ATL - Kawhi salary cap circumvention

Post #1521 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:22 pm

Happy for Dame and the Blazer fans.

FlagsFlyForever · Post #1522 » by **FlagsFlyForever** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:22 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
FlagsFlyForever wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Didn't think it was a legit possibility but that's pretty awesome. Dame's as loyal as they come and it's great that he doesn't care to just shamelessly ring chase for the rest of his career.

As loyal as they come? A couple years ago he was demanding a trade to Miami.

Weird takeaway. So if our front office went to Giannis and said "sorry G, we're rebuilding around younger players and not trading away any more draft picks", and Giannis then asked for a trade, you'd be first in line to call him disloyal then, right?

If the Bucks were trying to rebuild around Giannis and he demanded a trade, I wouldn't call him "as loyal as they come".

jakecronus8 · Post #1523 » by **jakecronus8** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:22 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Happy for Dame and the Blazer fans.

I am not ready for that yet.

Ron Swanson · Post #1524 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:31 pm

FlagsFlyForever wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
FlagsFlyForever wrote:As loyal as they come? A couple years ago he was demanding a trade to Miami.

Weird takeaway. So if our front office went to Giannis and said "sorry G, we're rebuilding around younger players and not trading away any more draft picks", and Giannis then asked for a trade, you'd be first in line to call him disloyal then, right?

If the Bucks were trying to rebuild around Giannis and he demanded a trade, I wouldn't call him "as loyal as they come".

He's already one of the most loyal superstars ever and that's not gonna change if this all goes to **** and he finally moves on after spending the entire prime of his career here. If/when he's 33-years old, and Horst goes, "we're drafting a 19-year old with this Top-3 pick instead of trading it for immediate help", everyone knows what the deal is. This isn't that complicated.

Turk Nowitzki · Post #1525 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:43 pm

I'm happy if Blazers fans are happy but post Achillles tear 36 year old Dame will probably be a rude awakening for them.

tonyreyes123 · Post #1526 » by **tonyreyes123** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:44 pm

Dame is a loser lmao

raferfenix · Post #1527 » by **raferfenix** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:45 pm

So the Blazers alienated Dame by drafting Scoot instead of Brandon Miller much less dealing the pick.

And then they trade for Jrue and bring back a now humbled Dame.

Scoot must be thrilled. But he’s also just been meh so they probably don’t care.

Yes they were gifted Bucks picks for a few Dame-free years and bad headlines but this is still some serious organizational ****.

ShootingtheJ · Post #1528 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:48 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
FlagsFlyForever wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Didn't think it was a legit possibility but that's pretty awesome. Dame's as loyal as they come and it's great that he doesn't care to just shamelessly ring chase for the rest of his career.

As loyal as they come? A couple years ago he was demanding a trade to Miami.

Weird takeaway. So if our front office went to Giannis and said "sorry G, we're rebuilding around younger players and not trading away any more draft picks", and Giannis then asked for a trade, you'd be first in line to call him disloyal then, right?

That's not how it went down at all

ShootingtheJ · Post #1529 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:51 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:So PDX is paying him $20m a year as a thank you? Wonder if we would've approached him first if he would've taken this haircut on the buyout.

If I'm understanding this correctly, we wouldn't be eligible for the offset if this was a buyout.

engelmartin · Post #1530 » by **engelmartin** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:52 pm

Dame got a no-trade clause and a player option.

ShootingtheJ · Post #1531 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:53 pm

Happy to trim $11.6 million of the cap hit.

Profound23 · Post #1532 » by **Profound23** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:54 pm

Dame is a smart man. They were talking about Boston or GS which made no sense.

ShootingtheJ · Post #1533 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:55 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Happy for Dame and the Blazer fans.

I don't think Blazers fans are happy for Blazers fans right now.

Ron Swanson · Post #1534 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:56 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
FlagsFlyForever wrote:As loyal as they come? A couple years ago he was demanding a trade to Miami.

Weird takeaway. So if our front office went to Giannis and said "sorry G, we're rebuilding around younger players and not trading away any more draft picks", and Giannis then asked for a trade, you'd be first in line to call him disloyal then, right?

That's not how it went down at all

It's literally exactly how it went down.

The Blazers elected to keep their draft pick after both seasons, most recently selecting guard Scoot Henderson with the No. 2 overall pick. Lillard's trade request came shortly after.

Dick Tate · Post #1535 » by **Dick Tate** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:57 pm

Cool, maybe he'll retire with the Sonics. 8-)

Post #1536 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:58 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Happy for Dame and the Blazer fans.

I don't think Blazers fans are happy for Blazers fans right now.

Dude they're thrilled. It's like LeBron coming home for them.

midranger · Post #1537 » by **midranger** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:06 pm

tonyreyes123 wrote:Dame is a loser lmao

Meh, he’s a human being going through a really tough moment personally and professionally who is returning to his children and the city he had the best years of his life.

I think he’s doing just fine.

ShootingtheJ · Post #1538 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:07 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
Weird takeaway. So if our front office went to Giannis and said "sorry G, we're rebuilding around younger players and not trading away any more draft picks", and Giannis then asked for a trade, you'd be first in line to call him disloyal then, right?

That's not how it went down at all

It's literally exactly how it went down.

The Blazers elected to keep their draft pick after both seasons, most recently selecting guard Scoot Henderson with the No. 2 overall pick. Lillard's trade request came shortly after.

Nope, Dame demanded to get traded to Miami. Miami wouldn't pay what Portland wanted, so Dame tried to reneg on his demand, but Portland said" too late".

midranger · Post #1539 » by **midranger** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:07 pm

There are too many single issue posters that spam threads.

ShootingtheJ · Post #1540 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:08 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Happy for Dame and the Blazer fans.

I don't think Blazers fans are happy for Blazers fans right now.

Dude they're thrilled. It's like LeBron coming home for them.

I guarantee our friend Jroy is pissed. They want to win.