vvoland wrote:Old_Blue wrote:Larry Ellison wrote:It was more than that. It's been a while. I paid attention when it was happening. I am just going off my recollections. She was bragging on social media about hooking up with Josh. It was the inadvertent public disclosure of an inappropriate relationship that brought it to a screaching halt. She was 15 years old and didn't realize the potential consequences by posting on IG that she just f*ed Josh Giddey. I only know what I saw online so I could be wrong. My impression was they were a thing, not a one night stand, both were ok with it, and it was only her dumb social media post that ended it.Larry Ellison wrote:She posted on IG "I just f*ed Josh Giddey." That is a fact. The post was rapidly deleted. But I saw the screen capture myself at the time. Nothing is ever truly deleted on the Internet. She was bragging. She was immature. This was the catalyst for the entire investigation. Beyond that, I don't like to speculate about factual issues that I don't have personal knowledge of. My uninformed speculation is that things were going swimmingly and he would have continued the relationship with her if it had not been publicly exposed. But it was. I was expecting criminal prosecution and NBA discipline. It never happened. The girl refused to cooperate. I don't blame her parents for wanting to shut it down instead of create a spectacle with a trial. She was a wild child and a willing participant in the relationship. Josh was 19. He should have known better and found a different girl.
You have represented yourself as a lawyer. These are statements unbecoming of the profession. Quite frankly, they constitute victim shaming. I'd like to also point out that your recollection of the matter is faulty. Giddey was 21 - not 19 - at the time of the "relationship" in question.
https://www.foxla.com/news/nba-star-josh-giddey-investigation-newport-beach-pd-alleged-relationship-minor
It gets worse with every post. He was 21, not 19. It wasn't just a club night meetup, it was a months long relationship that ended when it became public. At least the conversation exposed folks for what they are. The Internet is a wild place that allows people to express their true feelings without the fear of repercussions. I doubt Evan is defending Giddey, pedophilia, or sex with minors in a face to face conversation, in a public space, or with friends and family. The anonymity of the internet certainly provides a place for it, though.
It's not pedophilia. It is morally objectionable and illegal conduct. Respectfully, I think the back and forth between you and Evan is not connected in any way to whether Josh Giddey would be a good addition to the Warriors. Gently suggest you guys let it fade away.