SHAMS: Malik Beasley under investigation for gambling

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Re: SHAMS: Malik Beasley under investigation for gambling 

Post#181 » by CS707 » Thu Aug 7, 2025 7:40 pm

Rafael122 wrote:I’m sure this is happening a lot more than the NBA is admitting and honestly it’s as a result of all the gambling ads, commercials, etc. Just nasty work all around.


The ads are just catering to a market that has always existed and always will exist. People need to own their actions.
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Re: SHAMS: Malik Beasley under investigation for gambling 

Post#182 » by The4thHorseman » Fri Aug 8, 2025 6:14 pm

NBA free agent Malik Beasley, who is under investigation in a federal gambling probe, was evicted from his high-rise apartment in Detroit on Wednesday, according to court records.

Beasley's landlord sued him twice this year in Michigan's 36th District Court for a total of $21,505 in unpaid rent, the records show. The first case was dismissed in March, but the court issued an eviction order in the second suit -- for $7,355 -- after Beasley failed to respond.

Beasley's attorney, Steve Haney, did not immediately respond to ESPN's request for comment. Beasley's social media posts in recent weeks indicate that he has been traveling in Europe.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45926495/beasley-subject-gambling-probe-evicted-apartment
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Re: SHAMS: Malik Beasley under investigation for gambling 

Post#183 » by Hornet Mania » Fri Aug 8, 2025 6:29 pm

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Rafael122 wrote:I’m sure this is happening a lot more than the NBA is admitting and honestly it’s as a result of all the gambling ads, commercials, etc. Just nasty work all around.


The ads are just catering to a market that has always existed and always will exist. People need to own their actions.


The ads are not catering to a market that already existed though. The market that previously existed didn't rely on ads at all, it was mostly illegal, at least in the USA. That market could and would exist with legal gambling companies that were restricted from advertising.

The ads are to draw in new players to grow the sports gambling industry.

Personally I think the nice middle ground should be similar to tobacco. You can buy it but you can't advertise it. If you need a cig you know where to find it, likewise with placing a bet. No need to push it aggressively because, like tobacco, it does have a deleterious effect on individuals and society as a whole. Best option is to honor personal freedom but draw the line at advertisement to not promote industry growth.
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Re: SHAMS: Malik Beasley under investigation for gambling 

Post#184 » by zero rings » Fri Aug 8, 2025 7:10 pm

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Rafael122 wrote:I’m sure this is happening a lot more than the NBA is admitting and honestly it’s as a result of all the gambling ads, commercials, etc. Just nasty work all around.


The ads are just catering to a market that has always existed and always will exist. People need to own their actions.


A market for hard drugs has always existed, too. That doesn’t exonerate the drug dealers.
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Re: SHAMS: Malik Beasley under investigation for gambling 

Post#185 » by CS707 » Fri Aug 8, 2025 8:36 pm

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Rafael122 wrote:I’m sure this is happening a lot more than the NBA is admitting and honestly it’s as a result of all the gambling ads, commercials, etc. Just nasty work all around.


The ads are just catering to a market that has always existed and always will exist. People need to own their actions.


A market for hard drugs has always existed, too. That doesn’t exonerate the drug dealers.


Addictive behavior is addictive behavior. It’s a pretty slippery slope if you’re starting to go after marketing that touches on a demographic that has self control issues.
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Re: SHAMS: Malik Beasley under investigation for gambling 

Post#186 » by zero rings » Fri Aug 8, 2025 10:36 pm

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The ads are just catering to a market that has always existed and always will exist. People need to own their actions.


A market for hard drugs has always existed, too. That doesn’t exonerate the drug dealers.


Addictive behavior is addictive behavior. It’s a pretty slippery slope if you’re starting to go after marketing that touches on a demographic that has self control issues.


If they ban gambling (again), 95% of gamblers would simply stop. Most people aren’t going to do it if you have to go through illegal channels.

I don’t care about a slippery slope, whatever that means. Stop promoting vice and ruining people’s lives.
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Post#187 » by CS707 » Fri Aug 8, 2025 10:57 pm

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A market for hard drugs has always existed, too. That doesn’t exonerate the drug dealers.


Addictive behavior is addictive behavior. It’s a pretty slippery slope if you’re starting to go after marketing that touches on a demographic that has self control issues.


If they ban gambling (again), 95% of gamblers would simply stop. Most people aren’t going to do it if you have to go through illegal channels.

I don’t care about a slippery slope, whatever that means. Stop promoting vice and ruining people’s lives.


How many bets have you placed because of a commercial? None for me but if I was so inclined, why should I not be able to because someone else has no self control? America has an obesity epidemic. Should we ban McDonalds? How about people just accept some personal responsibility instead?
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Re: SHAMS: Malik Beasley under investigation for gambling 

Post#188 » by MrBigShot » Fri Aug 8, 2025 11:11 pm

CS707 wrote:
zero rings wrote:
CS707 wrote:
Addictive behavior is addictive behavior. It’s a pretty slippery slope if you’re starting to go after marketing that touches on a demographic that has self control issues.


If they ban gambling (again), 95% of gamblers would simply stop. Most people aren’t going to do it if you have to go through illegal channels.

I don’t care about a slippery slope, whatever that means. Stop promoting vice and ruining people’s lives.


How many bets have you placed because of a commercial? None for me but if I was so inclined, why should I not be able to because someone else has no self control? America has an obesity epidemic. Should we ban McDonalds? How about people just accept some personal responsibility instead?


Just for the sake of playing devil's advocate, because I do partially agree with you that there has to be personal accountability, fast food provides convenience and can be consumed in moderation. Things like sports gambling or smoking cigarettes have no sort of positives to them. At least at the casino, there is the novelty of the "experience" of playing casino games.

I have a few friends that are BIG into sports betting and watching any sporting event with them is obnoxious, they are talking about parlays the entire.
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Re: SHAMS: Malik Beasley under investigation for gambling 

Post#189 » by azcatz11 » Fri Aug 8, 2025 11:16 pm

MrBigShot wrote:
CS707 wrote:
zero rings wrote:
If they ban gambling (again), 95% of gamblers would simply stop. Most people aren’t going to do it if you have to go through illegal channels.

I don’t care about a slippery slope, whatever that means. Stop promoting vice and ruining people’s lives.


How many bets have you placed because of a commercial? None for me but if I was so inclined, why should I not be able to because someone else has no self control? America has an obesity epidemic. Should we ban McDonalds? How about people just accept some personal responsibility instead?


Just for the sake of playing devil's advocate, because I do partially agree with you that there has to be personal accountability, fast food provides convenience and can be consumed in moderation. Things like sports gambling or smoking cigarettes have no sort of positives to them. At least at the casino, there is the novelty of the "experience" of playing casino games.

I have a few friends that are BIG into sports betting and watching any sporting event with them is obnoxious, they are talking about parlays the entire.


Unfortunately I see it in the game threads on here. There are a few very addicted, sick individuals who constantly post their picks
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Post#190 » by CS707 » Fri Aug 8, 2025 11:30 pm

MrBigShot wrote:
CS707 wrote:
zero rings wrote:
If they ban gambling (again), 95% of gamblers would simply stop. Most people aren’t going to do it if you have to go through illegal channels.

I don’t care about a slippery slope, whatever that means. Stop promoting vice and ruining people’s lives.


How many bets have you placed because of a commercial? None for me but if I was so inclined, why should I not be able to because someone else has no self control? America has an obesity epidemic. Should we ban McDonalds? How about people just accept some personal responsibility instead?


Just for the sake of playing devil's advocate, because I do partially agree with you that there has to be personal accountability, fast food provides convenience and can be consumed in moderation. Things like sports gambling or smoking cigarettes have no sort of positives to them. At least at the casino, there is the novelty of the "experience" of playing casino games.

I have a few friends that are BIG into sports betting and watching any sporting event with them is obnoxious, they are talking about parlays the entire.


It’s definitely a bro thing and nothing of value would be lost if gambling went away forever. I really should have just left it alone, I just get tired of the it’s everyone else’s fault attitude.
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Post#191 » by hardenASG13 » Sat Aug 9, 2025 12:29 am

CS707 wrote:
zero rings wrote:
CS707 wrote:
Addictive behavior is addictive behavior. It’s a pretty slippery slope if you’re starting to go after marketing that touches on a demographic that has self control issues.


If they ban gambling (again), 95% of gamblers would simply stop. Most people aren’t going to do it if you have to go through illegal channels.

I don’t care about a slippery slope, whatever that means. Stop promoting vice and ruining people’s lives.


How many bets have you placed because of a commercial? None for me but if I was so inclined, why should I not be able to because someone else has no self control? America has an obesity epidemic. Should we ban McDonalds? How about people just accept some personal responsibility instead?


Exactly. Sports betting/fantasy is very enjoyable and enhances the watching experience if done responsibly. It's very enjoyable for a ton of sports fans.
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Post#192 » by durden_tyler » Sat Aug 9, 2025 1:23 am

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MrBigShot wrote:
CS707 wrote:
How many bets have you placed because of a commercial? None for me but if I was so inclined, why should I not be able to because someone else has no self control? America has an obesity epidemic. Should we ban McDonalds? How about people just accept some personal responsibility instead?


Just for the sake of playing devil's advocate, because I do partially agree with you that there has to be personal accountability, fast food provides convenience and can be consumed in moderation. Things like sports gambling or smoking cigarettes have no sort of positives to them. At least at the casino, there is the novelty of the "experience" of playing casino games.

I have a few friends that are BIG into sports betting and watching any sporting event with them is obnoxious, they are talking about parlays the entire.


Unfortunately I see it in the game threads on here. There are a few very addicted, sick individuals who constantly post their picks


So, who are your picks in the NFL this year? Preaseason game odds also available now. LOL
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Re: SHAMS: Malik Beasley under investigation for gambling 

Post#193 » by zero rings » Sat Aug 9, 2025 5:06 am

CS707 wrote:
zero rings wrote:
CS707 wrote:
Addictive behavior is addictive behavior. It’s a pretty slippery slope if you’re starting to go after marketing that touches on a demographic that has self control issues.


If they ban gambling (again), 95% of gamblers would simply stop. Most people aren’t going to do it if you have to go through illegal channels.

I don’t care about a slippery slope, whatever that means. Stop promoting vice and ruining people’s lives.


How many bets have you placed because of a commercial? None for me but if I was so inclined, why should I not be able to because someone else has no self control? America has an obesity epidemic. Should we ban McDonalds? How about people just accept some personal responsibility instead?


The sad reality is that most people don't have much self-control, and they need to be saved from themselves. The human brain is not equipped to deal with the endless supply of dopamine hits available in the modern world. It's a breeding ground for addiction.

Instead of hoping that everyone develops a strong sense of personality responsibility (not gonna happen), we should just ban the vice dealers and save the world a lot of suffering.
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Post#194 » by firedavidkahn » Tue Aug 12, 2025 11:08 pm

MPJ, you are officially on the radar.
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Post#195 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Tue Aug 12, 2025 11:45 pm

firedavidkahn wrote:MPJ, you are officially on the radar.
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Any logical player can think like this. That’s why gambling on team and individual stats is crazy because it’s just going to tempt some players and their inner circle.
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Post#196 » by MrBigShot » Tue Aug 12, 2025 11:46 pm

MPJ is not very bright. Bro has a comical tendency to overshare every time he talks.
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Post#197 » by azcatz11 » Tue Aug 12, 2025 11:50 pm

If you’re an nba player you should never talk about gambling. Theres too much too lose. MPJ is a moron. His live streams are interesting however
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Post#198 » by Ruma85 » Tue Aug 12, 2025 11:51 pm

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
firedavidkahn wrote:MPJ, you are officially on the radar.
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Any logical player can think like this. That’s why gambling on team and individual stats is crazy because it’s just going to tempt some players and their inner circle.


Regardless, if Porter said this, he definitely shouldn't say it publicly.
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Post#199 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Wed Aug 13, 2025 12:02 am

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firedavidkahn wrote:MPJ, you are officially on the radar.
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Any logical player can think like this. That’s why gambling on team and individual stats is crazy because it’s just going to tempt some players and their inner circle.


Regardless, if Porter said this, he definitely shouldn't say it publicly.

Why? If he answers a question that talks about the concern of gambling, it would open up a conversation between the league and players. What he said is probably what everyone else is thinking. Actually, what he said is what everyone else has been echoing. It’s so easy for inner circles to get inside information on how a player feels or players to feel beholden to them and give them tidbits that can help them make money. That’s the reality that all players are facing now. It doesn’t mean that they are going to give into it or gamble.
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Post#200 » by Ruma85 » Wed Aug 13, 2025 12:12 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
Ruma85 wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Any logical player can think like this. That’s why gambling on team and individual stats is crazy because it’s just going to tempt some players and their inner circle.


Regardless, if Porter said this, he definitely shouldn't say it publicly.

Why? If he answers a question that talks about the concern of gambling, it would open up a conversation between the league and players. What he said is probably what everyone else is thinking. Actually, what he said is what everyone else has been echoing. It’s so easy for inner circles to get inside information on how a player feels or players to feel beholden to them and give them tidbits that can help them make money. That’s the reality that all players are facing now. It doesn’t mean that they are going to give into it or gamble.


Because his implying, that his considering it.
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