3toheadmelo wrote:spree8 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:I disagree heavily. There’s a bunch of times he wasn’t in drop that he got exposed on an island. So the eye test matches the metrics. Look we don’t need to act like KAT is a good defender, he’s just terrible lol what are we doing here spree
You said the other day that we mainly beat Boston because they were injured, not because we played 5 out
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thats such a reach. I didn’t say we beat Boston because they were injured. That’s a massive oversimplification and misrepresentation. Not only that, but beating them at their own game doesn’t get tossed in the garbage because we beat a bit easier version of them. Come on lol… it was the very version people made the comment about.
Never said he was Scottie Pippen on defense, but he’s not inept either.. passes most peoples eye test here. He’s solid enough for us to play him at the 5 with the right schemes and benefits us greatly on offense at the 5 as well.
What I saw all season was criminal use of him and others on both sides of the ball. Putting KAT at the 4 and not maximizing the advantages he gives us is more of the same Thibs logic that will prevent us from winning a title…
So you're saying we beat Boston because of Thibs willingess to beat Boston at their own game
Absolute masterclass by Thibs.
But back to your point about KAT at the 4, yeah ima have to disagree there heavily fam. He's absolutely terrible defensively at the 5, no matter what the scheme is. Timberwolves tried all of that and ended up paying a premium for Gobert because of how bad KAT was.
Spinning it to give all the glory to Thibs… dirty move, but well played.. respect lol
KAT at the 5 tho, it’s not so cut n dry with his time in Minny… they didn’t have our personnel or use them this way, so it wouldn’t be apples to apples.
It comes down to the numbers really…. How much would he be costing us on defense vs the advantages he gives on offense? If we significantly up our 3pt attempts and start Deuce over Hart, how much does that also help Jalen? How much more efficient could he be without being doubled so much? Putting the ball in Mikal’s hands more (with Hart out the lineup) as a P&R initiator, how much better does that improve the offense and efficiency too, since we’re not relying on Jalen to do too much… not to mention, when Randle was here, Jalen showed he was very effective off ball.
With elite perimeter defenders in Deuce, Mikal, and OG, is rim protection as important? Having a switch-heavy defense we’d be less inclined to be trading 3’s for 2’s as well like we did all year...
I’m not married to this concept, like if it don’t work, by all means try something else, switch things up, adjust, experiment to try to unlock what will work (different things will work against different teams too). But sticking with 1 way and 1 way only despite it not working isn’t the solution, and that’s why Thibs is gone. Had he tried what he did against Boston all season, along with other changes, he might still be here.
I just think we should be taking that approach to start the season with the starters (because Deuce in place of Hart had very good results), and yes, KAT and Mitch should have time together as well. Brown should be trying all types of lineups with his rotations, same with schemes on defense… try some zone too with the double bigs. It seems like Brown will be open to trying out a bunch of variations like most good coaches do, so that’s all I can ask for.
