UTA/MIL/BOS: Simons, Kuzma, picks

[babyjax13]

BOS trades: Anfernee Simons, 2026 BOS 1st (1-10, 1-8, unprotected)
in: fake 2nd
Boston dumps Simons' deal.

MIL trades: Kyle Kuzma, Tyler Smith, 2030 MIL 1st (swap, UTA receives higher of UTA/MIL, Milwaukee receives lower, top-1 protected), 2026 UTA 2nd
in: Anfernee Simons
Milwaukee swaps Kuzma for a decent fitting piece next to Giannis.

UTA trades: fake 2nd
in: Kyle Kuzma, Tyler Smith, 2026 BOS 1st (1-10, 1-8, unprotected), 2030 MIL 1st (swap, UTA receives higher of UTA/MIL, Milwaukee receives lower, top-1 protected), 2026 UTA 2nd
Utah uses their TPE to get a first round pick in 2026, their 2nd back in 2026, and a high-upside swing in 2030 when they should be on the ascent.

[djFan71]

BOS trades: Anfernee Simons, 2026 BOS 1st (1-10, 1-8, unprotected)
in: fake 2nd
Boston dumps Simons' deal.

MIL trades: Kyle Kuzma, Tyler Smith, 2030 MIL 1st (swap, UTA receives higher of UTA/MIL, Milwaukee receives lower, top-1 protected), 2026 UTA 2nd
in: Anfernee Simons
Milwaukee swaps Kuzma for a decent fitting piece next to Giannis.

UTA trades: fake 2nd
in: Kyle Kuzma, Tyler Smith, 2026 BOS 1st (1-10, 1-8, unprotected), 2030 MIL 1st (swap, UTA receives higher of UTA/MIL, Milwaukee receives lower, top-1 protected), 2026 UTA 2nd
Utah uses their TPE to get a first round pick in 2026, their 2nd back in 2026, and a high-upside swing in 2030 when they should be on the ascent.

What would UTA want to send to BOS to not require the pick? SloMo and ????

[jayjaysee]

I think Milwaukee owes valued but can’t see them further worsening the distant picks. Already owe a swap to Portland that year though, so no need for top 1 protection.. Maybe since the pick already has one layer of swap, Milwaukee would be willing to do it though

Boston fans didn’t want to give up a first when it also included dumping Niang and getting Tyler Smith.. so don’t think the OP will work for Boston.

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[hugepatsfan]

Brad Stevens came out yesterday and basically said that they'd consider ducking the tax but ownership told them it's not worth it to give up assets and that resetting repeater rates aren't a priority over having a competitive team when Tatum is back.

I also think the value here is off. MIL is shedding one year of Kuzma for a swap and 2nds. BOS is shedding one year of Simons for a pick that seems likely to convert in the teens. Why does one year of Simons cost so significantly more than one year of Kuzma to dump? I think the cost needs to be split more evenly between those teams.

[jayjaysee]

BOS trades: Anfernee Simons, 2026 BOS 1st (1-10, 1-8, unprotected)
in: fake 2nd
Boston dumps Simons' deal.

MIL trades: Kyle Kuzma, Tyler Smith, 2030 MIL 1st (swap, UTA receives higher of UTA/MIL, Milwaukee receives lower, top-1 protected), 2026 UTA 2nd
in: Anfernee Simons
Milwaukee swaps Kuzma for a decent fitting piece next to Giannis.

UTA trades: fake 2nd
in: Kyle Kuzma, Tyler Smith, 2026 BOS 1st (1-10, 1-8, unprotected), 2030 MIL 1st (swap, UTA receives higher of UTA/MIL, Milwaukee receives lower, top-1 protected), 2026 UTA 2nd
Utah uses their TPE to get a first round pick in 2026, their 2nd back in 2026, and a high-upside swing in 2030 when they should be on the ascent.

What would UTA want to send to BOS to not require the pick? SloMo and ????

Think at that point you need to find a different third team that values Simons enough to pay Utah for Boston. Maybe there’s a team that sends a 10-15 mil player to Boston and a 10-15 mil player to Utah.

I just don’t think that team exists.

Milwaukee would be the most desperate, but they shouldn’t use their last first to dump Kuzma. Simons isn’t good enough for that.

Dallas should be desperate, but they think they’re fine going big and hoping it works out..

[babyjax13]

BOS trades: Anfernee Simons, 2026 BOS 1st (1-10, 1-8, unprotected)
in: fake 2nd
Boston dumps Simons' deal.

MIL trades: Kyle Kuzma, Tyler Smith, 2030 MIL 1st (swap, UTA receives higher of UTA/MIL, Milwaukee receives lower, top-1 protected), 2026 UTA 2nd
in: Anfernee Simons
Milwaukee swaps Kuzma for a decent fitting piece next to Giannis.

UTA trades: fake 2nd
in: Kyle Kuzma, Tyler Smith, 2026 BOS 1st (1-10, 1-8, unprotected), 2030 MIL 1st (swap, UTA receives higher of UTA/MIL, Milwaukee receives lower, top-1 protected), 2026 UTA 2nd
Utah uses their TPE to get a first round pick in 2026, their 2nd back in 2026, and a high-upside swing in 2030 when they should be on the ascent.

What would UTA want to send to BOS to not require the pick? SloMo and ????

We would not be interested.

[redslastlaugh]

At the presser yesterday, Brad Stevens said Boston isnt interested in using draft assets to clear money.
Dont think Boston would be interested in this 3-teamer. If Boston trades Niang and/or Hauser i wouldnt be shocked if they'd take Kuzma from Milwaukee for some of the Bucks out yr pick value...

BOS trades: Anfernee Simons, 2026 BOS 1st (1-10, 1-8, unprotected)
in: fake 2nd
Boston dumps Simons' deal.

[babyjax13]

Brad Stevens came out yesterday and basically said that they'd consider ducking the tax but ownership told them it's not worth it to give up assets and that resetting repeater rates aren't a priority over having a competitive team when Tatum is back.

I also think the value here is off. MIL is shedding one year of Kuzma for a swap and 2nds. BOS is shedding one year of Simons for a pick that seems likely to convert in the teens. Why does one year of Simons cost so significantly more than one year of Kuzma to dump? I think the cost needs to be split more evenly between those teams.

I think that swap has way more upside. Milwaukee has no assets and Giannis will be old then.

[djFan71]

BOS trades: Anfernee Simons, 2026 BOS 1st (1-10, 1-8, unprotected)
in: fake 2nd
Boston dumps Simons' deal.

MIL trades: Kyle Kuzma, Tyler Smith, 2030 MIL 1st (swap, UTA receives higher of UTA/MIL, Milwaukee receives lower, top-1 protected), 2026 UTA 2nd
in: Anfernee Simons
Milwaukee swaps Kuzma for a decent fitting piece next to Giannis.

UTA trades: fake 2nd
in: Kyle Kuzma, Tyler Smith, 2026 BOS 1st (1-10, 1-8, unprotected), 2030 MIL 1st (swap, UTA receives higher of UTA/MIL, Milwaukee receives lower, top-1 protected), 2026 UTA 2nd
Utah uses their TPE to get a first round pick in 2026, their 2nd back in 2026, and a high-upside swing in 2030 when they should be on the ascent.

What would UTA want to send to BOS to not require the pick? SloMo and ????

Think at that point you need to find a different third team that values Simons enough to pay Utah for Boston. Maybe there’s a team that sends a 10-15 mil player to Boston and a 10-15 mil player to Utah.

I just don’t think that team exists.

Milwaukee would be the most desperate, but they shouldn’t use their last first to dump Kuzma. Simons isn’t good enough for that.

Dallas should be desperate, but they think they’re fine going big and hoping it works out..

Yeah, agreed on all that. It's so close to thinking you can work something out with these teams, but it just doesn't ever really make sense for all sides. Mainly since MIL doesn't have the right level of asset to use as a sweetener.

Might have to look in the other direction - what player IS worth MIL sending their first for that's reasonably available. And can they take Simons+ back as part of that deal. And is there stuff left to dump (somewhat cheaply) to UTA.

[babyjax13]

I think Milwaukee owes valued but can’t see them further worsening the distant picks. Already owe a swap to Portland that year though, so no need for top 1 protection.. Maybe since the pick already has one layer of swap, Milwaukee would be willing to do it though

Boston fans didn’t want to give up a first when it also included dumping Niang and getting Tyler Smith.. so don’t think the OP will work for Boston.

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Ah, realgm doesn't show that swap. I do not think two layers of swaps is enough value to dump Kuzma. This needs a different team to replace the Bucks if the foundation were reasonable for Boston.