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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

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Fury wrote:Last 3 years he’s shot at least 40% on corner 3s. We missed that in the playoffs.

Cam Payne missed those in the playoffs, too.
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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

Post#242 » by JayTWill » Wed Jul 9, 2025 9:24 pm

I wasn't a big fan of the Clarkson addition but for the people that did like the pick up how many minutes do people expect him to get? I assume Brunson will get 30-35 minutes and not sure you can play a poor defensive backcourt of Brunson and Clarkson together especially with some other poor defenders on the court. I see some people talking about him getting 20-25 minutes per game which is a much bigger role than Payne had when the team was healthy.
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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

Post#243 » by NYKnickerbocker » Wed Jul 9, 2025 9:32 pm

I think he’ll fit fine. He played his role well on the competitive Jazz teams built around Spida and Rudy. Don’t think he’ll play the same as he was with the tanking Jazz
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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

Post#244 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jul 9, 2025 9:45 pm

JayTWill wrote:I wasn't a big fan of the Clarkson addition but for the people that did like the pick up how many minutes do people expect him to get? I assume Brunson will get 30-35 minutes and not sure you can play a poor defensive backcourt of Brunson and Clarkson together especially with some other poor defenders on the court. I see some people talking about him getting 20-25 minutes per game which is a much bigger role than Payne had when the team was healthy.


13-18?

Is he even the backup PG? Starting 5 avgs 32 mpg. Whoever comes off the bench should split the remaining 80 minutes. That's how I see it. Numbers may fluctuate but, you can go ten deep at 16mpg avgs if you have the talent to run ten guys.

Deuce/Clarkson/Hart/Yabu as a bench getting 20mpg? Huk as needed? The kids have to fight for their minutes if they want them/deserve them. Flip Mitch for one of Hart/Deuce?

There's ways to get everyone enough minutes and not have to overlap weak lineups. Going 9-10 deep while doing it. Occasionally giving kids opportunity when logical. It all depends on the roles everyone is needed to play and how healthy we can stay. We still have another two spots to fill.
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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

Post#245 » by robillionaire » Wed Jul 9, 2025 9:54 pm

JayTWill wrote:I wasn't a big fan of the Clarkson addition but for the people that did like the pick up how many minutes do people expect him to get? I assume Brunson will get 30-35 minutes and not sure you can play a poor defensive backcourt of Brunson and Clarkson together especially with some other poor defenders on the court. I see some people talking about him getting 20-25 minutes per game which is a much bigger role than Payne had when the team was healthy.


I was going to say maybe 15-20 depending and you could play him and Brunson a bit here or there just not for very long stretches

He is much better than Payne I’d consider him our designated 6th man at this point
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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

Post#246 » by Polk377 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:27 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
JayTWill wrote:I wasn't a big fan of the Clarkson addition but for the people that did like the pick up how many minutes do people expect him to get? I assume Brunson will get 30-35 minutes and not sure you can play a poor defensive backcourt of Brunson and Clarkson together especially with some other poor defenders on the court. I see some people talking about him getting 20-25 minutes per game which is a much bigger role than Payne had when the team was healthy.


13-18?

Is he even the backup PG? Starting 5 avgs 32 mpg. Whoever comes off the bench should split the remaining 80 minutes. That's how I see it. Numbers may fluctuate but, you can go ten deep at 16mpg avgs if you have the talent to run ten guys.

Deuce/Clarkson/Hart/Yabu as a bench getting 20mpg? Huk as needed? The kids have to fight for their minutes if they want them/deserve them. Flip Mitch for one of Hart/Deuce?

There's ways to get everyone enough minutes and not have to overlap weak lineups. Going 9-10 deep while doing it. Occasionally giving kids opportunity when logical. It all depends on the roles everyone is needed to play and how healthy we can stay. We still have another two spots to fill.

Come on now. They did not bring Clarkson here and he did not sign here to play 15 mins or less per game. He will see no less than 20-25 mpg. This season is going to be more fast paced and offensive focused than what we saw with Thibs. He is a long combo guard that can play next to JB, Deuce, Mikal and Kolek in different lineups.
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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

Post#247 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:34 am

Polk377 wrote:
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JayTWill wrote:I wasn't a big fan of the Clarkson addition but for the people that did like the pick up how many minutes do people expect him to get? I assume Brunson will get 30-35 minutes and not sure you can play a poor defensive backcourt of Brunson and Clarkson together especially with some other poor defenders on the court. I see some people talking about him getting 20-25 minutes per game which is a much bigger role than Payne had when the team was healthy.


13-18?

Is he even the backup PG? Starting 5 avgs 32 mpg. Whoever comes off the bench should split the remaining 80 minutes. That's how I see it. Numbers may fluctuate but, you can go ten deep at 16mpg avgs if you have the talent to run ten guys.

Deuce/Clarkson/Hart/Yabu as a bench getting 20mpg? Huk as needed? The kids have to fight for their minutes if they want them/deserve them. Flip Mitch for one of Hart/Deuce?

There's ways to get everyone enough minutes and not have to overlap weak lineups. Going 9-10 deep while doing it. Occasionally giving kids opportunity when logical. It all depends on the roles everyone is needed to play and how healthy we can stay. We still have another two spots to fill.

Come on now. They did not bring Clarkson here and he did not sign here to play 15 mins or less per game. He will see no less than 20-25 mpg. This season is going to be more fast paced and offensive focused than what we saw with Thibs. He is a long combo guard that can play next to JB, Deuce, Mikal and Kolek in different lineups.


He's lucky to get 15-20.
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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

Post#248 » by Polk377 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:44 am

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13-18?

Is he even the backup PG? Starting 5 avgs 32 mpg. Whoever comes off the bench should split the remaining 80 minutes. That's how I see it. Numbers may fluctuate but, you can go ten deep at 16mpg avgs if you have the talent to run ten guys.

Deuce/Clarkson/Hart/Yabu as a bench getting 20mpg? Huk as needed? The kids have to fight for their minutes if they want them/deserve them. Flip Mitch for one of Hart/Deuce?

There's ways to get everyone enough minutes and not have to overlap weak lineups. Going 9-10 deep while doing it. Occasionally giving kids opportunity when logical. It all depends on the roles everyone is needed to play and how healthy we can stay. We still have another two spots to fill.

Come on now. They did not bring Clarkson here and he did not sign here to play 15 mins or less per game. He will see no less than 20-25 mpg. This season is going to be more fast paced and offensive focused than what we saw with Thibs. He is a long combo guard that can play next to JB, Deuce, Mikal and Kolek in different lineups.


He's lucky to get 15-20.

I think you are underestimating his role. Without Thibs, expect to see less Josh Hart. Clarkson will dig into his minutes and he will be around 20-25 a night. Deuce will probably be down to 15 from the 25 last season and Bridges will probably be down to 30-32 from his 37 last year.
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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

Post#249 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:45 am

Polk377 wrote:
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Polk377 wrote:Come on now. They did not bring Clarkson here and he did not sign here to play 15 mins or less per game. He will see no less than 20-25 mpg. This season is going to be more fast paced and offensive focused than what we saw with Thibs. He is a long combo guard that can play next to JB, Deuce, Mikal and Kolek in different lineups.


He's lucky to get 15-20.

I think you are underestimating his role. Without Thibs, expect to see less Josh Hart. Clarkson will dig into his minutes and he will be around 20-25 a night. Deuce will probably be down to 15 from the 25 last season and Bridges will probably be down to 30-32 from his 37 last year.


I have no expectations with him. That way, if I'm wrong, I will be happy. 8-)
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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

Post#250 » by Polk377 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:38 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
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He's lucky to get 15-20.

I think you are underestimating his role. Without Thibs, expect to see less Josh Hart. Clarkson will dig into his minutes and he will be around 20-25 a night. Deuce will probably be down to 15 from the 25 last season and Bridges will probably be down to 30-32 from his 37 last year.


I have no expectations with him. That way, if I'm wrong, I will be happy. 8-)

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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

Post#251 » by FrozenEnvelope » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:58 pm

I predict Clarkson will be this years most hated player. His shot selection and efficiency are atrocious.
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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

Post#252 » by KnicksGadfly » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:56 pm

Polk377 wrote:
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JayTWill wrote:I wasn't a big fan of the Clarkson addition but for the people that did like the pick up how many minutes do people expect him to get? I assume Brunson will get 30-35 minutes and not sure you can play a poor defensive backcourt of Brunson and Clarkson together especially with some other poor defenders on the court. I see some people talking about him getting 20-25 minutes per game which is a much bigger role than Payne had when the team was healthy.


13-18?

Is he even the backup PG? Starting 5 avgs 32 mpg. Whoever comes off the bench should split the remaining 80 minutes. That's how I see it. Numbers may fluctuate but, you can go ten deep at 16mpg avgs if you have the talent to run ten guys.

Deuce/Clarkson/Hart/Yabu as a bench getting 20mpg? Huk as needed? The kids have to fight for their minutes if they want them/deserve them. Flip Mitch for one of Hart/Deuce?

There's ways to get everyone enough minutes and not have to overlap weak lineups. Going 9-10 deep while doing it. Occasionally giving kids opportunity when logical. It all depends on the roles everyone is needed to play and how healthy we can stay. We still have another two spots to fill.

Come on now. They did not bring Clarkson here and he did not sign here to play 15 mins or less per game. He will see no less than 20-25 mpg. This season is going to be more fast paced and offensive focused than what we saw with Thibs. He is a long combo guard that can play next to JB, Deuce, Mikal and Kolek in different lineups.


He did not come here to play less but if he plays like he did in Utah, I’m not gonna be worried when we bench his ass.
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Post#253 » by CharlesOakley » Fri Jul 11, 2025 4:02 pm

I think he fits well with Deuce off the bench. Deuce is not much of a pg and will be better playing off ball and defending the opposing pg. Hopefully Brown gets him giving effort on defense.
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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

Post#254 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jul 11, 2025 4:05 pm

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13-18?

Is he even the backup PG? Starting 5 avgs 32 mpg. Whoever comes off the bench should split the remaining 80 minutes. That's how I see it. Numbers may fluctuate but, you can go ten deep at 16mpg avgs if you have the talent to run ten guys.

Deuce/Clarkson/Hart/Yabu as a bench getting 20mpg? Huk as needed? The kids have to fight for their minutes if they want them/deserve them. Flip Mitch for one of Hart/Deuce?

There's ways to get everyone enough minutes and not have to overlap weak lineups. Going 9-10 deep while doing it. Occasionally giving kids opportunity when logical. It all depends on the roles everyone is needed to play and how healthy we can stay. We still have another two spots to fill.

Come on now. They did not bring Clarkson here and he did not sign here to play 15 mins or less per game. He will see no less than 20-25 mpg. This season is going to be more fast paced and offensive focused than what we saw with Thibs. He is a long combo guard that can play next to JB, Deuce, Mikal and Kolek in different lineups.


He did not come here to play less but if he plays like he did in Utah, I’m not gonna be worried when we bench his ass.


I'm gonna remain optimistic that he can fill a need and not be a bad decision. :o
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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

Post#255 » by Polk377 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:16 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
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Polk377 wrote:Come on now. They did not bring Clarkson here and he did not sign here to play 15 mins or less per game. He will see no less than 20-25 mpg. This season is going to be more fast paced and offensive focused than what we saw with Thibs. He is a long combo guard that can play next to JB, Deuce, Mikal and Kolek in different lineups.


He did not come here to play less but if he plays like he did in Utah, I’m not gonna be worried when we bench his ass.


I'm gonna remain optimistic that he can fill a need and not be a bad decision. :o

He is a bad shot taker and maker. He is a wildcard just like JR Smith was. Expect some long 3s in transition, fadeaway 3s off screens and a lot of cursing. You will have a lot of oh god, no! Why shoot that? YES!!! moments.
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Post#256 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:32 pm

Polk377 wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
He did not come here to play less but if he plays like he did in Utah, I’m not gonna be worried when we bench his ass.


I'm gonna remain optimistic that he can fill a need and not be a bad decision. :o

He is a bad shot taker and maker. He is a wildcard just like JR Smith was. Expect some long 3s in transition, fadeaway 3s off screens and a lot of cursing. You will have a lot of oh god, no! Why shoot that? YES!!! moments.


I'm gonna let it do what it do. I know what his basic profile is. I am not a fan of an inefficient chuck and duck but, in a limited role maybe he makes sense. Being a minimum player in a bench role he needs to know he isn't gonna be a focal point. 15-20 mpg should be his role unless he excels here. IMO he's battling with Yabu for 9th man until proven otherwise.

I am still impatiently waiting to fill the roster and coaching staff as well as sign Mika/Mitch to extensions. Summer league and then the dog days waiting for things to be finalized. There's a lot of summer left. :nod:
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Post#257 » by stuporman » Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:46 pm

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Post#258 » by Polk377 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:22 pm

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I'm gonna remain optimistic that he can fill a need and not be a bad decision. :o

He is a bad shot taker and maker. He is a wildcard just like JR Smith was. Expect some long 3s in transition, fadeaway 3s off screens and a lot of cursing. You will have a lot of oh god, no! Why shoot that? YES!!! moments.


I'm gonna let it do what it do. I know what his basic profile is. I am not a fan of an inefficient chuck and duck but, in a limited role maybe he makes sense. Being a minimum player in a bench role he needs to know he isn't gonna be a focal point. 15-20 mpg should be his role unless he excels here. IMO he's battling with Yabu for 9th man until proven otherwise.

I am still impatiently waiting to fill the roster and coaching staff as well as sign Mika/Mitch to extensions. Summer league and then the dog days waiting for things to be finalized. There's a lot of summer left. :nod:

I say they just let him be the bench scoring focal point and then just hustlers like Yabu, Deuce, Hart and Hakporti around him.
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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

Post#259 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:30 pm

Polk377 wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Polk377 wrote:He is a bad shot taker and maker. He is a wildcard just like JR Smith was. Expect some long 3s in transition, fadeaway 3s off screens and a lot of cursing. You will have a lot of oh god, no! Why shoot that? YES!!! moments.


I'm gonna let it do what it do. I know what his basic profile is. I am not a fan of an inefficient chuck and duck but, in a limited role maybe he makes sense. Being a minimum player in a bench role he needs to know he isn't gonna be a focal point. 15-20 mpg should be his role unless he excels here. IMO he's battling with Yabu for 9th man until proven otherwise.

I am still impatiently waiting to fill the roster and coaching staff as well as sign Mika/Mitch to extensions. Summer league and then the dog days waiting for things to be finalized. There's a lot of summer left. :nod:

I say they just let him be the bench scoring focal point and then just hustlers like Yabu, Deuce, Hart and Hakporti around him.


Yeah, I think he will be sharing the load. Inefficient offense is not a good focal point. He will also be on the court with other starters. We aren't doing hockey subs are we?
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Re: Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks 

Post#260 » by Polk377 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:46 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Polk377 wrote:
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I'm gonna let it do what it do. I know what his basic profile is. I am not a fan of an inefficient chuck and duck but, in a limited role maybe he makes sense. Being a minimum player in a bench role he needs to know he isn't gonna be a focal point. 15-20 mpg should be his role unless he excels here. IMO he's battling with Yabu for 9th man until proven otherwise.

I am still impatiently waiting to fill the roster and coaching staff as well as sign Mika/Mitch to extensions. Summer league and then the dog days waiting for things to be finalized. There's a lot of summer left. :nod:

I say they just let him be the bench scoring focal point and then just hustlers like Yabu, Deuce, Hart and Hakporti around him.


Yeah, I think he will be sharing the load. Inefficient offense is not a good focal point. He will also be on the court with other starters. We aren't doing hockey subs are we?

I was semi joking with giving him free reign. Yes they will peobably stagger the lineup. To be fair, he has been on some really bad teams for most of his career. If they can get him into more of a role like Donte had here where he is mostly spotting up for 3s or attacking close outs, he should be more efficient.

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