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Is the record for real?

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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#21 » by anj » Tue Jul 8, 2025 1:56 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:Just looking at the playoff picture. With Detroit and Houston playing over .600 ball, the East division winner is probably going to be playing in the wild card series regardless. So it really doesn't matter if Jays win the East. All we have to do to basically guarantee a wild card spot is play .500 ball the rest of the way, taking us to 88-89 wins. With pitcher pick ups at the deadline and returns from the IR, that seems doable.


Also, Houston and Detroit have the second- and fourth-easiest remaining schedules in the league the rest of the way.
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#22 » by Parataxis » Tue Jul 8, 2025 3:19 pm

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Randle McMurphy wrote:Not really, no. But they've also been missing probably their 1st or 2nd most valuable player for almost all of the season (Varsho), a guy who is a good starter when healthy (Scherzer) and a guy who in theory should be a good contributor with the bat (Santander).

At full health, they are better than the underlying numbers suggest. They still badly need another good SP to take them seriously as a contender though.


Not feeling overly confident in Scherzer. He was always a gamble, and we are seeing that gamble not working out yet. Maybe Manoah makes it back and turn the career around in August?



Honestly, even if he only makes ~16 appearances I'm still glad we signed him. The mentorship that he's giving to the pitching staff is invaluable as well.
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#23 » by Parataxis » Tue Jul 8, 2025 3:23 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:Just looking at the playoff picture. With Detroit and Houston playing over .600 ball, the East division winner is probably going to be playing in the wild card series regardless. So it really doesn't matter if Jays win the East. All we have to do to basically guarantee a wild card spot is play .500 ball the rest of the way, taking us to 88-89 wins. With pitcher pick ups at the deadline and returns from the IR, that seems doable.


I mean, as of right now, we're closer to overtaking the Astros than of having the Yankees or the Rays overtake us.

Lots of baseball left to play, but that applies to Houston as much as it does to us, so I'm not taking anything, good or bad, for granted.
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#24 » by johanliebert » Tue Jul 8, 2025 5:03 pm

You guys refuse to enjoy the ride lmao
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#25 » by Potential » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:00 pm

2nd most wins against teams above .500

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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#26 » by T-d0t » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:40 pm

What if the Yankees just aren't as good as they showed early? Their offense carried them early in the season.
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#27 » by Kingsway_fan » Sat Jul 12, 2025 8:15 am

Not a baseball fan/follower. Question. HOW DID VLAD MAKE ALLSTAR GAME?... he's not top tier in hits, hr, rbi... just trying to figure it out...
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#28 » by JaysRule15 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:46 pm

Kingsway_fan wrote:Not a baseball fan/follower. Question. HOW DID VLAD MAKE ALLSTAR GAME?... he's not top tier in hits, hr, rbi... just trying to figure it out...


The starters for the ASG is a fan vote I believe.
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#29 » by Kingsway_fan » Sun Jul 13, 2025 6:35 pm

JaysRule15 wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:Not a baseball fan/follower. Question. HOW DID VLAD MAKE ALLSTAR GAME?... he's not top tier in hits, hr, rbi... just trying to figure it out...


The starters for the ASG is a fan vote I believe.


Ah.. got it...
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#30 » by dchoye » Mon Aug 4, 2025 7:27 pm

Still 1st in the division
3 games ahead of the Red Sox
With +19 run differential

This team is for real
We win a lots of close games and get blown out when we lose
Let’s see if the trades makes us better then the rest of the league
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#31 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Aug 5, 2025 6:40 pm

Kingsway_fan wrote:
JaysRule15 wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:Not a baseball fan/follower. Question. HOW DID VLAD MAKE ALLSTAR GAME?... he's not top tier in hits, hr, rbi... just trying to figure it out...


The starters for the ASG is a fan vote I believe.


Ah.. got it...


He's still deserving of an All-Star nod.
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#32 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Aug 6, 2025 2:22 pm

JaysRule15 wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:Not a baseball fan/follower. Question. HOW DID VLAD MAKE ALLSTAR GAME?... he's not top tier in hits, hr, rbi... just trying to figure it out...


The starters for the ASG is a fan vote I believe.


Ya it’s not like the NBA where it’s only 50% fan votes? Or whatever rule they decide for that all star break. Keeps changing it seems
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#33 » by Raps in 4 » Thu Aug 7, 2025 7:15 am

Potential wrote:2nd most wins against teams above .500

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Post#34 » by raptorforlife88 » Thu Aug 7, 2025 3:38 pm

Jays lead the league in fWAR, and are second in wRC+ as of today. They have the most defensive value added. They've been both elite at hitting and at fielding. Yes the record is for real.

They now also have improved bullpen depth, and Chad Green is gone. Gausman has rounded back into form. Lauer has been shockingly good including the peripherals. If Shane Bieber really has his velocity and stuff back and pitches like he did a couple of years ago we will make a run.
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#35 » by Parataxis » Thu Aug 7, 2025 3:55 pm

So here's the weirdness of this Jays team. We're sitting at .586 - not bad. But we're actually BETTER against good teams. We're currently 38-25 (a .603 clip) against teams >.500

If we'd stop playing down to teams like Baltimore and Tampa, we'd be sailing.
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#36 » by bluerap23 » Thu Aug 7, 2025 7:14 pm

Parataxis wrote:So here's the weirdness of this Jays team. We're sitting at .586 - not bad. But we're actually BETTER against good teams. We're currently 38-25 (a .603 clip) against teams >.500

If we'd stop playing down to teams like Baltimore and Tampa, we'd be sailing.


Luckily we won't have to face bad teams in the playoffs.
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#37 » by JCP11 » Fri Aug 8, 2025 1:32 pm

Parataxis wrote:So here's the weirdness of this Jays team. We're sitting at .586 - not bad. But we're actually BETTER against good teams. We're currently 38-25 (a .603 clip) against teams >.500

If we'd stop playing down to teams like Baltimore and Tampa, we'd be sailing.

There's still a lot of inexperienced guys in this lineup, consistency in the MLB is the toughest thing to attain. They were still figuring out who they were with all the injuries, now guys are coming back we should see more consistency.
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#38 » by bartron_44 » Mon Aug 11, 2025 2:55 pm

I think the roster is golden without Gimenez and Santander. France has effectively replaced Springer so far. That lineup looks a little different against the Dodgers (and moving forward) with Springer in the OF instead of Straw. Wouldnt have made a difference with the runs they gave up, but this lineup could still get even better.


1B- Vlad-(.884)
2B- Clement(.959 vs LHP)/Gimenez (.698 vs RHP)
3B- Barger(.828)
SS-Bo(.807)
LF- Loperfido(.966)
CF-Varsho(.873)
RF-Springer(.889)
DH-France(.919)/Lukes (.768)/Schneider(.826)
C-Kirk (.754)/Heineman(.915)


Now that is a playoff type lineup. Against LHP it is actually kind of ridiculous what they can thrownout there..
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#39 » by bluerap23 » Mon Aug 11, 2025 3:53 pm

bartron_44 wrote:I think the roster is golden without Gimenez and Santander. France has effectively replaced Springer so far. That lineup looks a little different against the Dodgers (and moving forward) with Springer in the OF instead of Straw. Wouldnt have made a difference with the runs they gave up, but this lineup could still get even better.


1B- Vlad-(.884)
2B- Clement(.959 vs LHP)/Gimenez (.698 vs RHP)
3B- Barger(.828)
SS-Bo(.807)
LF- Loperfido(.966)
CF-Varsho(.873)
RF-Springer(.889)
DH-France(.919)/Lukes (.768)/Schneider(.826)
C-Kirk (.754)/Heineman(.915)


Now that is a playoff type lineup. Against LHP it is actually kind of ridiculous what they can thrownout there..


This would be my ideal if we can get fully healthy

Vs Righties
1. Lukes RF L
2. Vlad 1B R
3. Barger 3B L
4. Bo SS R
5. Springer DH R
6. Loperfido LF L
7. Kirk C R
8. Varsho CF L
9. Giminez 2B L

Vs Lefties
1. Clement 3B R
2. Vlad 1B R
3. Springer LF R
4. Bo SS R
5. Kirk C R
6. Santander RF S
7. France DH S
8. Schneider 2B R
9. Varsho CF L
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Re: Is the record for real? 

Post#40 » by bartron_44 » Tue Aug 12, 2025 10:08 pm

I want Barger in there everyday. Im already skeptical giving Gimenez a regular role after his long layoff and lack of performance this year.

I dont see Santander coming back this year from the looks of it. So I dont think I need to worry about that potential disaster.

Even without either of the FA bats they acquired this offseason , the lineup will be stacked against both lefties and rhps.

Does Popkins deserve a raise?

It also sounds like the plan is to Yesavage available out of the bullpen in September.

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