrong, but it's possible that Gilbert will have a good enough career to make us regret this trade, but you have to pay to add good pieces. There's no simple way around that.

I think the Mets did OK. I'm curious if they have another move planned.


And one more trade for St. Louis' reliever, Ryan Helsley, also an expiring deal.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/cardinals-send-ryan-helsley-to-mets-in-trade-deadline-blockbuster/ar-AA1JBIKH?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=50f2b7baa6a64f1882baf1b9185cdf7f&ei=7

Baez, who got some attention last year and made BA's top 100, though he fell out o their top 100 this year and Nate Dohm, drafted last year, having a nice season so far. Elissalt wasn't in their top 30, but had solid numbers and also drafted last year. Org depth for St. Louis.

A high price to pay for 2 rentals, but Mets are going for it this year. I respect that. I wonder if they'll add a hitter before the deadline.

Still, with the high payment, the Mets didn't give up any top prospects and they eased some of their roster crowding. Butto was a bad outing or two away from being DFA'd. Tidwell was on the 40, but not very useful this year and Gilbert would have been added to the 40 this off-season, so they have more room now and in the off-season. Baez was the only one who was maybe in their top 10 and he was close to the back of their top 10.
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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1494 » by The Lamma » Sun Aug 24, 2025 4:33 pm

Glad we got that awful losing streak in the rearview mirror. Iirc we were 2-13 for the worst of it there. We finally have a least a liiittle bit of breathing room for the last wild card, but surely not enough to be comfortable. Currently 2.5 games up on the Reds. Knock on wood. LFGM!

Soto has been going yard a bit more lately. And one of the most enjoyable parts of a Mets game is simply watching how he relishes each at bat and how he goes about his business in the batters box with kicking dirt around, staring down the pitcher, wagging his body as he gets into his stance, and stepping out of the box in a timely fashion to throw off the pitcher and work the count. Has a very good eye to go with, it's masterful stuff and great entertainment

Baty had two monster second deck shots vs the Nats that were beautiful. He's got a great swing. McNeil doesn't choke up on the bat as much as he used to. And I know it's been awhile since he has, but he did choke up way more the year he was batting champ

We're thin at catcher until Alvarez returns. Vientos is hitting more consistently after a slow start
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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1495 » by Context » Thu Aug 28, 2025 1:12 am

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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1496 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:04 am

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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1497 » by The Lamma » Tue Sep 2, 2025 2:12 pm

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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1498 » by GIMME_DATT » Sun Sep 28, 2025 10:08 pm

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Re: OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19) 

Post#1499 » by knicksfan974 » Sun Sep 28, 2025 10:13 pm

Well that was disappointing.
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