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Post#41 » by tedbrogen » Wed Jul 23, 2025 3:21 am

crowhead76 wrote:If the Bucks waive Ajax, does he get signed to a regular contract by another team?


When the Bucks waive Ajax, he’s going to need to learn Chinese.
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Post#42 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Jul 23, 2025 3:33 am

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crowhead76 wrote:If the Bucks waive Ajax, does he get signed to a regular contract by another team?


When the Bucks waive Ajax, he’s going to need to learn Chinese.


He could get a 2 way contract. There's always a team that will try to fix him.
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Post#43 » by tedbrogen » Wed Jul 23, 2025 3:55 am

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crowhead76 wrote:If the Bucks waive Ajax, does he get signed to a regular contract by another team?


When the Bucks waive Ajax, he’s going to need to learn Chinese.


He could get a 2 way contract. There's always a team that will try to fix him.


Sure but that just buys him a year or two to learn Chinese. He’s destined to be a Shanghai Shark.
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Post#44 » by -Jragon- » Wed Jul 23, 2025 5:40 am

I really hope this Giannis at PG stuff is spam. I really think we saw that movie already and know how it ends. Why go backwards when he has all these post moves now. Trying PG Giannis again with a worse coach? Why? What does the defense do to counter.... hmmm... have him zigzag through bodies, legs and feet; leading to injuries... and he's not even average at free throws. This is bs re-experiment is going to cost us another wasted Giannis year and we have Turner paired up with him.

We should have been playing inside-out with Giannis the whole time... catch the ball where you're dangerous.. let the D collapse or Giannis beats dudes 1v1... if they double you can see it easier when you're not trying to dribble zig zag through little midget pricks like Indy that will make sure you get hurt running into them. Use your pivot and jab step in a triple threat position.. once you're dribbling you're stuck and trapped.. the less dribbles the better.. if they double while you have your triple threat let your 3 and D guys do damage... have some plays with weakside cuts for layups and get your assists like that. Every MF NBA player think they need to dribble through the whole world in order to feel important... stop.. catch it where you're dangerous and not where you're in danger.

Am I wrong? If so, talk me off the ledge.. are we just clowning the league with these PG Giannis leaks? Is this why we didn't get Paul? I'm just.... just no
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Post#45 » by Bucks4005 » Wed Jul 23, 2025 6:03 am

-Jragon- wrote:I really hope this Giannis at PG stuff is spam. I really think we saw that movie already and know how it ends. Why go backwards when he has all these post moves now. Trying PG Giannis again with a worse coach? Why? What does the defense do to counter.... hmmm... have him zigzag through bodies, legs and feet; leading to injuries... and he's not even average at free throws. This is bs re-experiment is going to cost us another wasted Giannis year and we have Turner paired up with him.

We should have been playing inside-out with Giannis the whole time... catch the ball where you're dangerous.. let the D collapse or Giannis beats dudes 1v1... if they double you can see it easier when you're not trying to dribble zig zag through little midget pricks like Indy that will make sure you get hurt running into them. Use your pivot and jab step in a triple threat position.. once you're dribbling you're stuck and trapped.. the less dribbles the better.. if they double while you have your triple threat let your 3 and D guys do damage... have some plays with weakside cuts for layups and get your assists like that. Every MF NBA player think they need to dribble through the whole world in order to feel important... stop.. catch it where you're dangerous and not where you're in danger.

Am I wrong? If so, talk me off the ledge.. are we just clowning the league with these PG Giannis leaks? Is this why we didn't get Paul? I'm just.... just no


I mean, I think it’s more Giannis will have the ball more, but Porter Jr is pretty clearly a PG
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Post#46 » by drew881 » Wed Jul 23, 2025 7:04 am

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-Jragon- wrote:I really hope this Giannis at PG stuff is spam. I really think we saw that movie already and know how it ends. Why go backwards when he has all these post moves now. Trying PG Giannis again with a worse coach? Why? What does the defense do to counter.... hmmm... have him zigzag through bodies, legs and feet; leading to injuries... and he's not even average at free throws. This is bs re-experiment is going to cost us another wasted Giannis year and we have Turner paired up with him.

We should have been playing inside-out with Giannis the whole time... catch the ball where you're dangerous.. let the D collapse or Giannis beats dudes 1v1... if they double you can see it easier when you're not trying to dribble zig zag through little midget pricks like Indy that will make sure you get hurt running into them. Use your pivot and jab step in a triple threat position.. once you're dribbling you're stuck and trapped.. the less dribbles the better.. if they double while you have your triple threat let your 3 and D guys do damage... have some plays with weakside cuts for layups and get your assists like that. Every MF NBA player think they need to dribble through the whole world in order to feel important... stop.. catch it where you're dangerous and not where you're in danger.

Am I wrong? If so, talk me off the ledge.. are we just clowning the league with these PG Giannis leaks? Is this why we didn't get Paul? I'm just.... just no


I mean, I think it’s more Giannis will have the ball more, but Porter Jr is pretty clearly a PG


This is about keeping Giannis interested/happy and reinserting his name into the national conversation for MVP. Will it lead to more success in the playoffs? Hopefully, but probably not. I worry that we get to playoffs with him healthy and not out of gas.
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Post#47 » by drone3 » Wed Jul 23, 2025 8:50 am

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tedbrogen wrote:
crowhead76 wrote:If the Bucks waive Ajax, does he get signed to a regular contract by another team?


When the Bucks waive Ajax, he’s going to need to learn Chinese.


He could get a 2 way contract. There's always a team that will try to fix him.
Ajax has plenty to offer he just needs the right organisation and fit. He could easily have a Bruce Brown career
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Post#48 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Jul 23, 2025 10:52 am

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-Jragon- wrote:I really hope this Giannis at PG stuff is spam. I really think we saw that movie already and know how it ends. Why go backwards when he has all these post moves now. Trying PG Giannis again with a worse coach? Why? What does the defense do to counter.... hmmm... have him zigzag through bodies, legs and feet; leading to injuries... and he's not even average at free throws. This is bs re-experiment is going to cost us another wasted Giannis year and we have Turner paired up with him.

We should have been playing inside-out with Giannis the whole time... catch the ball where you're dangerous.. let the D collapse or Giannis beats dudes 1v1... if they double you can see it easier when you're not trying to dribble zig zag through little midget pricks like Indy that will make sure you get hurt running into them. Use your pivot and jab step in a triple threat position.. once you're dribbling you're stuck and trapped.. the less dribbles the better.. if they double while you have your triple threat let your 3 and D guys do damage... have some plays with weakside cuts for layups and get your assists like that. Every MF NBA player think they need to dribble through the whole world in order to feel important... stop.. catch it where you're dangerous and not where you're in danger.

Am I wrong? If so, talk me off the ledge.. are we just clowning the league with these PG Giannis leaks? Is this why we didn't get Paul? I'm just.... just no


I mean, I think it’s more Giannis will have the ball more, but Porter Jr is pretty clearly a PG


This is about keeping Giannis interested/happy and reinserting his name into the national conversation for MVP. Will it lead to more success in the playoffs? Hopefully, but probably not. I worry that we get to playoffs with him healthy and not out of gas.


This is 100% about building an effective offense. After Dame got hurt and we switched to the Giannis offense, we had the #2 offense in the league. Not only did we prove Giannis is an awesome PG, but Dame is simply not a PG.

KPJ will still bring the ball up often, so the workload for Giannis is a non factor. The important part is that Giannis will touch the ball every time down, using his gravity to create openings even when he doesn't drive.
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Post#49 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Jul 23, 2025 10:55 am

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ShootingtheJ wrote:
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When the Bucks waive Ajax, he’s going to need to learn Chinese.


He could get a 2 way contract. There's always a team that will try to fix him.


Sure but that just buys him a year or two to learn Chinese. He’s destined to be a Shanghai Shark.


He'll likely end up overseas, but definitely not in the CBA. The Chinese teams want scorers.
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Post#50 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:03 am

-Jragon- wrote:I really hope this Giannis at PG stuff is spam. I really think we saw that movie already and know how it ends. Why go backwards when he has all these post moves now. Trying PG Giannis again with a worse coach? Why? What does the defense do to counter.... hmmm... have him zigzag through bodies, legs and feet; leading to injuries... and he's not even average at free throws. This is bs re-experiment is going to cost us another wasted Giannis year and we have Turner paired up with him.

We should have been playing inside-out with Giannis the whole time... catch the ball where you're dangerous.. let the D collapse or Giannis beats dudes 1v1... if they double you can see it easier when you're not trying to dribble zig zag through little midget pricks like Indy that will make sure you get hurt running into them. Use your pivot and jab step in a triple threat position.. once you're dribbling you're stuck and trapped.. the less dribbles the better.. if they double while you have your triple threat let your 3 and D guys do damage... have some plays with weakside cuts for layups and get your assists like that. Every MF NBA player think they need to dribble through the whole world in order to feel important... stop.. catch it where you're dangerous and not where you're in danger.

Am I wrong? If so, talk me off the ledge.. are we just clowning the league with these PG Giannis leaks? Is this why we didn't get Paul? I'm just.... just no



Giannis worst injury of his career came trying to catch a lob. Jumping in traffic is the dangerous part of the game, not passing.

Are you wrong? Yes. If you thought Dame was a PG and Giannis isn't, it becomes pretty obvious that you stopped watching the Bucks last year after your guy Dame got hurt, and you missed the only good part of the season.
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Post#51 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:08 am

Bernman wrote:I don't know if Hachimura gets assets back like Kuz would have reportedly netted from the Mavs season before last. That deal probably doesn't happen, but comes down to how you weight last season.

However, you could simplify it to Knecht for Ajax & Bogo's rights. The case for the Lakers is they shave a couple mill (or more if they waive him) in the apron era, get a better fit & free lotto ticket w/ no cap #. There are clear reasons to do it. Whether it's enough, you'd have to ask them.


The Lakers wouldn't save money waiving Ajax, as the part of his salary needed for salary matching would become guaranteed, and in this trade, it would be all of it.
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Post#52 » by JayMKE » Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:13 am

Giannis has always been the PG, he brings the ball up and the offense runs thru him.
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Post#53 » by BroncoBuck » Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:29 am

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ShootingtheJ wrote:
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When the Bucks waive Ajax, he’s going to need to learn Chinese.


He could get a 2 way contract. There's always a team that will try to fix him.
Ajax has plenty to offer he just needs the right organisation and fit. He could easily have a Bruce Brown career


Ajax has plenty to offer. He could easily have a janitorial career.
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Post#54 » by raferfenix » Wed Jul 23, 2025 1:14 pm

Bernman wrote:I'd happily do the Hachi/Knecht for Kuz deal. Would even give them the rights to Bogo, Smith, Ajax, whatever they want from that ilk. Hachi can shoot, is an OK defender & rebounder. Plus he's expiring. Knecht I think has some on ball juice. May flourish if his role expanded here.


Would the Bucks extend Rui though?

If not — unless he’d be heading to a different team — we’d have the same issue as the Lakers where he’d walk and we lose the salary slot / asset.

Not having a sizable salary to include with our picks come draft day would be inhibiting.

That's where I’m most curious what return we could get in a multi-team deal.
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Post#57 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Jul 23, 2025 1:53 pm

Fun writeup. Explains pretty well why Rollins is the guy I'd be highest on going into this season. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if something like Anthony/Rollins/Trent/Giannis/Turner ends up being our best lineup.
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Post#58 » by emunney » Wed Jul 23, 2025 1:57 pm

-Jragon- wrote:I really hope this Giannis at PG stuff is spam. I really think we saw that movie already and know how it ends. Why go backwards when he has all these post moves now. Trying PG Giannis again with a worse coach? Why? What does the defense do to counter.... hmmm... have him zigzag through bodies, legs and feet; leading to injuries... and he's not even average at free throws. This is bs re-experiment is going to cost us another wasted Giannis year and we have Turner paired up with him.

We should have been playing inside-out with Giannis the whole time... catch the ball where you're dangerous.. let the D collapse or Giannis beats dudes 1v1... if they double you can see it easier when you're not trying to dribble zig zag through little midget pricks like Indy that will make sure you get hurt running into them. Use your pivot and jab step in a triple threat position.. once you're dribbling you're stuck and trapped.. the less dribbles the better.. if they double while you have your triple threat let your 3 and D guys do damage... have some plays with weakside cuts for layups and get your assists like that. Every MF NBA player think they need to dribble through the whole world in order to feel important... stop.. catch it where you're dangerous and not where you're in danger.

Am I wrong? If so, talk me off the ledge.. are we just clowning the league with these PG Giannis leaks? Is this why we didn't get Paul? I'm just.... just no


Did you watch them play down the stretch of the season? He basically just brings up the ball for a handoff unless he's got a lane. It's about getting the ball up the court and getting into offense quickly, not about him operating from above the break.
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Post#59 » by Bernman » Wed Jul 23, 2025 2:30 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Fun writeup. Explains pretty well why Rollins is the guy I'd be highest on going into this season. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if something like Anthony/Rollins/Trent/Giannis/Turner ends up being our best lineup.


It would surprise me a lot. You're giving up plenty of defense, rebounding, & a real 2nd creator. Cole Anthony hasn't demonstrated he's more than a 6th man yet. What KPJ did his last season in Houston & the regular season here, has exceeded anything Cole's ever done.

I'm intrigued by Rollins, but if he's taking a spot as a starter, it should be from Trent. Maybe Gary often finishes then, w/ hot-hand consideration.
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Post#60 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Jul 23, 2025 2:47 pm

Anthony and Rollins are both great rebounding guards. If Trent is your worst guy out there then you're doing fine. I could honestly see any number of backcourt combos being this team's go-to lineup. KPJ/Green, KPJ/Rollins, Anthony/Trent, Rollins/Green, etc. There's no clear pecking order nor should there be. All these guys should be hungry and have to prove that they deserve minutes over the others. Doc at least gives young guys chances, sometimes to a fault (Andre).

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