Jeff Teague says LeBron was on roids in Miami
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So, this clearly never happened in Miami. LeBron never took that amount of time off.
He did get back problems in Cleveland. And after some time off for that issue he did lose weight. Why? The reporting at the time was because his weight was contributing to his back problems. But AFAIK it wasn't instantaneous (nor do you suddenly drop muscle when you stop taking PEDs). He didn't lose most of that weight until the offseason.
Here's a Windy article from 2018 about the 2015 back issues: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22778062/how-lebron-james-fixed-back-track-play-all-82-games-nba
That's not to say that LeBron didn't ever take PEDs, and it wouldn't be surprising, but this from Teague is clearly speculation from a guy who never played a game with LeBron and probably hasn't heard anything but rumors.
He did get back problems in Cleveland. And after some time off for that issue he did lose weight. Why? The reporting at the time was because his weight was contributing to his back problems. But AFAIK it wasn't instantaneous (nor do you suddenly drop muscle when you stop taking PEDs). He didn't lose most of that weight until the offseason.
Here's a Windy article from 2018 about the 2015 back issues: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22778062/how-lebron-james-fixed-back-track-play-all-82-games-nba
That's not to say that LeBron didn't ever take PEDs, and it wouldn't be surprising, but this from Teague is clearly speculation from a guy who never played a game with LeBron and probably hasn't heard anything but rumors.
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LakerLegend wrote:Is anyone surprised?
The only thing I'm surprised about is that teague thinks most of us are stupid enough to believe this.
LakerLegend wrote:LeBron was literally more athletic at 35 than he was at 20
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Team hopping cheater wants to be the goat. I don't think so.
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Iwasawitness wrote:LakerLegend wrote:Is anyone surprised?
The only thing I'm surprised about is that teague thinks most of us are stupid enough to believe this.
You don’t think people said the same thing about Barry bonds Sammy Sosa and mark mcgwire?
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LakerLegend wrote:Bornstellar wrote:For one, how tf would Jeff Teague of all people know this? And for two, does anyone actually care if a player is using gear? I sure don't. This isn't baseball where juicing gives you a massive edge at bat. I would be surprised if most players weren't on some form of steroids
Uh Jeff Teague is like the 50th person to have said/alluded to LeBron and PEDs.
A lot of people like to s*** talk LeBron because of who he is and because of his freakish longevity. Doesn't make it true. Also not saying he didn't or never juiced but like Teague doesn't know anything, he's only speculating
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toooskies wrote:So, this clearly never happened in Miami. LeBron never took that amount of time off.
He did get back problems in Cleveland. And after some time off for that issue he did lose weight. Why? The reporting at the time was because his weight was contributing to his back problems. But AFAIK it wasn't instantaneous (nor do you suddenly drop muscle when you stop taking PEDs). He didn't lose most of that weight until the offseason.
Here's a Windy article from 2018 about the 2015 back issues: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22778062/how-lebron-james-fixed-back-track-play-all-82-games-nba
That's not to say that LeBron didn't ever take PEDs, and it wouldn't be surprising, but this from Teague is clearly speculation from a guy who never played a game with LeBron and probably hasn't heard anything but rumors.
Kevin Love lost weight to improve his back issues on the Wolves just before he came to the Cavs. I think he helped LeBron with this.
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Bornstellar wrote:For one, how tf would Jeff Teague of all people know this? And for two, does anyone actually care if a player is using gear? I sure don't. This isn't baseball where juicing gives you a massive edge at bat. I would be surprised if most players weren't on some form of steroids
It could play a role in recovery. We talk a lot about the advancements in sports medicine. Lebron is known for going to great lengths to maintain his body. It would almost be more surprising as you say if he and other NBA players were not using some questionable substances.
As for whether anybody cares... it could put a stain on Lebron's legacy that is so tied to longevity. If people start associating his longevity with steroids that could diminish his GOAT credentials.
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I’m one that has said many times that I think LeBron and most professional athletes are using some kind of PED.
With that said. You don’t lose all your gains in 3 weeks. Ya when you’re on HGH you’ll retain a lot more water and you can start to see some weight loss from the water retention dying off. But no you don’t just end a cycle and 3 weeks later it’s like you never took anything. Unless he completely stopped working out and was in a massive calorie deficit and was basically starving himself.
This just sounds like your normal former player podcast where they say random crap to get trending. And to Teague’s credit, he seems to have succeeded
With that said. You don’t lose all your gains in 3 weeks. Ya when you’re on HGH you’ll retain a lot more water and you can start to see some weight loss from the water retention dying off. But no you don’t just end a cycle and 3 weeks later it’s like you never took anything. Unless he completely stopped working out and was in a massive calorie deficit and was basically starving himself.
This just sounds like your normal former player podcast where they say random crap to get trending. And to Teague’s credit, he seems to have succeeded
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Losing weight is a common cure for back pain. It’s not that deep.
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I also heard some NBA players smoked weed once. Don't want to name names.
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Bornstellar wrote:LakerLegend wrote:Bornstellar wrote:For one, how tf would Jeff Teague of all people know this? And for two, does anyone actually care if a player is using gear? I sure don't. This isn't baseball where juicing gives you a massive edge at bat. I would be surprised if most players weren't on some form of steroids
Uh Jeff Teague is like the 50th person to have said/alluded to LeBron and PEDs.
A lot of people like to s*** talk LeBron because of who he is and because of his freakish longevity. Doesn't make it true. Also not saying he didn't or never juiced but like Teague doesn't know anything, he's only speculating
We don’t know what Teague *really* knows or doesn’t know.
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Iwasawitness wrote:LakerLegend wrote:Is anyone surprised?
The only thing I'm surprised about is that teague thinks most of us are stupid enough to believe this.
He’s right though.
And not because of stupidity, but because the anti-LeBron crowd will gobble it up nine times over lol.
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Jeff Teagues been rage baiting ever since he got his podcast. Saying one ridiculous thing after another.
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This is what Teague is talking about. The NBA started testing for HGH not long before this. Read it closely, especially the last paragraph: https://www.businessinsider.com/lebron-james-2-week-break-turned-his-season-around-2015-4
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LakerLegend wrote:This is what Teague is talking about. Read it closely, especially the last paragraph: https://www.businessinsider.com/lebron-james-2-week-break-turned-his-season-around-2015-4
Oddly enough LeBron also took a mid season “break” this year after playing badly and came back looking more explosive.
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Anytime a player calls out Lebron for using PEDS
"nooo what does that scrub even know u cant prove anything al ala ala ala also so what if bron is using peds, everyone is but also noooo proof!!!!"
Guys, every single player is taking some sort of PED. Anabolics, HGH, Peptides, EPO, tons of stuff.
No need to have an epileptic fit anytime someone says Lebron- a dude with a very DHT influenced hairline, 3D delts, crazy cardio, very low bodyfat, irregular jaw size, literal HGH gut, ridiculously fast recovery, unheard of longevity - is taking PEDs. He most obviously is.
So is everyone else.
"nooo what does that scrub even know u cant prove anything al ala ala ala also so what if bron is using peds, everyone is but also noooo proof!!!!"
Guys, every single player is taking some sort of PED. Anabolics, HGH, Peptides, EPO, tons of stuff.
No need to have an epileptic fit anytime someone says Lebron- a dude with a very DHT influenced hairline, 3D delts, crazy cardio, very low bodyfat, irregular jaw size, literal HGH gut, ridiculously fast recovery, unheard of longevity - is taking PEDs. He most obviously is.
So is everyone else.
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I actually wouldn't be surprised. That said, just about everything that comes out of teague's mouth since he got a podcast makes me think less of him. Of course he has no real proof.
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Lunartic wrote:Anytime a player calls out Lebron for using PEDS
"nooo what does that scrub even know u cant prove anything al ala ala ala also so what if bron is using peds, everyone is but also noooo proof!!!!"
Guys, every single player is taking some sort of PED. Anabolics, HGH, Peptides, EPO, tons of stuff.
No need to have an epileptic fit anytime someone says Lebron- a dude with a very DHT influenced hairline, 3D delts, crazy cardio, very low bodyfat, irregular jaw size, literal HGH gut, ridiculously fast recovery, unheard of longevity - is taking PEDs. He most obviously is.
So is everyone else.
Here’s the thing. If everyone including LeBron was taking stuff, and specifically taking the same stuff then he wouldn’t be literally the only player in history with all of the features you cited above.
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zimpy27 wrote:toooskies wrote:So, this clearly never happened in Miami. LeBron never took that amount of time off.
He did get back problems in Cleveland. And after some time off for that issue he did lose weight. Why? The reporting at the time was because his weight was contributing to his back problems. But AFAIK it wasn't instantaneous (nor do you suddenly drop muscle when you stop taking PEDs). He didn't lose most of that weight until the offseason.
Here's a Windy article from 2018 about the 2015 back issues: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22778062/how-lebron-james-fixed-back-track-play-all-82-games-nba
That's not to say that LeBron didn't ever take PEDs, and it wouldn't be surprising, but this from Teague is clearly speculation from a guy who never played a game with LeBron and probably hasn't heard anything but rumors.
Kevin Love lost weight to improve his back issues on the Wolves just before he came to the Cavs. I think he helped LeBron with this.
"News just in: K-Love weightloss was due to cycling off peds the off-season before joining Cavs!"
