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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#41 » by Guru » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:03 pm

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ThisGuyFawkes wrote:I thought it was "Lachy". Are we calling him "Lucky" now?

Also, I agree that he's an intriguing player. Kinda hoping he becomes something like Nocioni and can become a contributor due to sheer motor/effort. I like the pace, passing, touch. We'll see if he can carve something out.


A season with Windy City will get him lots more minutes on the floor than being our 15th player. He can get more accustomed to almost NBA level talent. Next season we'll have more roster spots to fill, especially on cheap contracts. Sometimes heart can get you a little farther along than just your talent or size. I won't dismiss him. Anything like a Nocioni impact and it will have been an excellent pick up.


I think this is a great take. Put him on WCB and he's our 5th big man next year backing up PF and C
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#42 » by GimmeDat » Tue Jul 15, 2025 11:19 pm

Worth noting that those NZNBL games you linked are a very low level (for pro league standards).

His feel and motor will always make him likeable. It's more the physical limitations for his position. I think he needs to shoot the 3 to stick in any capacity. I thought he'd have developed it more than he has over the past few years. The forms not broken but it's not beautiful, and he's never really let it rip from out there.
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#43 » by Ballerkingn23 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 12:26 am

Role player at best. So don’t put too much expectation than that.
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#44 » by Ballerkingn23 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:01 am

Role player at best. So don’t put too much expectation than that.
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#45 » by Almost Retired » Wed Jul 16, 2025 12:29 pm

Ballerkingn23 wrote:Role player at best. So don’t put too much expectation than that.



15 roster spots. With a salary cap. Teams need a few role players too. Especially cheap ones to balance out all the big contracts the starters end up getting. What's SGA going to be making his final year? Almost a million dollars A GAME? You have to offset that with some cheap end of the bench contracts.
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#46 » by dougthonus » Wed Jul 16, 2025 12:49 pm

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Ballerkingn23 wrote:Role player at best. So don’t put too much expectation than that.



15 roster spots. With a salary cap. Teams need a few role players too. Especially cheap ones to balance out all the big contracts the starters end up getting. What's SGA going to be making his final year? Almost a million dollars A GAME? You have to offset that with some cheap end of the bench contracts.


There are probably 100 guys you could pick up at the vet min better than this guy, so while I agree with your point, this guy still doesn't belong, which is fine, you shouldn't expect a guy drafted at 55 to ever play an NBA game.
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#47 » by Guru » Wed Jul 16, 2025 1:12 pm

dougthonus wrote:
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Ballerkingn23 wrote:Role player at best. So don’t put too much expectation than that.



15 roster spots. With a salary cap. Teams need a few role players too. Especially cheap ones to balance out all the big contracts the starters end up getting. What's SGA going to be making his final year? Almost a million dollars A GAME? You have to offset that with some cheap end of the bench contracts.


There are probably 100 guys you could pick up at the vet min better than this guy, so while I agree with your point, this guy still doesn't belong, which is fine, you shouldn't expect a guy drafted at 55 to ever play an NBA game.


This just isnt in anyway accurate. But said with such confidence.
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#48 » by dougthonus » Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:11 pm

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15 roster spots. With a salary cap. Teams need a few role players too. Especially cheap ones to balance out all the big contracts the starters end up getting. What's SGA going to be making his final year? Almost a million dollars A GAME? You have to offset that with some cheap end of the bench contracts.


There are probably 100 guys you could pick up at the vet min better than this guy, so while I agree with your point, this guy still doesn't belong, which is fine, you shouldn't expect a guy drafted at 55 to ever play an NBA game.


This just isnt in anyway accurate. But said with such confidence.


That statement could literally apply to 99% of your posts.

Have you ever done a robust analysis on draft choices in the 2nd round and their hit rates? Because I have.
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#49 » by Guru » Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:25 pm

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There are probably 100 guys you could pick up at the vet min better than this guy, so while I agree with your point, this guy still doesn't belong, which is fine, you shouldn't expect a guy drafted at 55 to ever play an NBA game.


This just isnt in anyway accurate. But said with such confidence.


That statement could literally apply to 99% of your posts.

Have you ever done a robust analysis on draft choices in the 2nd round and their hit rates? Because I have.


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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#50 » by dougthonus » Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:50 pm

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dougthonus wrote:
Guru wrote:
This just isnt in anyway accurate. But said with such confidence.


That statement could literally apply to 99% of your posts.

Have you ever done a robust analysis on draft choices in the 2nd round and their hit rates? Because I have.


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Feel free to post your analysis on the hit rates of guys drafted after 50.
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#51 » by Guru » Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:53 pm

dougthonus wrote:
Guru wrote:
dougthonus wrote:
That statement could literally apply to 99% of your posts.

Have you ever done a robust analysis on draft choices in the 2nd round and their hit rates? Because I have.


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Feel free to post your analysis on the hit rates of guys drafted after 50.


Oh I will.
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#52 » by kodo » Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:36 pm

sco wrote:I feel like the FO doesn't work too hard to find 2-way guys. AK gifts at least one of them to his 2nd round pick and seems to pick 2 other guys at random each year. The BD3 coaching job seems like purely a goodwill building exercise...dude is poop at coaching.


AK keeps going for these soft skill Center types who can play on the perimeter a bit, make connective passes without actually creating assists, and move decently on offense but have no chance of being a defensive monster in the paint, which is what 29 out of 30 teams need at Center. His 5 position is built on guys that might succeed in Europe but get killed by someone as unathletic as Tyler Herro when he drives into the paint 30 times in a play-in game.

Even the 5 projects with some bit of physicality like Sanogo or Alize are too small to block shots. He just doesn't get that you need to defend the rim to get past a .500 record.
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#53 » by MrSparkle » Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:08 pm

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sco wrote:I feel like the FO doesn't work too hard to find 2-way guys. AK gifts at least one of them to his 2nd round pick and seems to pick 2 other guys at random each year. The BD3 coaching job seems like purely a goodwill building exercise...dude is poop at coaching.


AK keeps going for these soft skill Center types who can play on the perimeter a bit, make connective passes without actually creating assists, and move decently on offense but have no chance of being a defensive monster in the paint, which is what 29 out of 30 teams need at Center. His 5 position is built on guys that might succeed in Europe but get killed by someone as unathletic as Tyler Herro when he drives into the paint 30 times in a play-in game.

Even the 5 projects with some bit of physicality like Sanogo or Alize are too small to block shots. He just doesn't get that you need to defend the rim to get past a .500 record.


Yeah personally I’m a little confused by using roster spots and 2-ways on guys with next to zero NBA potential. That includes some of the guards he held for a while (Dotson).

I just don’t see Lachlan having too much of a chance. His athleticism and length seem below average to me. You can’t just be tough. If that was the case, then Alize and Sanogo would have had great careers.

So far, AK’s choices in big men has been like… 0% hit rate.

Gafford, Kornet, Wendell, Lauri, Thad out > Vuc, Marko, Bradley in

Between the departed, you have a ring, finals appearances, all-star game, FRP return.

DJJ couldn’t get a featured role and was let go.

Picking up Tristan Thompson was worse than adding nobody at the waiver deadline.

Signing Drummond was kind of a waste of time and space, despite being solid value. He could’ve helped us win but ultimately Billy didn’t favor him, and the defense was still a problem.

Terry Taylor and Sanogo blocking 2-way spots for a while, with NO chance of NBA playoff ball.

Jalen Smith was a decent pickup, but he’s also a 3rd stringer here, which is another waste of MLE imo. You can get a starter or 6th man with that exception.

Zach Collins was a fine trade return, but more for his expiring. I wonder what happens next. Clearly Billy didn’t care to play him much in the play-in.

It’s kind of crazy how bad it’s been.
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#54 » by Red Larrivee » Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:19 pm

If he became an even remotely serviceable backup center for any amount of time, I'd consider it a big overachievement for the 55th pick in the draft. I don't think he will, and that's fine since the overwhelming majority of 2nd round picks are useless. Especially going forward with NIL depleting the talent pool.
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#55 » by GoBlue72391 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:24 pm

Guru wrote:
dougthonus wrote:
Guru wrote:
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Feel free to post your analysis on the hit rates of guys drafted after 50.


Oh I will.

We're all waiting with bated breath.
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#56 » by Ccwatercraft » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:34 pm

Guru wrote:
dougthonus wrote:
Guru wrote:
This just isnt in anyway accurate. But said with such confidence.


That statement could literally apply to 99% of your posts.

Have you ever done a robust analysis on draft choices in the 2nd round and their hit rates? Because I have.


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You both are amateurs.. 4x a day here.
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#57 » by Mk0 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:03 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:If he became an even remotely serviceable backup center for any amount of time, I'd consider it a big overachievement for the 55th pick in the draft. I don't think he will, and that's fine since the overwhelming majority of 2nd round picks are useless. Especially going forward with NIL depleting the talent pool.

This is where I am at. Most guys in this range are lucky to have a second contract. Aaron Gray had a 7 year career (drafted 49th). That should be considered a success.
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#58 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:28 pm

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Red Larrivee wrote:If he became an even remotely serviceable backup center for any amount of time, I'd consider it a big overachievement for the 55th pick in the draft. I don't think he will, and that's fine since the overwhelming majority of 2nd round picks are useless. Especially going forward with NIL depleting the talent pool.

This is where I am at. Most guys in this range are lucky to have a second contract. Aaron Gray had a 7 year career (drafted 49th). That should be considered a success.


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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#59 » by Guru » Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:36 pm

Ccwatercraft wrote:
Guru wrote:
dougthonus wrote:
That statement could literally apply to 99% of your posts.

Have you ever done a robust analysis on draft choices in the 2nd round and their hit rates? Because I have.


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You both are amateurs.. 4x a day here.


I shall double my efforts
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Re: Lachlan Olbrich: Could he turn into something? 

Post#60 » by dougthonus » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:25 pm

Guru wrote:
Ccwatercraft wrote:
Guru wrote:
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You both are amateurs.. 4x a day here.


I shall double my efforts


I mean quadruple really.

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