Official Brandon Ingram Thread

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

What market, tho.

Is your thought process here that because only BKN had $20m in cap space in FA, that BI should've only gotten a $20m contract? Am I understanding you correctly?

He is ignoring that Ingram also has a a say in negotations.

Maybe he WAS open to a 1 year, $25M "bet on yourself" deal. But if we wanted to lock him up for 2 years he wanted $38M.

It is like posters dont realize that players have their own motivates and aspirations that would drive their decision making as well.

Rich Paul said Max. I tuned out.

[Duffman100]

He has done it on a 49 win team in the past. 49 wins in the East this year might get you HCA.

The odds of him playing 60 games? Slim, right. Also, Zion.

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[youngRAPZ]

He has done it on a 49 win team in the past. 49 wins in the East this year might get you HCA.

The odds of him playing 60 games? Slim, right. Also, Zion.

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It’s not even just negative lol he’s literally trolling with two word responses to paragraphs. He doesn’t actually believe the bs he is saying he’s just saying it because he is getting a rise out of people.


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[MEDIC]

Who cares about Gradey or Walter's value right now if you are not looking to trade them anyways.

Maybe adding a #1 scoring option prompts them to even work harder or maybe they learn from a more natural shooter...something the Raps lack.

Some people clearly just want to complain just to complain.

Gradey has had a ton of opportunity. If he steps up, he becomes a legit part of the rotation. Jakobe fits into any rotation.

If either of these guys want to be legit starters or more, then they have to go the Pascal Siakam & FVV route, put in the work & earn it.

I am over giving kids minutes who haven't done the work necessary to elevate their status as players in the league.

Its back to winning time. Time for the kids to grow up. No participation medals.

[JB7]

IDK, it kind of kills Grady and Walter's Value. Not to mention RJ.

It's a head scratcher for me.

It would raise their value if anything, good players doing good things in good situations get a bump not a decrease. GMs will say we can get more out of him with more PT/USG/Role/Mins in the case of GD & Walter. RJs value will obviously look better if he's lower on the pecking order & affecting/contributing positively, especially if efficiency improves

Less minutes, less results. IMO

In 2023-24, in 32 games with the Raps, RJ played slightly more minutes per game than in 2024-25 (because the Raps were more clearly tanking). So averaged 33.5 mins/game in 2023-24, and 32.2 mins/game in 2024-25. But he took less shots in 2023-24 (15.4/game) than in 2024-25 (16.9/game), and was much more efficient (TS% of .615 in 2023-24 vs .547 in 2024-25). Why? When he first joined the Raps, and they still had Pascal, they had him focus on doing two things: shooting limited open 3's (3.8 attempts/game, when other seasons he has averaged over 5 attempts forcing shots), and driving to the basket (11.6 2PA attempts/game, which would mostly be at the basket - his second highest attempts per game).

So minutes relatively the same, but less shots and more production.

It is possible, and now the coach has something to preach to RJ. That kind of production will get him paid.

[JB7]

Personally, I like cheap. Cheap didn't cost us a pick.

Except it did.

Gradey cost #13. Walter #19.

You just can't comprehend that we aquired a #1 scoring option for a similar aquisition cost...but #1 scoring options get paid.

But don't worry, we still have Gradey and Walter to be #6/#7 scoring options.

We likely got Ingram for somewhere between the 13-20th pick in a draft. But as you said, for some reason people cant comprehend that.

On a play in team, maybe.

He has done it on a 49 win team in the past. 49 wins in the East this year might get you HCA.

About the point on where the Indy pick will end up. If the Raps still controlled that pick, no way Indy lets Turner walk, and they set themselves up for a 1 year tank. The reason they went and re-acquired their pick, is to put themselves in a position to tank this season, if the opportunity presents itself. Yet another stupid move by New Orleans - why would they agree to swapping the picks, with the timing of that call, during the finals with Hali potentially hurt.

[Tripod]

Who cares about Gradey or Walter's value right now if you are not looking to trade them anyways.

Maybe adding a #1 scoring option prompts them to even work harder or maybe they learn from a more natural shooter...something the Raps lack.

Some people clearly just want to complain just to complain.

Gradey has had a ton of opportunity. If he steps up, he becomes a legit part of the rotation. Jakobe fits into any rotation.

If either of these guys want to be legit starters or more, then they have to go the Pascal Siakam & FVV route, put in the work & earn it.

I am over giving kids minutes who haven't done the work necessary to elevate their status as players in the league.

Its back to winning time. Time for the kids to grow up. No participation medals.

Agreed.

But we are also talking about 2 21 year olds to start the season. They both can be rotation guys now but you don't pass on acquiring a #1 option because of them.

If anything, Ingram can bridge the gap to when both of them hopefully are even better in 2 years.

It's not complicated. The Raps know it's hard to get UFA'S to come there. So they try and add undervalued guys via trade that they can develop more, try and get better health from, etc... They did it with Lowry. And Kawhi. And Ochai. And now are doing it with IQ, RJ and BI.

But for the 1002nd time, you don't get healthy BI for a 1st. You pay the Siakam cost...3 1sts, more term, and higher cap hit.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

He has done it on a 49 win team in the past. 49 wins in the East this year might get you HCA.

The odds of him playing 60 games? Slim, right. Also, Zion.

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Better?

[Tha Cynic]

-Signed to a reasonable contract
-Theoretically will move everyone on the Raptors one slot back on offense
-Shoots the 3 well
-Can take over go to scorer option
-Will be looking to prove himself
-Great personality from all accounts
-has shown some good moments including in playoffs and played on good teams
-Raptors were not getting a better player for that price and trade value
- eastern conference vs western conference


I don’t see much to dislike. Obviously injuries will be the biggest concern

[HiJiNX]

The odds of him playing 60 games? Slim, right. Also, Zion.

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Better?

Be better.

[bballsparkin]

I wasn't a fan of the BI trade. I'd rather one more year with more picks. That said, it's out of my control. And since so, I look forward to watching Ingram play. He's a bit of an enigma. If he can be healthy he can be the team's best player. KG and Pierce just don't get excited about any ole player. And if he is injured we get potentially a better pick.

[bballsparkin]

Better?

didn't you say that the Pelicans were willing to give up a FRP to dump Ingram? Sorry if I'm wrong but that's what my memory tells me. You wrote that a team was willing to give up a FRP for an expiring.

[ArthurVandelay]

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Better?

Be better.

Seriously. The Kool-Aid should at least be purple.

[Thaddy]

Pointing out Ingram's injury history isn't negative it's realistic. We will need to load manage him if we want to get into the playoffs and make some noise.

[ArthurVandelay]

Come end of September, I’m excited to see what 8 months of training under Raptors supervision does for Ingram’s body.

I don’t think anyone is discounting his skills and ability, except HFM. It's always been about the broken body with BI.

NO didn’t invest in the things we’d think were a given for a team giving out hundreds of millions in contracts.

I’m really excited to see what a healthy & STRONGER BI does. I have no doubt he is motivated. Knocking everyone down a peg is going to do wonders for Scottie, IQ, and RJ while giving better looks to shooters like Dick, Ochai, and Battle.

[HiJiNX]

Pointing out Ingram's injury history isn't negative it's realistic. We will need to load manage him if we want to get into the playoffs and make some noise.

It’s not just this thread. It’s all of them.

[ash_k]

Those kind of players will aways get injured. We can live with ankle sprains as those are the type of injuries those kind of players will always have. Our training team is supposed to take away those groins/hamstrings type of injuries. Concerns will only be raised if Knees and calves are involved

[GLF]

Pointing out Ingram's injury history isn't negative it's realistic. We will need to load manage him if we want to get into the playoffs and make some noise.

It’s not just this thread. It’s all of them.

Lol yea like it’s to the point now where it feels almost like people want him to get injured or something. Almost everyone agrees he is injury prone and will probably get injured this season like almost every player, we just have to hope it isn’t anything too serious that keeps him out too long. Why we have to say it is every thread and in every post is beyond me. Can we talk about his game and how he’ll help this team etc. There are so many things pertaining to BI that we can be talking about other than his injury history and it’s almost like people feel if you don’t bring it up every post you’re saying he isn’t injury prone or something lol. We have no control over if he gets injured or not, so why not talk about what the team will be like when he is healthy.

[tsherkin]

Lol yea like it’s to the point now where it feels almost like people want him to get injured or something. Almost everyone agrees he is injury prone and will probably get injured this season like almost every player, we just have to hope it isn’t anything too serious that keeps him out too long. Why we have to say it is every thread and in every post is beyond me. Can we talk about his game and how he’ll help this team etc. There are so many things pertaining to BI that we can be talking about other than his injury history and it’s almost like people feel if you don’t bring it up every post you’re saying he isn’t injury prone or something lol. We have no control over if he gets injured or not, so why not talk about what the team will be like when he is healthy.

Yeah, and we won't really know what's up until the season plays out. But he's exciting because he's literally the best scoring threat we've had in half a decade. So even for 60 games, that's pretty good.

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