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Post#81 » by GEE » Wed Jul 9, 2025 3:35 am

I explained why very clearly I thought... Pritchard, like several others we saw in this years' playoffs, is a pure PG like Hali and TJ are for the Pacers. Jrue is quite far from a pure PG.... thus, a reason to perhaps talk about a possible Pritchard addition. Also, It's ON TOPIC.

Unless the plan is for Deni to be the full-time Point(forward) and handle the rock like Tatum does (which I'm betting he won't), OR... if one thinks that Scoot is at all reliable (and I don't currently), I think he'd be a great addition.

I just would prefer to see, as I'd said, Scoot/Pritchard at PG, instead of the common vibe of Jrue/Scoot.

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Post#82 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Wed Jul 9, 2025 4:16 am

Pritchard would be a great player to poach but I agree Boston isn't letting him go cheaply, they need as many low cost contributors as they can. I wouldn't be surprised if the asking cost is Camara or something.
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Re: Realistic Wish List??? 

Post#83 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Wed Jul 9, 2025 6:21 am

That said, I'm one to talk. I threw out Trey as my first choice and he would cost an arm and leg more.
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Post#84 » by Village Idiot » Wed Jul 9, 2025 7:01 am

Kuminga for the MLE is always an option. The challenge is that he wants to be the man but isn´t good enough. Not a smart enough player in terms of positioning and movement on offense and team defense though which negate some of his athleticism. Fits the Demi mold though in terms of buying low, assuming the Warriors don´t match.
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Post#85 » by Butter » Wed Jul 9, 2025 11:20 am

DeBlazerRiddem wrote:Pritchard would be a great player to poach but I agree Boston isn't letting him go cheaply, they need as many low cost contributors as they can. I wouldn't be surprised if the asking cost is Camara or something.


Valid, but Pritchard provides an interesting model to look for. Here's a question, are there any bench players whos 48 min projection suggest they could become Pritchard-like?
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Post#86 » by Butter » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:36 pm

GEE wrote:I explained why very clearly I thought... Pritchard, like several others we saw in this years' playoffs, is a pure PG like Hali and TJ are for the Pacers. Jrue is quite far from a pure PG.... thus, a reason to perhaps talk about a possible Pritchard addition. Also, It's ON TOPIC.

Unless the plan is for Deni to be the full-time Point(forward) and handle the rock like Tatum does (which I'm betting he won't), OR... if one thinks that Scoot is at all reliable (and I don't currently), I think he'd be a great addition.

I just would prefer to see, as I'd said, Scoot/Pritchard at PG, instead of the common vibe of Jrue/Scoot.

Steve Blake 2.0 :nod:


From a "wish list" perspective, a 3rd PG who can initiate AND shoot would be ideal. I can see a couple of approaches:

1) a young "Pritchard-like" prospect to develop behind Scoot
2) a vet like Malcolm Brogdon to play spot mins as needed
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Post#87 » by Butter » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:37 pm

DeBlazerRiddem wrote:That said, I'm one to talk. I threw out Trey as my first choice and he would cost an arm and leg more.


Personally, I would be opposed to paying an arm and a leg IF it resulted in a clear upgrade / budding superstar
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Post#88 » by Butter » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:44 pm

I have no idea who this person is, but there are some interesting names in here. Could one of these folks could be the next "Deni" type bargain?

https://www.reddit.com/r/nbadiscussion/comments/1g4p9tv/breakout_role_players_2025/


Breakout role players 2025
Some thoughts on players who I predict will breakout. There's levels to role players but I'm talking about early, early breakouts who are starting to break 20 minutes per game. Guys were were real end of the bench guys who are given an opportunity because they earned it. I consider guys like Deuce McBride and Keon Ellis "half breakouts" cuz they already played big roles on their teams last year. Those guys are gonna be real dudes on the scouting reports this upcoming season before big games.

Julian Strawther. Nuggets need shooting and he brings it. I think he will work well with Westbrook and Saric off the bench to provide some much needed spacing. He slots well into the starting lineup depending on if they need some additional fire power as well.

Jamal Cain. Very good two way 6'7 wing on the Pelicans. I liked him on the Heat but he kind of had a down year and I'm hoping he regains his form. I think he's gonna play a key role in keeping the Pelicans defense afloat.

Max Christie. Lakers two way 3-D guard. I don't think the shooting was what kept him off the floor last season, but more so him just looking kind of lost on offense in general and not knowing where to be/when to cut. Still a lot of rookie mistakes last season that I'm hoping he will clean up this upcoming year. But shows potential as an on ball defender and shooter. To be honest he's not the kind of hard nosed chase-guys-around-screens type of defender that Jalen Suggs or KCP are- he's more closer to Klay Thompson whos about containing attempts to drive with his feet and using his length to bother shot attempts.

Kenneth Lofton Jr. Talented forward scorer who got his chance on the Grizzlies last year. I don't like him having to fight for minutes on the Bulls but if he has to make a way I think he will. He's just a physical Prescence on the court just cuz his bullyball size. He's like mini Zion and I think he could be a valuable piece for the right team who invests in him.

Da'Ron Sharpe. Already showed signs of being decent last year behind Claxton and I think he will continue the improvement. Athletic center who is quite a good defender but still needs a lot of work on offense.

Jalen Wilson. 6'8 2 way forward. Seems to be quite a common find on the Nets. I think he's poised to have a good sophomore year as he continues his shooting and defensive additions. Had a phenomenal summer league being on the 1st team awards I believe and so far in Summer league + Preseason he's averaging 18.6/4 on 47FG% and 52 3pt%. I think the shooting will cool off but he will be still a really good player for the Nets.

Orlando Robinson. Yes I believe. I've believed all along. Orlando has all the tools athleticallly to be good and he has the shooting and raw rebounding. Hes just a tad undersized physically. I think coaches are turned off by his dumb mistakes and kind of betrays his below average BBIQ but I think he's a perfectly good backup or 3rd string center in the league playing 15 minutes per game for a team. Like I don't think he's worse than Nick Richards by much if at all.

Jordan Miller. 6'5 guard on clippers who had a great summer league and preseason so far averaging 18ppg on 54FG% and 54 3pt%. He will cool down but he packs such a scoring threat from all places on the floor. Needs to work on the defense and passing but I think he's enough of a shooting threat to be worth giving 15 minutes to
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Re: Realistic Wish List??? 

Post#89 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Jul 9, 2025 2:26 pm

DeBlazerRiddem wrote:Pritchard would be a great player to poach but I agree Boston isn't letting him go cheaply, they need as many low cost contributors as they can. I wouldn't be surprised if the asking cost is Camara or something.


The only 2 deals that match salary and would interest Boston in the least would be - Scoot for Pritchard OR Camara + Murray for Pritchard.

Also, Pritchard is not a true PG. Not sure where this idea came from. His AST% is under 18% for his career. Deni is was at about 20% last season.

Hali has a career AST% of a whopping 38% and TJ is at 34%.

Pritchard is a shooter who can play secondary ballhandler.
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Post#90 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Wed Jul 9, 2025 5:38 pm

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GEE wrote:I explained why very clearly I thought... Pritchard, like several others we saw in this years' playoffs, is a pure PG like Hali and TJ are for the Pacers. Jrue is quite far from a pure PG.... thus, a reason to perhaps talk about a possible Pritchard addition. Also, It's ON TOPIC.

Unless the plan is for Deni to be the full-time Point(forward) and handle the rock like Tatum does (which I'm betting he won't), OR... if one thinks that Scoot is at all reliable (and I don't currently), I think he'd be a great addition.

I just would prefer to see, as I'd said, Scoot/Pritchard at PG, instead of the common vibe of Jrue/Scoot.

Steve Blake 2.0 :nod:


From a "wish list" perspective, a 3rd PG who can initiate AND shoot would be ideal. I can see a couple of approaches:

1) a young "Pritchard-like" prospect to develop behind Scoot
2) a vet like Malcolm Brogdon to play spot mins as needed


Scottie Pippen Jr. was my pick for low-cost backup PG, maybe part of that is the name recognition lol. Although if I was Memphis I would see him as a good backup to Morant, he can come in and give a defensive look and be the POA defender that teams need these days so might also cost more than it is worth to acquire (that's the issue with any realistic target, teams might love that guy and not give him cheap and then the cost/benefit analysis becomes too heavy to bear).

Small but a very good defender, just around 40% from 3. A little more turn-over prone than Pritchard but also has a significantly higher assist%.
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Post#91 » by zzaj » Wed Jul 9, 2025 6:15 pm

Mike Richmond mentioned two good options in his most recent POD. He also mentioned these are NOT the types of players the Blazers seem to target. I especially like MM as a fit.

Amir Coffey
Monte Morris

Both can shoot the 3 and provide backup depth at a position. Not sure Amir is quite in his 3rd place years yet, but Monte probably is. Monte will play mistake free, low TO basketball and shoot a high % from 3 on low volume. I also expect some games where Jrue is injured (I still think the flag on his physical is concerning) and he tends to miss 15-20 games a year. Plus Scoot hasn't been without injury concerns.

If I was to add a realistic depth piece, it'd be Monte Morris.

I was also a little bit surprised that Jabari Walker signed with PHI on a two-way deal. I thought he would have fetched something fully guaranteed somewhere...
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Post#92 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Jul 9, 2025 6:33 pm

zzaj wrote:Mike Richmond mentioned two good options in his most recent POD. He also mentioned these are NOT the types of players the Blazers seem to target. I especially like MM as a fit.

Amir Coffey
Monte Morris

Both can shoot the 3 and provide backup depth at a position. Not sure Amir is quite in his 3rd place years yet, but Monte probably is. Monte will play mistake free, low TO basketball and shoot a high % from 3 on low volume. I also expect some games where Jrue is injured (I still think the flag on his physical is concerning) and he tends to miss 15-20 games a year. Plus Scoot hasn't been without injury concerns.

If I was to add a realistic depth piece, it'd be Monte Morris.

I was also a little bit surprised that Jabari Walker signed with PHI on a two-way deal. I thought he would have fetched something fully guaranteed somewhere...


I assume Monte is looking for at least a clear backup role but may be wrong. I sorta expect him in DEN for the VM if they dont resign Russ (I think DEN is in a holding pattern right now until they figure out the Jonas situation).

Jordan McLaughlin fits well on paper. High character, plus defender, adapted to a 3rd string role. Like him as a cheap 3rd string PG option.

Elfrid Payton would be the idea fit if he could shoot even just below average. Can guard PG and SG, fits the defensive identity, hustles, good passer. But just so bad at shooting you cant roster him.

Delon Wright is another name but as with Monte - I presume he wants at least a chance to be a consistent rotation guy still.
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Post#93 » by oldfishermen » Wed Jul 9, 2025 6:51 pm

Bucks sign FA Ryan Rollins for 3 yr, $12m

Gut says this kid is a very good signing.
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Post#94 » by Butter » Wed Jul 9, 2025 9:00 pm

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Butter wrote:
GEE wrote:I explained why very clearly I thought... Pritchard, like several others we saw in this years' playoffs, is a pure PG like Hali and TJ are for the Pacers. Jrue is quite far from a pure PG.... thus, a reason to perhaps talk about a possible Pritchard addition. Also, It's ON TOPIC.

Unless the plan is for Deni to be the full-time Point(forward) and handle the rock like Tatum does (which I'm betting he won't), OR... if one thinks that Scoot is at all reliable (and I don't currently), I think he'd be a great addition.

I just would prefer to see, as I'd said, Scoot/Pritchard at PG, instead of the common vibe of Jrue/Scoot.

Steve Blake 2.0 :nod:


From a "wish list" perspective, a 3rd PG who can initiate AND shoot would be ideal. I can see a couple of approaches:

1) a young "Pritchard-like" prospect to develop behind Scoot
2) a vet like Malcolm Brogdon to play spot mins as needed


Scottie Pippen Jr. was my pick for low-cost backup PG, maybe part of that is the name recognition lol. Although if I was Memphis I would see him as a good backup to Morant, he can come in and give a defensive look and be the POA defender that teams need these days so might also cost more than it is worth to acquire (that's the issue with any realistic target, teams might love that guy and not give him cheap and then the cost/benefit analysis becomes too heavy to bear).

Small but a very good defender, just around 40% from 3. A little more turn-over prone than Pritchard but also has a significantly higher assist%.


I am with you 100%. I really wanted SP Jr coming out of the draft.
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Post#95 » by zzaj » Wed Jul 9, 2025 9:49 pm

Butter wrote:
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Butter wrote:
From a "wish list" perspective, a 3rd PG who can initiate AND shoot would be ideal. I can see a couple of approaches:

1) a young "Pritchard-like" prospect to develop behind Scoot
2) a vet like Malcolm Brogdon to play spot mins as needed


Scottie Pippen Jr. was my pick for low-cost backup PG, maybe part of that is the name recognition lol. Although if I was Memphis I would see him as a good backup to Morant, he can come in and give a defensive look and be the POA defender that teams need these days so might also cost more than it is worth to acquire (that's the issue with any realistic target, teams might love that guy and not give him cheap and then the cost/benefit analysis becomes too heavy to bear).

Small but a very good defender, just around 40% from 3. A little more turn-over prone than Pritchard but also has a significantly higher assist%.


I am with you 100%. I really wanted SP Jr coming out of the draft.


I'll 3rd that...I watched a lot of Vandy basketball that year and he was on my radar pretty strongly pre-draft in 2022. I was SHOCKED that he didn't go in the second round even as a 21 year old junior.

He certainly has his faults as a passer, but he's an incredible defender and timely big shot maker, with a very advanced feel for the game. He'd be a very good option, but I think he'd want more PT than the Blazers will be able to offer. Plus at roughly 2.4M/season he's worth WAY more to Memphis than what it'd be worth for them in a trade.
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Post#96 » by GEE » Thu Jul 10, 2025 3:07 am

Just want to wish BIG for a sec: The Greak Freak decides he wants out of Milwaukee and their organization pushes GAs camp to look here because we own so many of their assets and they'd like them back. Dreaming and not "Realisticly Wishing":

Portland trades: Grant / RWIII / Scoot / Thybulle / All of the Bucks Picks and Swaps
Boston trades: Simons / Pritchard
Milwaukee trades: Antetokounmpo

Blazers get: Pritchard / Antetokounmpo
Celtics get: RWIII / Thybulle / Scoot
Bucks get: Grant / Simons / Returned all Picks and Swaps / Plus whatever other future picks we need to add

8-MAN
Jrue / Pritchard
Sharpe
Deni / Camara
Giannis
Kling-Kong / YangBang

Bench
Rupert, Cissoko, Murray, Reath

MLE? Vet Min?
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Post#97 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Jul 10, 2025 4:04 am

GEE wrote:Just want to wish BIG for a sec: The Greak Freak decides he wants out of Milwaukee and their organization pushes GAs camp to look here because we own so many of their assets and they'd like them back. Dreaming and not "Realisticly Wishing":

Portland trades: Grant / RWIII / Scoot / Thybulle / All of the Bucks Picks and Swaps
Boston trades: Simons / Pritchard
Milwaukee trades: Antetokounmpo

Blazers get: Pritchard / Antetokounmpo
Celtics get: RWIII / Thybulle / Scoot
Bucks get: Grant / Simons / Returned all Picks and Swaps / Plus whatever other future picks we need to add

8-MAN
Jrue / Pritchard
Sharpe
Deni / Camara
Giannis
Kling-Kong / YangBang

Bench
Rupert, Cissoko, Murray, Reath

MLE? Vet Min?


Thats a really poor return for Giannis. No young player to hang their hat on. Grant to muck up the cap sheet. Simons is nothing to a rebuilding team.

HOU would blow that out of the water (Sengun + Reed + Eason or Jabari + all the PHX FRP + some of their own FRP). As would dozens of other teams.
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Post#98 » by DaVoiceMaster » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:23 am

Somewhere in one of these threads I proposed RW3, Thybulle, Scoot, Sharpe, and the Bucks picks and swaps for Giannis. I also suggested adding Lillard. Perhaps he comes back before the playoffs.
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Post#99 » by DC_Melo » Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:33 pm

Lots of people talking about Giannis… I don’t see any path to him being a Blazer. For one, we don’t have the assets. We could throw every positively valued asset in our team’s name at him, and there are still several teams that could do better without sacrificing as much.

2… If we magically somehow cleared that impassable hurdle, giving Milwaukee a haul for Giannis would cripple the value of our picks they still owe us (assuming we manage to keep those) since our highest valued assets are young players like Deni/Camara/Sharpe that would help them win some games

3… What would be the point? Mortgage our future prospects and draft capital for an aging superstar that has a very public desire to play for a contender… Giannis would leave or turn a small injury into a season length one first chance he got
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Post#100 » by Pattycakes » Thu Jul 10, 2025 4:40 pm

I’d be very very surprised if we don’t acquire Kispert. Seems like a perfect scenario unless WAS is mad we stole Deni already.
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