yosemiteben wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:We thought new ownership would help, but so far it's been more of the same. We stocking up on picks hopefully it comes with a major move down the line.
The ownership and FO experience has been night and day different. Much more proactive, and building assets instead of giving them away.
I don't understand looking at all the **** we've done in the last 18 months and coming away with "this is more of the same" as your take.
I'm not saying people have to be happy with their approach or even agree with the general philosophy of how they want to build, but it's definitely not more of the same. We've never built like this.
yes exactly this...
I'm not saying you have to agree with the approach they're taking. And it's very possible they may be taking the wrong approach. Time will tell. But this is clearly being done differently than what we've seen over the previous 15 years.
It's very obvious the new ownership came in and immediately gave a mandate to the old front office to trade Gordon and Terry and one of PJ or Miles. That was the first set of fingerprints on this new ownership. since then jeff has been trading nonstop trying to collect assets.
Now again you can argue that all of these were the wrong moves but it's a very different approach than what we got under Mitch and ownership previously. Don't forget this lazy front office kept French franc on the roster for six months when he was injured and couldn't play. For absolutely no purpose whatsoever. We constantly recycled in young guys last year for a look when the previous front office would have brought in Ish Smith and called it a day.
I'm not gonna sit here and pretend I understand exactly what all went down with the Mark situation and why they felt they needed to move on from him. I think it was pretty clear after the first trade failed though that his time here was done. In hindsight would they go back and not try to trade him to the Lakers? I have no idea.
I think we'll be able to second guess these draft picks for the next five years. And clearly the draft pick last year was a head scratcher. It's possible Jeff is not good at drafting. But I do like the trades that he's made and I do understand the need for asset collection for roster and franchise that was completely bare of assets despite having a poor record.
I don't really understand the decision to movefrom okogie. He was on the short list of guys that I would have brought back Without hesitation. I don't really agree with adding 4 rookies into the mix all of which are on standard contracts. I thought adding three to this team was too many so 4 rookies clearly indicates that they're taking it slow and not trying to win this year.
Now I get what everyone's saying when they say it's more of the same because we are still in some form of tank or not going all in. i've said for the past few months that they need to make a decision about melo.
For right or wrong they have clearly made a decision to try to improve the culture around the team. The hypocrisy of that is they still have Miles Bridges on the roster. There was an interview with Kon where he came out and said the quiet part out loud and reiterated that the new front office told him that they wanted to come in and help improve the culture I thought that was weird that he said that in an interview because it's clearly aimed at two players- melo/miles.
The roster is a complete mess at the moment.
But all of this feels very different in how they got here compared to the old front office which was in denial.
And from every thing I've read and heard is the front office is finally investing actual real money into putting infrastructure in place to have a competent franchise moving forward. There was none of that in place previously.
So just because I say Is different and the old ownership was a train wreck doesn't necessarily mean I think we have made all of the right moves in the past year. I think there's a difference.