The LeBron James All-NBA (2nd) and Luka Doncic - 24-25 Thread

[zimpy27]

1) Gabe+Knecht for Grayson Allen
2) Simmons for $3m (waive Milton)

PG: Reaves (14) | Simmons (3) | Bronny (2)
SG: Grayson (17) | Goodwin (2)
SF: Luka (46) | LaRavia (6) | Thiero (1)
PF: LeBron (53) | Vando (12) | Kleber (11)
C : Ayton (8) | Rui (18) | Hayes (3)

$196m total right on the 1st apron.

Lakers could trade Kleber expiring for a cheaper deal to open money for a 15th player midseason.

Pretty happy with this team tbh.

[nzahir]

1) Gabe+Knecht for Grayson Allen
2) Simmons for $3m (waive Milton)

PG: Reaves (14) | Simmons (3) | Bronny (2)
SG: Grayson (17) | Goodwin (2)
SF: Luka (46) | LaRavia (6) | Thiero (1)
PF: LeBron (53) | Vando (12) | Kleber (11)
C : Ayton (8) | Rui (18) | Hayes (3)

$196m total right on the 1st apron.

Lakers could trade Kleber expiring for a cheaper deal to open money for a 15th player midseason.

Pretty happy with this team tbh.

That startling lineup defense would be horrific

Thybulle for Gabe/Maxi, 2nd and swap

Or Thybulle and RW3 for Knecht, both expirings or try and throw in Vando and keep Gabe

POA defense and screen navigator may be even more important than wing defender

Ideally a guy who can do both, but I don’t think it happens

[zimpy27]

Grayson is a decent defender

[nzahir]

Grayson is a decent defender

According to what?

Negative EPM this season

He would be a very solid offensive weapon next to Luka, Bron, and AR though

Thybulle or Wiggins are the best fits that are realistic. They can do screen navigation and fill the POA role and also wing defender

Thybulle better with guards and being disuptive playmaker. Wiggins better with wings and has more size

Ayo is too small for wings

Knecht+Kleber for Rw3, Thybulle, and a future 2nd?

Luka, Reaves, Thybulle, Bron, Ayton
Gabe, Laravia, Vando, Rui, Rw3

I really like the upside here

If we arent getting Horford as a stretch C, I want Rw3

I kept Vando in this deal in case Thybulle gets hurt for some time (unless we sign Ben Simmons)

Still can look to sign Melton or Brogdon as well and move Gabe+Vando/Kleber and 2nd/2nds

[PistolPeteJR]

1) Gabe+Knecht for Grayson Allen
2) Simmons for $3m (waive Milton)

PG: Reaves (14) | Simmons (3) | Bronny (2)
SG: Grayson (17) | Goodwin (2)
SF: Luka (46) | LaRavia (6) | Thiero (1)
PF: LeBron (53) | Vando (12) | Kleber (11)
C : Ayton (8) | Rui (18) | Hayes (3)

$196m total right on the 1st apron.

Lakers could trade Kleber expiring for a cheaper deal to open money for a 15th player midseason.

Pretty happy with this team tbh.

I don't know that it'd cost Knecht to get Grayson, frankly. I'd rather try and use Knecht in a trade to get a PoA defender or good wing.

Serious question, how realistic do we think it is for Indiana to trade Nesmith, and what might he cost?

[trickshot]

FO can't crap the bed with the Lebron transition situation. Can't keep losing contributors for nothing or squandering expiring situations. Lebron may be high maintenance and it would even be stupid to give him the Kobe legacy contract but if you think you're just going to replace him because you're the Lakers they haven't been paying attention. Teams no longer just allow superstar free agents at the top of their game to hit the market. The real superstar FA is now final year contract trades. You have to actually keep Lebron in the loop if you're going to have a chance of finding a destination that doesn't screw you over.

It's the Ray Allen with the Celtics situation. When they exercise their right to walk they will cry foul about getting blindsided.

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[nzahir]

1) Gabe+Knecht for Grayson Allen
2) Simmons for $3m (waive Milton)

PG: Reaves (14) | Simmons (3) | Bronny (2)
SG: Grayson (17) | Goodwin (2)
SF: Luka (46) | LaRavia (6) | Thiero (1)
PF: LeBron (53) | Vando (12) | Kleber (11)
C : Ayton (8) | Rui (18) | Hayes (3)

$196m total right on the 1st apron.

Lakers could trade Kleber expiring for a cheaper deal to open money for a 15th player midseason.

Pretty happy with this team tbh.

I don't know that it'd cost Knecht to get Grayson, frankly. I'd rather try and use Knecht in a trade to get a PoA defender or good wing.

Serious question, how realistic do we think it is for Indiana to trade Nesmith, and what might he cost?

Ya we need to use Knecht for a defender

That starting defense would be horrible with Allen

No way does Indi let Nesmith go after losing Turner. If he was available we would have to offer 2031 1st, Knecht, swap in 2028/2030 (Maybe both to overpay)

Thybulle and Rw3 for Knecht+2 expirings is probably my favorite realistic trade
I feel like its a very good deal for Portland honestly, maybe we ask for a future 2nd even
Other option is give them Vando and keep 1 of the expirings (they dont give us a 2nd, maybe we give them a 2nd/cash)

Unless we feel like Wiggins can be had for Knecht+expirings+Shake (waived)+swap+2nd

Still not sure why there hasnt been resolution for guys like Melton, Horford, and Shake Milton's contract

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I'm finding it hard to feel for Lebron at this time. He "loves" LA. He's not dumb and he had to know the ownership and Pelinka are morons. He lived and experienced it. I mean, yes his run has been unprecedented, but this ending is very anti-climactic.

[zimpy27]

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I'm finding it hard to feel for Lebron at this time. He "loves" LA. He's not dumb and he had to know the ownership and Pelinka are morons. He lived and experienced it. I mean, yes his run has been unprecedented, but this ending is very anti-climactic.

Probably could have chose Clippers

[falcolombardi]

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I'm finding it hard to feel for Lebron at this time. He "loves" LA. He's not dumb and he had to know the ownership and Pelinka are morons. He lived and experienced it. I mean, yes his run has been unprecedented, but this ending is very anti-climactic.

Probably could have chose Clippers

Getting a climatic ending is very hard unless you like retire at the top which i guess he could have done after 2020 but then his career longevity would look less impressive and no scoring record

[nzahir]

I'm finding it hard to feel for Lebron at this time. He "loves" LA. He's not dumb and he had to know the ownership and Pelinka are morons. He lived and experienced it. I mean, yes his run has been unprecedented, but this ending is very anti-climactic.

Probably could have chose Clippers

Getting a climatic ending is very hard unless you like retire at the top which i guess he could have done after 2020 but then his career longevity would look less impressive and no scoring record

Story isnt done yet...

I think this team is a contender with some more tweaks

We have 6-7 playable playoff guys:
Luka, Lebron, Reaves, Ayton, Rui, Laravia and then maybe Gabe

A POA defender like Thybulle and another backup big would do wonders

I like the idea of signing Melton and trading for Thybulle and Rw3

A lot of injury risks, but I think all 3 guys can play in the playoffs and contribute

Other most realistic ending is get traded to GS this year or walk to CLE next summer

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[Joao Saraiva]

Hope Bron goes somewhere else.. I don't like the Lakers so I'd be happy to see him move back to Cleveland. Maybe even GSW and having a last run with him and Curry winning it all would be awesome.

[PistolPeteJR]

Hope Bron goes somewhere else.. I don't like the Lakers so I'd be happy to see him move back to Cleveland. Maybe even GSW and having a last run with him and Curry winning it all would be awesome.

As much as I'd love to see him win while still playing at an All-NBA level and ride it out that way into the sunset, I don't want him going to GSW.

[zimpy27]

Lakers get KCP and Konchar

Grizzlies get Rui and Vincent


I think this solves a lot of issues for both teams

[nzahir]

Lakers get KCP and Konchar

Grizzlies get Rui and Vincent


I think this solves a lot of issues for both teams

Pass

We arent adding any extra playoff calibar guys here, were just swapping Rui for KCP

Kleber+Gabe+shake+a 28 swap for KCP would be ideal

Reaves, KCP, Luka, Bron, Ayton
DK, Laravia, Vando, Rui, Hayes

I would maybe even throw in DK and remove the swap if they wanted to give us back some 2nds and then can use those 2nds in another deal

Ideally sign Melton or Horford

[zimpy27]

Lakers get KCP and Konchar

Grizzlies get Rui and Vincent


I think this solves a lot of issues for both teams

Pass

We arent adding any extra playoff calibar guys here, were just swapping Rui for KCP

Kleber+Gabe+shake+a 28 swap for KCP would be ideal

Reaves, KCP, Luka, Bron, Ayton
DK, Laravia, Vando, Rui, Hayes

I would maybe even throw in DK and remove the swap if they wanted to give us back some 2nds and then can use those 2nds in another deal

Ideally sign Melton or Horford

Luka 20fga
LeBron 18fga
Reaves 15fga
Ayton 12fga
Rui 10fga

That's 75 fga per game from 5 players. Lakers probably only put up 10 more fga.


The point is that Lakers have too many guys effective with large scoring loads. Moving Rui for defenders with low scoring need to impact is what they need to do.

[nzahir]

Lakers get KCP and Konchar

Grizzlies get Rui and Vincent


I think this solves a lot of issues for both teams

Pass

We arent adding any extra playoff calibar guys here, were just swapping Rui for KCP

Kleber+Gabe+shake+a 28 swap for KCP would be ideal

Reaves, KCP, Luka, Bron, Ayton
DK, Laravia, Vando, Rui, Hayes

I would maybe even throw in DK and remove the swap if they wanted to give us back some 2nds and then can use those 2nds in another deal

Ideally sign Melton or Horford

Luka 20fga
LeBron 18fga
Reaves 15fga
Ayton 12fga
Rui 10fga

That's 75 fga per game from 5 players. Lakers probably only put up 10 more fga.


The point is that Lakers have too many guys effective with large scoring loads. Moving Rui for defenders with low scoring need to impact is what they need to do.

I dont really agree, I dont think you can have enough capable scorers

Rui is one of our best shooters and a playoff caliber guy

I want to add on top of him and move Knecht

Who would our backup 3/4s be without Rui? Just Vando lol

Remember we let DFS walk for no reason

Also not like Laravia, Gabe, Vando, Hayes, are guys who shoot a lot

I think KCP would be a nice get for us, but if it can be Knecht+expirings/1 expiring and Vando for KCP and some small assets, thats what I would do

You still want Rw3 if he can be had for an expiring and a 2nd?

[TroubleS0me]

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