Official Brandon Ingram Thread

[tsherkin]

I mean I guess you could also look it from a standpoint of "someone has to shoot some mid rangers", and for us that is gonna be a lot of Ingram.

Hopefully we don't spam bad mid range looks early in the clock, but if Ingram is our bail out option he is better at that than most of the NBA.

With him, I will be happy if he's at about 20/5/5 on league-average efficiency and plays 60+ games.

I feel like that seems obvious, but sometimes the nature of these conversations focuses on negatives or pessimism or whatever and certain opinions become unclear.

I don't expect Ingram to play as well as he did in 2021, particularly if we're getting him to take a lot of middies and he isn't getting all the way to the rim a ton. But that'd be fine, because he's a good passer and he moves the defense and it's still a step up from last year... and honestly, because he isn't a superstar.

He's KD from Wish, and that's a pretty good deal for us whenever he's healthy. I think he will exert a palpable positive influence on our offense with his ability to attack from a live dribble and the threat of his shooting from all over the floor, as well as his passing.

[YogurtProducer]

I mean I guess you could also look it from a standpoint of "someone has to shoot some mid rangers", and for us that is gonna be a lot of Ingram.

Hopefully we don't spam bad mid range looks early in the clock, but if Ingram is our bail out option he is better at that than most of the NBA.

With him, I will be happy if he's at about 20/5/5 on league-average efficiency and plays 60+ games.

I feel like that seems obvious, but sometimes the nature of these conversations focuses on negatives or pessimism or whatever and certain opinions become unclear.

I don't expect Ingram to play as well as he did in 2021, particularly if we're getting him to take a lot of middies and he isn't getting all the way to the rim a ton. But that'd be fine, because he's a good passer and he moves the defense and it's still a step up from last year... and honestly, because he isn't a superstar.

He's KD from Wish, and that's a pretty good deal for us whenever he's healthy. I think he will exert a palpable positive influence on our offense with his ability to attack from a live dribble and the threat of his shooting from all over the floor, as well as his passing.

My main hope if he has the post-NO surge.

I just truly believe that place is a dumpster fire and pretty much anyone who leaves is for the better

[tsherkin]

My main hope if he has the post-NO surge.

I just truly believe that place is a dumpster fire and pretty much anyone who leaves is for the better

I certainly won't complain if that's the case, that's for sure. xD

[Scase]

There is zero reason for them to not show him working out from a PR perspective, they were publicly stating during the season that he wasn't walking on it, never performed any contact practices or drills etc. , so no he couldn't have come back in feb.

So "nothing," was the answer. You have nothing but inference.

It's possible you're right, but it's possible that they just haven't bothered because it's the offseason and they have until the preseason at least before it actually matters. Or training camp, I guess, but still.

This isn't something we should spin up over at this time, it's just needless negativity without substance.

Inference didn't seem to stop 90% of the Masai is fired thread from blaming racism, at least this has legs, no pun intended. Could be nothing, but for a guy chronically injured, it at least isn't baseless.

[tsherkin]

Inference didn't seem to stop 90% of the Masai is fired thread from blaming racism, at least this has legs, no pun intended. Could be nothing, but for a guy chronically injured, it at least isn't baseless.

Irrelevant to this discussion. And also addressed at the time by moderator action, so a fairly poor example.

It is baseless. He's hardly the only player who doesn't Tweet his entire existence out for everyone to see. Or Instagram, or whatever the kids are using these days. You're trying, and trying really REALLY hard, to just sink your teeth into something negative, and it comes out across the breadth of your posting content on this board, Scase.

Find a new gimmick, please.

[Duffman100]

There is zero reason for them to not show him working out from a PR perspective, they were publicly stating during the season that he wasn't walking on it, never performed any contact practices or drills etc. , so no he couldn't have come back in feb.

So "nothing," was the answer. You have nothing but inference.

It's possible you're right, but it's possible that they just haven't bothered because it's the offseason and they have until the preseason at least before it actually matters. Or training camp, I guess, but still.

This isn't something we should spin up over at this time, it's just needless negativity without substance.

Inference didn't seem to stop 90% of the Masai is fired thread from blaming racism, at least this has legs, no pun intended. Could be nothing, but for a guy chronically injured, it at least isn't baseless.

You're at multiple moderators who have warned you for constant negativity and countless posters who have brought it up. At this point I have to consider this trolling.

[dTox]

No Hali next year for the Pacers, and they just let Turner walk with nothing in return, that 2026 draft pick we traded for BI is starting to look more and more enticing. This may not end well

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you have to understand, that if raps didn't trade that 2026 pick, then pacers have zero incentive to tank next year

Maybe I am reading your post wrong, but why would the Pacers care whether we have the pick or New Orleans has it? It's not their pick regardless, I don't think they intentionally tanked, one player lost due to injury, the other they let walk because of a cheapskate owner.

[RaptorPride]

No Hali next year for the Pacers, and they just let Turner walk with nothing in return, that 2026 draft pick we traded for BI is starting to look more and more enticing. This may not end well

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you have to understand, that if raps didn't trade that 2026 pick, then pacers have zero incentive to tank next year

Maybe I am reading your post wrong, but why would the Pacers care whether we have the pick or New Orleans has it? It's not their pick regardless, I don't think they intentionally tanked, one player lost due to injury, the other they let walk because of a cheapskate owner.

I think if they didn't get the pick back aka we kept it or Pelicans said no when they did the trade. They probably do offer Turner a better deal and keep him even with the Hali injury.

[dTox]

No Hali next year for the Pacers, and they just let Turner walk with nothing in return, that 2026 draft pick we traded for BI is starting to look more and more enticing. This may not end well

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It was a good trade. Even if the Pacers end up late lottery........meh.

I think a healthy Ingram makes this a good trade, but I just have my doubts about this trade given all the risks involved: risks in Ingram re-injury, risk in the Pacers' star players getting injured (pick turning out to be a top 6-8), the latter already came mostly true, if BI is injured yet again this year (and Pacers end up in the lotto), this trade would turn out to be a disaster. A rebuilding team that lost out on two lottery picks (for Jakob, and now BI) would make this a brutal situation moving forward. We've already canned the guy who was in charge of the FO, so I'm hoping these moves were not "Bobby decisions".

With that said, yes, a healthy BI would make this a good trade for us.

[ill-Will03]

Now we’re getting upset at the PR team for not showing him working out in the offseason? Bruh get a grip lol

[LoveMyRaps]

Now we’re getting upset at the PR team for not showing him working out in the offseason? Bruh get a grip lol

PR team heard us.

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[dballislife]

people are gonna be surprised how good a healthy ingram is, he just needs to stay healthy, please stay relatively healthy ingram

[tsherkin]

people are gonna be surprised how good a healthy ingram is, he just needs to stay healthy, please stay relatively healthy ingram

If he's any kind of healthy, he's going to be really nice for us, for sure.

[ArthurVandelay]

people are gonna be surprised how good a healthy ingram is, he just needs to stay healthy, please stay relatively healthy ingram

I’m not going to do the whole homer ra-ra for Raptors medical staff. Not going to go all red shoe string.

But I am going to remind how absolutely awful, cheap, and lacking the Pelicans organization is for those “extras.”

BI gonna be an all-star this season and have a career year. It’s going to be awesome.

[mtcan]

There is zero reason for them to not show him working out from a PR perspective, they were publicly stating during the season that he wasn't walking on it, never performed any contact practices or drills etc. , so no he couldn't have come back in feb.

So "nothing," was the answer. You have nothing but inference.

It's possible you're right, but it's possible that they just haven't bothered because it's the offseason and they have until the preseason at least before it actually matters. Or training camp, I guess, but still.

This isn't something we should spin up over at this time, it's just needless negativity without substance.

Inference didn't seem to stop 90% of the Masai is fired thread from blaming racism, at least this has legs, no pun intended. Could be nothing, but for a guy chronically injured, it at least isn't baseless.

Go follow a different team or sport. It isn't healthy to spend time being so negative about anything. Hate watching and constantly **** posting about a particular person or team is just not time well spent. Life is short. Go find something you enjoy following or watching.

[LoveMyRaps]

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[junot111]

Ingram seems to have become underrated since becoming a raptor. Health concerns aside, he's the best isolation scorer we've had since kawhi (better than Pascal based on my eye test) which we desperately needed. I'm excited to finally see someone that can get buckets in crunch time again

[tsherkin]

Ingram seems to have become underrated since becoming a raptor. Health concerns aside, he's the best isolation scorer we've had since kawhi (better than Pascal based on my eye test) which we desperately needed. I'm excited to finally see someone that can get buckets in crunch time again

Is he underrated? I think most people's primary concern with him is that he may or may not be able to play games for us... which is quite accurate.

But if he IS healthy, I think everyone acknowledges that he will be one of the best offensive players we've ever had on our roster who wasn't aged out. His skillset is impressive, and what he's accomplished while healthy has been quite good.

He's mostly been a Demar-level scorer outside of 2020, which is HUGE for us right now. And unlike Demar, he can shoot the 3, which adds a layer to his game which DDR was always missing for us.

I'm quite excited to see him play.

[junot111]

Ingram seems to have become underrated since becoming a raptor. Health concerns aside, he's the best isolation scorer we've had since kawhi (better than Pascal based on my eye test) which we desperately needed. I'm excited to finally see someone that can get buckets in crunch time again

Is he underrated? I think most people's primary concern with him is that he may or may not be able to play games for us... which is quite accurate.

But if he IS healthy, I think everyone acknowledges that he will be one of the best offensive players we've ever had on our roster who wasn't aged out. His skillset is impressive, and what he's accomplished while healthy has been quite good.

He's mostly been a Demar-level scorer outside of 2020, which is HUGE for us right now. And unlike Demar, he can shoot the 3, which adds a layer to his game which DDR was always missing for us.

I'm quite excited to see him play.

After the Simmons/russilo hot takes and seeing the reactions on the general board, he has been underrated outside of this fan base. Many people have scoffed at his contract and dismissed the all star upside, it doesn't seem to just be about health

[tsherkin]

After the Simmons/russilo hot takes and seeing the reactions on the general board, he has been underrated outside of this fan base. Many people have scoffed at his contract and dismissed the all star upside, it doesn't seem to just be about health

TBF, people saw 18 games of him last year, and he's been laboring on the Pels, who have not been good. External opinion is probably dim over him for those reasons more so than anything to do with his game.

But whatever. Screw them. We just need him to be moderately healthy for us, and play to the level he's managed the past decade.