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Re: Lillard 

Post#181 » by redslastlaugh » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:20 pm

bfchs123 wrote:Imagine we had tanked all of last year, got the 11th pick and ended up with Cedric Coward. How does that meaningfully impact the franchise at all?


Imagine we tanked all of 2017-18 got the 11th pick and ended up with Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, How does that meaningfully impact the franchise at all?
Imagine we tanked all of 2019-20 got the 11th pick and ended up with Tyrese Haliburton, How does that meaningfully impact the franchise at all?
Imagine we tanked all of 2020-21 got the 11th pick and ended up with Alperen Sengun, How does that meaningfully impact the franchise at all?
Imagine we tanked all of 2021-22 got the 11th pick and ended up with Jalen Williams, How does that meaningfully impact the franchise at all?

there's several impactful players every year in the draft available at pick #11
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Post#182 » by DarkAzcura » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:57 am

jfs1000d wrote:Fans hoping for a tank and a top 4 pick are crazy. It would have to happen Something like the mavericks last year. Unluckiness during the season with injuries and incredible luck in the lottery.

They aren't losing 50 games. Not with the roster they have. I am thinking 43-39.


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What’s so good about this roster for this season? We lost 4 starters and 1 strong rotation piece, one of which is an all NBA first team, MVP level player. Another is an all defensive guard. And three others who are the only legit bigs we had. I’m not sure how losing 4 starters and a strong rotation piece amounts to us only dropping ~18-20 games when we really didn’t replace those 5 players with..anyone that decent outside Simons (who will make our defense even worse). Our season would have to be perfect for that.

EDIT: Honestly, I would take Toronto’s roster over this one (not including Tatum obviously).

But yeah a top 4 pick is not that realistic. Not asking for that. I just want to be in the lottery. Let the chips fall where they fall. We need as strong a trade asset as possible to help supplement Tatum and Brown in 2026. Anything short of doing what it takes to help those two succeed for the second half of their primes is a failure, imo. We have no realistic way of adding talent to this team right now without blowing out all of our first round picks in a trade, which I would prefer not to do if it can be avoided by getting a lottery pick in 2026.

What’s our lineup right now?

Simons/PP
White/Baylor/Hugo
Brown/Hauser/Minot/Walsh
Niang/Tillman
Queta/Garza

That is so darn weak on the wings and bigs. Good guard rotation, but that’s only gonna take us so far. If that team doesn’t get shredded on defense, Joe might be COTY, lol
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Re: Lillard 

Post#183 » by Curmudgeon » Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:59 am

LOL, instead of trying to get younger and more athletic, let's give a bunch of minutes to a gimpy 36-year old who plays no defense because Tatum likes him. The young players will love sitting on the bench and watching Dame play. It will be a learning experience.
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Re: Lillard 

Post#184 » by bisme37 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 6:17 pm

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[Washburn] According to NBA sources, Tatum has been active in recruiting Lillard to Boston...the consensus from talking to league executives here in Las Vegas is the Celtics do have a chance in the Lillard sweepstakes.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/07/12/sports/celtics-analysis-las-vegas-summer-league/
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Re: Lillard 

Post#185 » by phincsfan » Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:07 pm

Two things:

1) The more I think about it, how much of the cap is Lillard gonna tie up this season and not even play a minute? I haven't seen any contract ideas for him.

2) I understand JT is the face of the franchise and the Boston world revolves around him :wink: , but are we really convinced he's doing this for the betterment of the team, or is he just trying to make himself happy rehabbing with a buddy for a year and then play alongside him next season?
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Post#186 » by Gant » Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:53 pm

phincsfan wrote:Two things:

1) The more I think about it, how much of the cap is Lillard gonna tie up this season and not even play a minute? I haven't seen any contract ideas for him.

2) I understand JT is the face of the franchise and the Boston world revolves around him :wink: , but are we really convinced he's doing this for the betterment of the team, or is he just trying to make himself happy rehabbing with a buddy for a year and then play alongside him next season?


1. None kinda. The Celtics are going to be up against the line of what they can spend whether Lillard takes the 15th spot or somebody else who won't play does.

2. See 1.
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Post#187 » by meatball sub » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:38 pm

Lillard needs to just accept that this would be his best chance at winning while being a top 3 option.
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Post#188 » by jfs1000d » Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:57 pm

DarkAzcura wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:Fans hoping for a tank and a top 4 pick are crazy. It would have to happen Something like the mavericks last year. Unluckiness during the season with injuries and incredible luck in the lottery.

They aren't losing 50 games. Not with the roster they have. I am thinking 43-39.


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What’s so good about this roster for this season? We lost 4 starters and 1 strong rotation piece, one of which is an all NBA first team, MVP level player. Another is an all defensive guard. And three others who are the only legit bigs we had. I’m not sure how losing 4 starters and a strong rotation piece amounts to us only dropping ~18-20 games when we really didn’t replace those 5 players with..anyone that decent outside Simons (who will make our defense even worse). Our season would have to be perfect for that.

EDIT: Honestly, I would take Toronto’s roster over this one (not including Tatum obviously).

But yeah a top 4 pick is not that realistic. Not asking for that. I just want to be in the lottery. Let the chips fall where they fall. We need as strong a trade asset as possible to help supplement Tatum and Brown in 2026. Anything short of doing what it takes to help those two succeed for the second half of their primes is a failure, imo. We have no realistic way of adding talent to this team right now without blowing out all of our first round picks in a trade, which I would prefer not to do if it can be avoided by getting a lottery pick in 2026.

What’s our lineup right now?

Simons/PP
White/Baylor/Hugo
Brown/Hauser/Minot/Walsh
Niang/Tillman
Queta/Garza

That is so darn weak on the wings and bigs. Good guard rotation, but that’s only gonna take us so far. If that team doesn’t get shredded on defense, Joe might be COTY, lol

4 starters?

Celtics still have their No. 2 and No.3 players. All nba player and a all star caliber guard.

Hauser, Pritchard. The only issue on team
Is a very weak frontcourt defensively and offensively.


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Post#189 » by Hal14 » Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:33 pm

phincsfan wrote:Two things:

1) The more I think about it, how much of the cap is Lillard gonna tie up this season and not even play a minute? I haven't seen any contract ideas for him.

2) I understand JT is the face of the franchise and the Boston world revolves around him :wink: , but are we really convinced he's doing this for the betterment of the team, or is he just trying to make himself happy rehabbing with a buddy for a year and then play alongside him next season?

Tatum just wants to win. If he's recruiting Dame, it's because he thinks he can help us win.
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Post#190 » by NotAKnicksFan » Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:01 pm

Pretty sure lillard signs here, and its good because bucks are paying his bill not celtics

Its also good for lillard cause he will have a good chance to win here
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Post#191 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:03 pm

jfs1000d wrote:
DarkAzcura wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:Fans hoping for a tank and a top 4 pick are crazy. It would have to happen Something like the mavericks last year. Unluckiness during the season with injuries and incredible luck in the lottery.

They aren't losing 50 games. Not with the roster they have. I am thinking 43-39.


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What’s so good about this roster for this season? We lost 4 starters and 1 strong rotation piece, one of which is an all NBA first team, MVP level player. Another is an all defensive guard. And three others who are the only legit bigs we had. I’m not sure how losing 4 starters and a strong rotation piece amounts to us only dropping ~18-20 games when we really didn’t replace those 5 players with..anyone that decent outside Simons (who will make our defense even worse). Our season would have to be perfect for that.

EDIT: Honestly, I would take Toronto’s roster over this one (not including Tatum obviously).

But yeah a top 4 pick is not that realistic. Not asking for that. I just want to be in the lottery. Let the chips fall where they fall. We need as strong a trade asset as possible to help supplement Tatum and Brown in 2026. Anything short of doing what it takes to help those two succeed for the second half of their primes is a failure, imo. We have no realistic way of adding talent to this team right now without blowing out all of our first round picks in a trade, which I would prefer not to do if it can be avoided by getting a lottery pick in 2026.

What’s our lineup right now?

Simons/PP
White/Baylor/Hugo
Brown/Hauser/Minot/Walsh
Niang/Tillman
Queta/Garza

That is so darn weak on the wings and bigs. Good guard rotation, but that’s only gonna take us so far. If that team doesn’t get shredded on defense, Joe might be COTY, lol

4 starters?

Celtics still have their No. 2 and No.3 players. All nba player and a all star caliber guard.

Hauser, Pritchard. The only issue on team
Is a very weak frontcourt defensively and offensively.


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Team has 1 allstar/almost All NBA level player - Brown
Team has 1 great role player/almost allstar level player - White
Team has 1 great bench player - Pritchard
Team has 1 good bench piece - Hauser

The rest is not good at all.

Simons - ball hog, sub average efficiency "scorer" who barely cracked 20ppg on an absolute **** team with a green light who cannot and will not play any defense
Niang - a fine 3rd SF or 3rd PF I guess.
Scheierman - 1 dimensional player without NBA athleticism. He is probably a specialist off the bench as your 5th wing or 9th man.
Hugo - who knows...a rookie...not holding my breath as he is most likely at least 2 years away from being a top 8 player on a winning team.
Davidson - undersized ball hog trash
Walsh - low IQ poor shooting trash
Williams - uninterested
Tillman - trash
Queta - good 3rd center I guess
Garza - ok 3rd center I guess, Really nothing shown in career
minott - has shown nothing so far in the league
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Re: Lillard 

Post#192 » by jfs1000d » Mon Jul 14, 2025 9:09 pm

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jfs1000d wrote:
DarkAzcura wrote:
What’s so good about this roster for this season? We lost 4 starters and 1 strong rotation piece, one of which is an all NBA first team, MVP level player. Another is an all defensive guard. And three others who are the only legit bigs we had. I’m not sure how losing 4 starters and a strong rotation piece amounts to us only dropping ~18-20 games when we really didn’t replace those 5 players with..anyone that decent outside Simons (who will make our defense even worse). Our season would have to be perfect for that.

EDIT: Honestly, I would take Toronto’s roster over this one (not including Tatum obviously).

But yeah a top 4 pick is not that realistic. Not asking for that. I just want to be in the lottery. Let the chips fall where they fall. We need as strong a trade asset as possible to help supplement Tatum and Brown in 2026. Anything short of doing what it takes to help those two succeed for the second half of their primes is a failure, imo. We have no realistic way of adding talent to this team right now without blowing out all of our first round picks in a trade, which I would prefer not to do if it can be avoided by getting a lottery pick in 2026.

What’s our lineup right now?

Simons/PP
White/Baylor/Hugo
Brown/Hauser/Minot/Walsh
Niang/Tillman
Queta/Garza

That is so darn weak on the wings and bigs. Good guard rotation, but that’s only gonna take us so far. If that team doesn’t get shredded on defense, Joe might be COTY, lol

4 starters?

Celtics still have their No. 2 and No.3 players. All nba player and a all star caliber guard.

Hauser, Pritchard. The only issue on team
Is a very weak frontcourt defensively and offensively.


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Team has 1 allstar/almost All NBA level player - Brown
Team has 1 great role player/almost allstar level player - White
Team has 1 great bench player - Pritchard
Team has 1 good bench piece - Hauser

The rest is not good at all.

Simons - ball hog, sub average efficiency "scorer" who barely cracked 20ppg on an absolute **** team with a green light who cannot and will not play any defense
Niang - a fine 3rd SF or 3rd PF I guess.
Scheierman - 1 dimensional player without NBA athleticism. He is probably a specialist off the bench as your 5th wing or 9th man.
Hugo - who knows...a rookie...not holding my breath as he is most likely at least 2 years away from being a top 8 player on a winning team.
Davidson - undersized ball hog trash
Walsh - low IQ poor shooting trash
Williams - uninterested
Tillman - trash
Queta - good 3rd center I guess
Garza - ok 3rd center I guess, Really nothing shown in career
minott - has shown nothing so far in the league

Brown would have made all nba if he was eligible. So lets stop.

White nearly made an all star team this year.

Brown is top 20 player, maybe top 15. White top 30-35.


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Post#193 » by OnlyTheTruth » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:42 am

According to someone on Reddit who is close to a. Local celebrity in Boston (social media) and this guy is confirmed to be friends with Tatum...says Lillard will sign with the Celtics.

If true, why on earth do we need another 35 yrs old player ?
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Re: Lillard 

Post#194 » by robdog_5 » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:52 am

With what money?
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Post#195 » by FlyBono » Tue Jul 15, 2025 4:12 am

I’ll take DL over any of the scrubs in the summer league court this past few days not named Bassey

Garbage drafts thus far, garbage
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Post#196 » by OnlyTheTruth » Tue Jul 15, 2025 4:45 am

robdog_5 wrote:With what money?


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Post#197 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Jul 15, 2025 9:47 am

jfs1000d wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:4 starters?

Celtics still have their No. 2 and No.3 players. All nba player and a all star caliber guard.

Hauser, Pritchard. The only issue on team
Is a very weak frontcourt defensively and offensively.


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Team has 1 allstar/almost All NBA level player - Brown
Team has 1 great role player/almost allstar level player - White
Team has 1 great bench player - Pritchard
Team has 1 good bench piece - Hauser

The rest is not good at all.

Simons - ball hog, sub average efficiency "scorer" who barely cracked 20ppg on an absolute **** team with a green light who cannot and will not play any defense
Niang - a fine 3rd SF or 3rd PF I guess.
Scheierman - 1 dimensional player without NBA athleticism. He is probably a specialist off the bench as your 5th wing or 9th man.
Hugo - who knows...a rookie...not holding my breath as he is most likely at least 2 years away from being a top 8 player on a winning team.
Davidson - undersized ball hog trash
Walsh - low IQ poor shooting trash
Williams - uninterested
Tillman - trash
Queta - good 3rd center I guess
Garza - ok 3rd center I guess, Really nothing shown in career
minott - has shown nothing so far in the league

Brown would have made all nba if he was eligible. So lets stop.

White nearly made an all star team this year.

Brown is top 20 player, maybe top 15. White top 30-35.


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Who was brown replacing?
And I said he was an almost all nba

And I said white was an almost allstar.


And here you are all butt hurt proclaiming brown is a top 20 player (almost all nba) and white is a top 30-35 (almost allstar)
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Re: Lillard 

Post#198 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:47 pm

OnlyTheTruth wrote:According to someone on Reddit who is close to a. Local celebrity in Boston (social media) and this guy is confirmed to be friends with Tatum...says Lillard will sign with the Celtics.

If true, why on earth do we need another 35 yrs old player ?

Do you know what thread that was under? I can't find it on Celtics reddit
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Post#199 » by 165bows » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:15 pm

OnlyTheTruth wrote:According to someone on Reddit who is close to a. Local celebrity in Boston (social media) and this guy is confirmed to be friends with Tatum...says Lillard will sign with the Celtics.

If true, why on earth do we need another 35 yrs old player ?

Who would be the other one?
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Post#200 » by brackdan70 » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:24 pm

So to sign Lilliard and stay under the second Apron.
We need to either trade somebody…Hauser, Niang, Simons, taking back less money that equates to the vet min plus 400K and waive someone (Davison?) for a roster spot, or waive two guys . Davison and Walsh are non guaranteed and 200K guaranteed respectively. Or they could waive and stretch Niang.
Other options as well that include waive and stretch obviously.
For me, I’d rather not chase Dame. Just doesn’t seem worth it for the hope that he might be effective for the 26/27 season. I get the gamble and can see the argument but IDK…to me Simons has just as much chance or more to be effective if we were to extend him.
It will be interesting to see what happens here, but I am on the No Lilliard wagon…I’ll fall in line if it does happen though and hope for the best.
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