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The 2025 Wolves Off Season

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#661 » by KGdaBom » Mon Jul 28, 2025 10:34 am

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shangrila wrote:I think everyone should prepare for Beringer to have a redshirt season


I don't why anyone would expect he would get more minutes than Garza: garbage time, extreme foul trouble, multiple injuries

Le Berricade will be one of the top 5 players from this years draft and as such he will get minutes. This is beyond contestation.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#662 » by shangrila » Mon Jul 28, 2025 8:32 pm

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shangrila wrote:I think everyone should prepare for Beringer to have a redshirt season

I am not prepared for that.

That's fine, but if it does play out that way just please don't spend the next several seasons whining about how the team didn't do exactly what you wanted
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#663 » by KGdaBom » Mon Jul 28, 2025 11:07 pm

shangrila wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
shangrila wrote:I think everyone should prepare for Beringer to have a redshirt season

I am not prepared for that.

That's fine, but if it does play out that way just please don't spend the next several seasons whining about how the team didn't do exactly what you wanted

I don't expect the team to do exactly as I want. So of course I won't whine if they don't. I do expect them to do some things I wanted and one of them is to give meaningful minutes to Le Berricade and I'll be quite surprised if they don't.
What has to happen for you to consider this a redshirt year for him. I take it to mean zero meaningful minutes. Strictly garbage time barring multiple injuries.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#664 » by Note30 » Mon Jul 28, 2025 11:17 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
shangrila wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I am not prepared for that.

That's fine, but if it does play out that way just please don't spend the next several seasons whining about how the team didn't do exactly what you wanted

I don't expect the team to do exactly as I want. So of course I won't whine if they don't. I do expect them to do some things I wanted and one of them is to give meaningful minutes to Le Berricade and I'll be quite surprised if they don't.
What has to happen for you to consider this a redshirt year for him. I take it to mean zero meaningful minutes. Strictly garbage time barring multiple injuries.


Man every off season you have overly optimistic hopes for the team and every year they fall short. Just hope your optimism actually plays out correctly for once.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#665 » by KGdaBom » Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:54 am

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KGdaBom wrote:
shangrila wrote:That's fine, but if it does play out that way just please don't spend the next several seasons whining about how the team didn't do exactly what you wanted

I don't expect the team to do exactly as I want. So of course I won't whine if they don't. I do expect them to do some things I wanted and one of them is to give meaningful minutes to Le Berricade and I'll be quite surprised if they don't.
What has to happen for you to consider this a redshirt year for him. I take it to mean zero meaningful minutes. Strictly garbage time barring multiple injuries.


Man every off season you have overly optimistic hopes for the team and every year they fall short. Just hope your optimism actually plays out correctly for once.

Note I am almost always optimistic and we've done very well the last two years, so my optimism has correctly played out on multiple occasions not just for once. However nothing in the comment you replied to was particularly optimistic. I'm on record as expecting Le Berricade to earn meaningful minutes this year. If he doesn't I will be quite surprised. Maybe you won't be surprised. It's not a big deal either way.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#666 » by Loaf_of_bread » Tue Jul 29, 2025 3:04 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Note30 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I don't expect the team to do exactly as I want. So of course I won't whine if they don't. I do expect them to do some things I wanted and one of them is to give meaningful minutes to Le Berricade and I'll be quite surprised if they don't.
What has to happen for you to consider this a redshirt year for him. I take it to mean zero meaningful minutes. Strictly garbage time barring multiple injuries.


Man every off season you have overly optimistic hopes for the team and every year they fall short. Just hope your optimism actually plays out correctly for once.

Note I am almost always optimistic and we've done very well the last two years, so my optimism has correctly played out on multiple occasions not just for once. However nothing in the comment you replied to was particularly optimistic. I'm on record as expecting Le Berricade to earn meaningful minutes this year. If he doesn't I will be quite surprised. Maybe you won't be surprised. It's not a big deal either way.


No way he plays much if at all. Kgdabomb, who is our coach?
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#667 » by TimberKat » Tue Jul 29, 2025 4:43 am

Loaf_of_bread wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Note30 wrote:
Man every off season you have overly optimistic hopes for the team and every year they fall short. Just hope your optimism actually plays out correctly for once.

Note I am almost always optimistic and we've done very well the last two years, so my optimism has correctly played out on multiple occasions not just for once. However nothing in the comment you replied to was particularly optimistic. I'm on record as expecting Le Berricade to earn meaningful minutes this year. If he doesn't I will be quite surprised. Maybe you won't be surprised. It's not a big deal either way.


No way he plays much if at all. Kgdabomb, who is our coach?

I don't think it's the coach in this case. He is just not ready. If you just want someone go in and commit 6 fouls, that may work. He is not even Minnot level right now.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#668 » by cmoss84 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 6:50 am

My predictions for JB:

13 minutes/game
3.2 pts 4.7 rbs 1.7 stocks
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#669 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Tue Jul 29, 2025 7:22 am

cmoss84 wrote:My predictions for JB:

13 minutes/game
3.2 pts 4.7 rbs 1.7 stocks


Hope you're right. But considering how Finch is cautious with Rookie, he may have more DNP than minutes :)
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#670 » by KGdaBom » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:05 am

Loaf_of_bread wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Note30 wrote:
Man every off season you have overly optimistic hopes for the team and every year they fall short. Just hope your optimism actually plays out correctly for once.

Note I am almost always optimistic and we've done very well the last two years, so my optimism has correctly played out on multiple occasions not just for once. However nothing in the comment you replied to was particularly optimistic. I'm on record as expecting Le Berricade to earn meaningful minutes this year. If he doesn't I will be quite surprised. Maybe you won't be surprised. It's not a big deal either way.


No way he plays much if at all. Kgdabomb, who is our coach?

I'm confident he plays meaningful minutes this season. We shall see if I'm correct.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#671 » by KGdaBom » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:09 am

TimberKat wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Note I am almost always optimistic and we've done very well the last two years, so my optimism has correctly played out on multiple occasions not just for once. However nothing in the comment you replied to was particularly optimistic. I'm on record as expecting Le Berricade to earn meaningful minutes this year. If he doesn't I will be quite surprised. Maybe you won't be surprised. It's not a big deal either way.


No way he plays much if at all. Kgdabomb, who is our coach?

I don't think it's the coach in this case. He is just not ready. If you just want someone go in and commit 6 fouls, that may work. He is not even Minnot level right now.

Actually Le Berricade is very good at NOT fouling. IMO he is ready enough to be beneficial to the Wolves and will get meaningful minutes. He will continuously get more ready and more minutes until one day he will be a DPotY candidate.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#672 » by BlacJacMac » Tue Jul 29, 2025 3:43 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
TimberKat wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:
No way he plays much if at all. Kgdabomb, who is our coach?

I don't think it's the coach in this case. He is just not ready. If you just want someone go in and commit 6 fouls, that may work. He is not even Minnot level right now.

Actually Le Berricade is very good at NOT fouling. IMO he is ready enough to be beneficial to the Wolves and will get meaningful minutes. He will continuously get more ready and more minutes until one day he will be a DPotY candidate.


He was the first game. Less so the next few.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#673 » by Biff Cooper » Tue Jul 29, 2025 4:07 pm

Finch did give Ant a ton of minutes to Ant and McDaniels and even Naz Reid as young players. I think he said last year that he needed to give Randle and DDV as much PT as he could with the other core guys that it made it tough to give minutes to the young guys.

It seems like NAW leaving gives a path to more minutes for Dillingham / Shannon / Clark. I'm sure Dillingham is going to get some of Conley's minutes as we try to provide age management for Conley. Maybe Beringer will get some of Gobert's minutes due to age management as well. Other than that and taking a few minutes from Naz, Randle, and Gobert, there is not as easy of a path forward to Beringer minutes being available.

You never know what happens with injuries though. We were quite healthy last season.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#674 » by BlacJacMac » Tue Jul 29, 2025 4:54 pm

Biff Cooper wrote:Finch did give Ant a ton of minutes to Ant and McDaniels and even Naz Reid as young players. I think he said last year that he needed to give Randle and DDV as much PT as he could with the other core guys that it made it tough to give minutes to the young guys.

It seems like NAW leaving gives a path to more minutes for Dillingham / Shannon / Clark. I'm sure Dillingham is going to get some of Conley's minutes as we try to provide age management for Conley. Maybe Beringer will get some of Gobert's minutes due to age management as well. Other than that and taking a few minutes from Naz, Randle, and Gobert, there is not as easy of a path forward to Beringer minutes being available.

You never know what happens with injuries though. We were quite healthy last season.


Exactly. Jaden started 1 game as a rookie for Saunders. He got 26 starts once Finch took over.

TJ definitely deserved more minutes, but he was in a crunch behind Ant, NAW and DDV. Hard to blame him there.

Miller and Minott have shown nothing that says they should've played more.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#675 » by Biff Cooper » Tue Jul 29, 2025 6:05 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
Biff Cooper wrote:Finch did give Ant a ton of minutes to Ant and McDaniels and even Naz Reid as young players. I think he said last year that he needed to give Randle and DDV as much PT as he could with the other core guys that it made it tough to give minutes to the young guys.

It seems like NAW leaving gives a path to more minutes for Dillingham / Shannon / Clark. I'm sure Dillingham is going to get some of Conley's minutes as we try to provide age management for Conley. Maybe Beringer will get some of Gobert's minutes due to age management as well. Other than that and taking a few minutes from Naz, Randle, and Gobert, there is not as easy of a path forward to Beringer minutes being available.

You never know what happens with injuries though. We were quite healthy last season.


Exactly. Jaden started 1 game as a rookie for Saunders. He got 26 starts once Finch took over.

TJ definitely deserved more minutes, but he was in a crunch behind Ant, NAW and DDV. Hard to blame him there.

Miller and Minott have shown nothing that says they should've played more.


Also, last year we traded Towns' 32.7 mpg for DiVincenzo's 25.9 mpg + Randle's 32.3 mpg. This ate up 25.5 mpg that would have normally been available for the young guys.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#676 » by Folklore » Tue Jul 29, 2025 6:35 pm

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#677 » by KGdaBom » Tue Jul 29, 2025 7:17 pm

Biff Cooper wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
Biff Cooper wrote:Finch did give Ant a ton of minutes to Ant and McDaniels and even Naz Reid as young players. I think he said last year that he needed to give Randle and DDV as much PT as he could with the other core guys that it made it tough to give minutes to the young guys.

It seems like NAW leaving gives a path to more minutes for Dillingham / Shannon / Clark. I'm sure Dillingham is going to get some of Conley's minutes as we try to provide age management for Conley. Maybe Beringer will get some of Gobert's minutes due to age management as well. Other than that and taking a few minutes from Naz, Randle, and Gobert, there is not as easy of a path forward to Beringer minutes being available.

You never know what happens with injuries though. We were quite healthy last season.


Exactly. Jaden started 1 game as a rookie for Saunders. He got 26 starts once Finch took over.

TJ definitely deserved more minutes, but he was in a crunch behind Ant, NAW and DDV. Hard to blame him there.

Miller and Minott have shown nothing that says they should've played more.


Also, last year we traded Towns' 32.7 mpg for DiVincenzo's 25.9 mpg + Randle's 32.3 mpg. This ate up 25.5 mpg that would have normally been available for the young guys.

Great point.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#678 » by Slim Tubby » Tue Jul 29, 2025 9:47 pm

Biff Cooper wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
Biff Cooper wrote:Finch did give Ant a ton of minutes to Ant and McDaniels and even Naz Reid as young players. I think he said last year that he needed to give Randle and DDV as much PT as he could with the other core guys that it made it tough to give minutes to the young guys.

It seems like NAW leaving gives a path to more minutes for Dillingham / Shannon / Clark. I'm sure Dillingham is going to get some of Conley's minutes as we try to provide age management for Conley. Maybe Beringer will get some of Gobert's minutes due to age management as well. Other than that and taking a few minutes from Naz, Randle, and Gobert, there is not as easy of a path forward to Beringer minutes being available.

You never know what happens with injuries though. We were quite healthy last season.


Exactly. Jaden started 1 game as a rookie for Saunders. He got 26 starts once Finch took over.

TJ definitely deserved more minutes, but he was in a crunch behind Ant, NAW and DDV. Hard to blame him there.

Miller and Minott have shown nothing that says they should've played more.


Also, last year we traded Towns' 32.7 mpg for DiVincenzo's 25.9 mpg + Randle's 32.3 mpg. This ate up 25.5 mpg that would have normally been available for the young guys.
Excellent point, Biff...never thought about it that way.

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#679 » by Klomp » Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:41 pm

If Finch was truly as anti-young player as everyone thinks he is, all of the minutes that went to Dillingham, Shannon, Minott and Clark last regular season would have went to Joe Ingles and Mike Conley or simply not used that extra spot in the rotation.

Yes, Finch can be reluctant, but it has more to do with being mistake-prone than just being young. If guys play the right way, they typically earn minutes no matter how inexperienced they may be.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#680 » by shrink » Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:49 pm

Biff Cooper wrote:Finch did give Ant a ton of minutes to Ant and McDaniels and even Naz Reid as young players. I think he said last year that he needed to give Randle and DDV as much PT as he could with the other core guys that it made it tough to give minutes to the young guys.

It seems like NAW leaving gives a path to more minutes for Dillingham / Shannon / Clark. I'm sure Dillingham is going to get some of Conley's minutes as we try to provide age management for Conley. Maybe Beringer will get some of Gobert's minutes due to age management as well. Other than that and taking a few minutes from Naz, Randle, and Gobert, there is not as easy of a path forward to Beringer minutes being available.

You never know what happens with injuries though. We were quite healthy last season.

Good post. And you’re right, Connelly and Finch talked a lot about how they WERE going to play Dillingham and Shannon Jr a lot as rookies, but like you said, the KAT trade forced them to change their plans. I think for any coach, the higher the draft position, the more likely they get minutes in Year One.

It’s tough though with Beringer’s lack of experience. And who knows if he would be so overwhelmed by NBA size and speed that it broke him? My hope though is that his natural talent is so apparent in training camp, and his growth rate so fast, that he gets the Center #2 role. Both Naz and Randle would benefit from a player with Beringer’s skillset when Rudy is off the floor.

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