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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#281 » by Lennyzinho » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:11 pm

eddieheatfan wrote:i stopped watching now. they are losing 12, its possible that lakers lead will balloon more. our team looks pretty scrubby right now


Everyone wanted knecht. Dude is 24, in his 2nd year has 4 turnovers, 4 pts and 0-3 from 3 right now.

Kaspar just turned 19 in May. Hes also playing with a bunch of summer league dudes. Zero chemistry. Literally his 2nd game. Energy in here is just non stop whining. Good lord. At least be objective.
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Post#282 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 11:16 pm

Yall are ridiculous… with or without Herro included in the deal, Utah got the better offer for Mitchell from Cavs because they always had more to offer than what we did. They just had to offer one more asset than what we had to offer, which they did. Simple as that…

Mitchell was always my main target and most coveted player since draft night… so I assure you I wanted it to happen above all others. We just got outbid one asset beyond our best possible offer.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#283 » by MartyCONLONNN » Sun Jul 6, 2025 11:18 pm

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eddieheatfan wrote:i stopped watching now. they are losing 12, its possible that lakers lead will balloon more. our team looks pretty scrubby right now


Everyone wanted knecht. Dude is 24, in his 2nd year has 4 turnovers, 4 pts and 0-3 from 3 right now.

Kaspar just turned 19 in May. Hes also playing with a bunch of summer league dudes. Zero chemistry. Literally his 2nd game. Energy in here is just non stop whining. Good lord. At least be objective.


Mentioned this earlier in the thread, but it's very possible that Kas needs a development year esp because his skillset takes a lot of craft and time to understand how to read this level of defensive athleticism/IQ. Jovic had a year of development and now a lot of fans love him. He's not star in the making though - at least from tiny sample size.

I think this is why you consider taking a flier on Beal with a 3 guard rotation + Pelle playing situationally. Remember Bam is an initiator in our offense esp with Ware being a starting 5 so Beal could work in some lineups without a conventional PG at all times. I also think it's good to put as much talent around Ware, Jovic and JJJ so they dont overextend their roles. Something to consider.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#284 » by Vertical Limit » Sun Jul 6, 2025 11:34 pm

If marcus smart gets bought out we need to jump on that .. we need another point guard and there is a lot of benefit for davion to learn from marcus

Kasparas is going to spend time in Sioux Falls,that you can bet the house on
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#285 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jul 6, 2025 11:37 pm

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eddieheatfan wrote:i stopped watching now. they are losing 12, its possible that lakers lead will balloon more. our team looks pretty scrubby right now


Everyone wanted knecht. Dude is 24, in his 2nd year has 4 turnovers, 4 pts and 0-3 from 3 right now.

Kaspar just turned 19 in May. Hes also playing with a bunch of summer league dudes. Zero chemistry. Literally his 2nd game. Energy in here is just non stop whining. Good lord. At least be objective.


Mentioned this earlier in the thread, but it's very possible that Kas needs a development year esp because his skillset takes a lot of craft and time to understand how to read this level of defensive athleticism/IQ. Jovic had a year of development and now a lot of fans love him. He's not star in the making though - at least from tiny sample size.

I think this is why you consider taking a flier on Beal with a 3 guard rotation + Pelle playing situationally. Remember Bam is an initiator in our offense esp with Ware being a starting 5 so Beal could work in some lineups without a conventional PG at all times. I also think it's good to put as much talent around Ware, Jovic and JJJ so they dont overextend their roles. Something to consider.


IF you have the opportunity to add guys like Beal and Dame for the minimum you do it and then that’s why Spo is one of the best/highest paid coaches in history. It’s on him to figure it out. Thats too much talent to pass up for that price because the fit is weird with a guy who never shows up in the postseason.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#286 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jul 6, 2025 11:38 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:If marcus smart gets bought out we need to jump on that .. we need another point guard and there is a lot of benefit for davion to learn from marcus

Kasparas is going to spend time in Sioux Falls,that you can bet the house on


Is that something that’s being rumored? It looks to me like they’re building a nice mix of vets to go with their youth to teach them the ways.
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Post#287 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:01 am

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Post#288 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:31 am

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Post#289 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:32 am

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Post#290 » by Rapaz » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:32 am

Don’t waste your time. He’s coming to LA.

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Post#291 » by Wiltside » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:41 am

Rapaz with AI is dangerous work :laugh:
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Post#292 » by Daffy » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:52 am

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This low-key why I feel he won't come to Miami. He's probably gonna feel spited by us.
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Post#293 » by Wiltside » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:54 am

If Beal is who Barry was referencing, that's a fair let down.

Mind you - he was a terrible fit in Phoenix. He could be better here, perhaps.
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Post#294 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:01 am

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This low-key why I feel he won't come to Miami. He's probably gonna feel spited by us.


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Post#295 » by Daffy » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:06 am

Wiltside wrote:If Beal is who Barry was referencing, that's a fair let down.

Mind you - he was a terrible fit in Phoenix. He could be better here, perhaps.


To be fair he wasn't "terrible" in Phoenix. He just didn't provide what they needed. He was redundant when you have KD and Booker. They all play a similar style of ball at this point in their careers. Beal was still a very efficient scorer which is who he's been most of his career. Phoenix needed steady PG play and Beal said he struggled trying to be more of a facilitator than a scorer. Phoenix also needed defense and Beal isn't known as an elite defender.

I think here in Miami he would have a clearer role as a scorer on the perimeter which is an area where we still need help and honest have needed help even during the Jimmy years. My issue with having Beal is who the hell plays PG? The following lineup isnt a bad line up on paper

Herro
Beal
Wiggins
Bam
Ware

Do you swap out Wiggins for Jovic for more of a facilitator to help? In that scenario you lose a defensive presence in Wiggins (He should be better defensively with a full off season....I hope). Wiggins would be allowed off the bench to jack up some shots in that scenario though.
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Post#296 » by CrossOver » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:07 am

Wiltside wrote:If Beal is who Barry was referencing, that's a fair let down.

Mind you - he was a terrible fit in Phoenix. He could be better here, perhaps.


It was who he was referencing, he confirmed it this morning.

Beal on this roster would be a breath of fresh air given how offensively illiterate it currently is.
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Post#297 » by Daffy » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:09 am

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This low-key why I feel he won't come to Miami. He's probably gonna feel spited by us.


Dame too


To be fair Dame's GM in Portland was being a bitch. That wasn't on Miami. I do agree with you that Dame and Bam are still really tight. I think Dame probably might look at it as if he can get back to full health he could help carry Miami. I think we have a 70% chance of landing Dame. The team isn't as bad as people think. We just need more juice offensively and continued growth from the younger dudes.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#298 » by Wiltside » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:18 am

CrossOver wrote:
Wiltside wrote:If Beal is who Barry was referencing, that's a fair let down.

Mind you - he was a terrible fit in Phoenix. He could be better here, perhaps.


It was who he was referencing, he confirmed it this morning.

Beal on this roster would be a breath of fresh air given how offensively illiterate it currently is.


It wasn’t exactly new news though was it. Barry dropping the eyes emojis and acting like it was some insider scoop, everyone knows Beal was either available or considering a buyout.

I agree though. Beal would add something, we need more guys who can actually get a bucket.
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Post#299 » by oreon » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:29 am

Beal on the roster is stupid. It's a play to stay relevant it doesn't help you basketball wise. If you are gonna run it back next summer, they focus a 100 % on the young guys and Bam/Herro. Either Bam/Herro or the young guy make a leap or they fail and you get a good draft pick. What you don't want is leaning on a 32 year old Bradley at the expense of Bam/Herro to make the play in again and bounced in 1st round. What's the point of that ?

At the very least whatever happens next season, you want to be able to make a decision one way or another on the Bam/Herro core. Either go all in or rebuild. So lets the season be about them rather than Bradley Beal.
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Post#300 » by marson » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:55 am

oreon wrote:Beal on the roster is stupid. It's a play to stay relevant it doesn't help you basketball wise. If you are gonna run it back next summer, they focus a 100 % on the young guys and Bam/Herro. Either Bam/Herro or the young guy make a leap or they fail and you get a good draft pick. What you don't want is leaning on a 32 year old Bradley at the expense of Bam/Herro to make the play in again and bounced in 1st round. What's the point of that ?

At the very least whatever happens next season, you want to be able to make a decision one way or another on the Bam/Herro core. Either go all in or rebuild. So lets the season be about them rather than Bradley Beal.


At this point, every buyout player is apparently destined to join the Miami Heat, like it’s written in their contract or something.

Meanwhile, some fans are starting to sound like classic spoiled Lakers fans.

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