Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
Moderators: MoneyTalks41890, HartfordWhalers, Texas Chuck, BullyKing, Andre Roberstan, loserX, Trader_Joe, Mamba4Goat, pacers33granger
Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- Bench Warmer
- Posts: 1,420
- And1: 1,028
- Joined: Feb 19, 2012
Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
Kuminga S&T 3/$50m
for
Royce O’Neal
Rasheer Fleming (2nd rd rookie)
- Warriors get a solid journeyman on a better deal than Grayson plus a young asset
- Suns get their starting PF at a non-crazy number
for
Royce O’Neal
Rasheer Fleming (2nd rd rookie)
- Warriors get a solid journeyman on a better deal than Grayson plus a young asset
- Suns get their starting PF at a non-crazy number
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,559
- And1: 7,078
- Joined: Dec 23, 2003
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
Kuminga is not signing that contract.
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- Analyst
- Posts: 3,025
- And1: 293
- Joined: Jun 14, 2009
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
GSW would just resign him for that
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,432
- And1: 3,413
- Joined: Sep 01, 2014
-
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
I think I'd be fine with this. TBH I wouldn't mind Grayson Allen either
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 29,501
- And1: 7,455
- Joined: Nov 24, 2003
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
I'd rather sign jk for 3/60 and get a much better return at the deadline.
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,432
- And1: 3,413
- Joined: Sep 01, 2014
-
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
Crazy-Canuck wrote:I'd rather sign jk for 3/60 and get a much better return at the deadline.
I feel like too much risk at this point. How much could they possibly boost his value in half a season while still keeping pace in a competitive West?
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
- HornetJail
- RealGM
- Posts: 46,472
- And1: 14,206
- Joined: Feb 05, 2012
-
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
if Kuminga was willing to sign for $16.7M a year, the Warriors would have done it by now. the whole problem is he wants twice that number
investigate Adam Silver
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,650
- And1: 4,550
- Joined: Sep 24, 2014
-
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
parsnips33 wrote:Crazy-Canuck wrote:I'd rather sign jk for 3/60 and get a much better return at the deadline.
I feel like too much risk at this point. How much could they possibly boost his value in half a season while still keeping pace in a competitive West?
GSW has no bigs so he would get starters minutes.
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,432
- And1: 3,413
- Joined: Sep 01, 2014
-
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
vxmike wrote:parsnips33 wrote:Crazy-Canuck wrote:I'd rather sign jk for 3/60 and get a much better return at the deadline.
I feel like too much risk at this point. How much could they possibly boost his value in half a season while still keeping pace in a competitive West?
GSW has no bigs so he would get starters minutes.
May I introduce you to Coach Steve Kerr

Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- Bench Warmer
- Posts: 1,420
- And1: 1,028
- Joined: Feb 19, 2012
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
HornetJail wrote:if Kuminga was willing to sign for $16.7M a year, the Warriors would have done it by now. the whole problem is he wants twice that number
Trying to keep within 125% of those two players. Could the Suns sign him for more from that package?
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,814
- And1: 7,901
- Joined: Jun 18, 2018
-
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
Hook_Em wrote:HornetJail wrote:if Kuminga was willing to sign for $16.7M a year, the Warriors would have done it by now. the whole problem is he wants twice that number
Trying to keep within 125% of those two players. Could the Suns sign him for more from that package?
125% is for outgoing salaries above 29MM. Up to 29MM can bring back the outgoing salary plus 8.5MM. But bringing back even one dollar more than they send out hard-caps a team at the 1st Apron which the Warriors can't afford to do, I don't know about the Suns. The Warriors can live with a 2nd apron hard-cap but not a 1st.
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- Retired Mod
- Posts: 34,647
- And1: 6,310
- Joined: Apr 27, 2005
-
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
Done no take backs
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 13,637
- And1: 1,644
- Joined: Jan 10, 2007
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
Im assuming Kuminga wants a 9 figure deal guaranteed. ie. 4 years, $100 million.
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- Retired Mod
- Posts: 34,647
- And1: 6,310
- Joined: Apr 27, 2005
-
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
Bentley1225 wrote:Im assuming Kuminga wants a 9 figure deal guaranteed. ie. 4 years, $100 million.
People in hell want ice water.
If someone were willing to give Kuminga 9 figures guaranteed a deal would have been worked out by now.
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 9,125
- And1: 7,464
- Joined: Feb 21, 2014
-
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
I think suns could add nick Richard’s for more salary.
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- Pro Prospect
- Posts: 975
- And1: 423
- Joined: Dec 13, 2019
-
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
vxmike wrote:parsnips33 wrote:Crazy-Canuck wrote:I'd rather sign jk for 3/60 and get a much better return at the deadline.
I feel like too much risk at this point. How much could they possibly boost his value in half a season while still keeping pace in a competitive West?
GSW has no bigs so he would get starters minutes.
The Warriors are signing Horford after they clear up the Kuminga situation. He will start.
The rumor was Kuminga for O’Neale and Nick Richards, but I’d be fine with Fleming instead of Richards. I think O’Neale would be a good fit for the Warriors.
Black Lives Matter
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- Analyst
- Posts: 3,709
- And1: 3,618
- Joined: Jul 31, 2009
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
I've checked several times, but still can't see the 1st/s attached t0 Kuz... 

Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- Sixth Man
- Posts: 1,940
- And1: 342
- Joined: Nov 14, 2020
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
gswhoops wrote:Bentley1225 wrote:Im assuming Kuminga wants a 9 figure deal guaranteed. ie. 4 years, $100 million.
People in hell want ice water.
If someone were willing to give Kuminga 9 figures guaranteed a deal would have been worked out by now.
Ahh, 25 a year is likely what he at least wants and will get. These 3/50 and 3/60 contract ideas are nonsense.
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,689
- And1: 1,133
- Joined: Jan 11, 2002
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
Kuminga is not a PF, never was, never will be, there is no place and need for him In Phoenix, therefore I would not even trade Fleming for him.
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,230
- And1: 7,045
- Joined: Dec 28, 2018
- Location: São Paulo, Brasil
-
Re: Kuminga for O’Neal & Fleming
hcsilla wrote:Kuminga is not a PF, never was, never will be, there is no place and need for him In Phoenix, therefore I would not even trade Fleming for him.
Why not?
BAF Brooklyn - Pre-Season NBA 2K Simulation 2023 Champions.
Brunson/Nembhard/Micic
IQ/Strus/Ben Sheppard
Butler/Nesmith/Watford
Batum/Boucher/Morris/
Embiid/Plumlee/Landale/
Brunson/Nembhard/Micic
IQ/Strus/Ben Sheppard
Butler/Nesmith/Watford
Batum/Boucher/Morris/
Embiid/Plumlee/Landale/
Return to Trades and Transactions