Official Brandon Ingram Thread

[Duffman100]

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Please be healthy.

[Tripod]

I love that all our starters are willing passers. Might not have a 8-10 assist guy but having 4 starters capable of getting 5/6 a night then Yak around 3, it sets things up nicely to keep the ball moving.

It's the way Darko wants the team to play and we have added guys willing and able to do that too. Unlike a GTJ, for example.

Plus, adding BI gives Mgt a glimpse of how everyone else plays/adjusts when pushed down a notch. Adding a top NATURAL scorer should only help everyone else who now will get an easier defender on them as the top defender is now on Ingram. Take advantage of mismatches.

[DreamTeam09]

NOP playoff Ingram

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[OakleyDokely]

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I bet the combined number of rings of these candidates was 0.

[Brinbe]

desperate hailmary when it was turning a busted old kelly o/bruce brown's expiring and a single pacers pick into a way better asset. no clue who these execs are, but that's a moronic take even if you're not a big BI believer.

And who knows whose idea it came from within that FO structure. Pinning it on any one person seems pretty stupid unless they're privy to that information.

[TakeYourHeart]

Any GM who would not even do the BI definitely would not have the cojones to do the Kawhi trade

[refshateRaps]

Masai was absolutely on do nothing auto-pilot and did a terrible job to improve the team after the championship, to put it mildly.

This was actually a very good move to give this franchise a glimmer of hope.

These are the type of moves that have to be made as a GM in Toronto, whether they pan out or not. Anyone that plays it safe in this City shouldn't even be considered.

[Tofubeque]

Quick, someone make a montage of Casey calling things Hail Marys

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I bet the combined number of rings of these candidates was 0.

I bet the combined names of the candidate was Dwayne Casey.

[MEDIC]

I find it hilarious that people are making a big deal about the BI deal. Like it was some horrible error in judgement.

Even if BI remains injury prone the whole time, this deal would still rank pretty low on the list of "bad deals" the Raptors have made. Giving up Rasho (who was a solid C) & the 17th overall pick was a much worse deal than this one. That was a hail mary to appease Bosh. Signing Hakeem was a hail mary to appease VC. Turkeyglue signing was a bit of a hail mary. Marion trade was a bit of a hail mary. Kawhi trade was a huge hail mary.......that worked out well. This is the type of franchise that needs to make those trades from time to time.

We are talking about a franchise that gave up VC for a bag of peanuts, & lost T-Mac & Bosh for basically nothing. Those situations caused massive setbacks for the franchise.

Is it a bit of a hail mary? Maybe. But sometimes a hail mary is the best option. This is a hail mary with very little consequence.

If BI doesn't work out, at least it kept things interesting, gave the fans some hope & had people talking about the team again.

Nothing lost in my mind.

[causal_fan]

I find it hilarious that people are making a big deal about the BI deal. Like it was some horrible error in judgement.

Even if BI remains injury prone the whole time, this deal.would.still rank pretty low on the list of "bad deals" the Raptors have made.

We are talking about a franchise that gave up VC for a bag of peanuts, & lost T-Mac & Bosh for basically nothing.

Is it a bit of a hail mary? Maybe. But sometimes a hail mary is the best option.

I love this rationalization! - Because the Raptors franchise have made some terrible deals in the past, then we should excuse this deal because it's not as terrible as those deals - hilarious! - BI may become a productive and impactful player for the Raptors and I'd still criticize both the deal and contract because I think the team should have done better on both counts because of the circumstances - there wasn't much money available in the FA market and the market for BI was tepid given his injury history and contract ask. If the Raptors for example were to sign Gradey Dick to a max contract presently and he then became an "all NBA player", I'd still criticize the contract because they should be able to sign Dick for much less even if he then went out and provided good value for the max contract.

[tsherkin]

I find it hilarious that people are making a big deal about the BI deal. Like it was some horrible error in judgement.

Even if BI remains injury prone the whole time, this deal.would.still rank pretty low on the list of "bad deals" the Raptors have made.

We are talking about a franchise that gave up VC for a bag of peanuts, & lost T-Mac & Bosh for basically nothing.

Is it a bit of a hail mary? Maybe. But sometimes a hail mary is the best option.

I love this rationalization! - Because the Raptors franchise have made some terrible deals in the past, then we should excuse this deal because it's not as terrible as those deals - hilarious! - BI may become a productive and impactful player for the Raptors and I'd still criticize both the deal and contract because I think the team should have done better on both counts because of the circumstances - there wasn't much money available in the FA market and the market for BI was tepid given his injury history and contract ask. If the Raptors for example were to sign Gradey Dick to a max contract presently and he then became an "all NBA player", I'd still criticize the contract because they should be able to sign Dick for much less even if he then went out and provided good value for the max contract.

Honestly, it's a good deal. The chance for us to upgrade to a player of that caliber for even 60 games a year is a pretty big deal.

[PushDaRock]

I find it hilarious that people are making a big deal about the BI deal. Like it was some horrible error in judgement.

Even if BI remains injury prone the whole time, this deal would still rank pretty low on the list of "bad deals" the Raptors have made. Giving up Rasho (who was a solid C) & the 17th overall pick was a much worse deal than this one. That was a hail mary to appease Bosh. Signing Hakeem was a hail mary to appease VC. Turkeyglue signing was a bit of a hail mary. Marion trade was a bit of a hail mary. Kawhi trade was a huge hail mary.......that worked out well. This is the type of franchise that needs to make those trades from time to time.

We are talking about a franchise that gave up VC for a bag of peanuts, & lost T-Mac & Bosh for basically nothing. Those situations caused massive setbacks for the franchise.

Is it a bit of a hail mary? Maybe. But sometimes a hail mary is the best option. This is a hail mary with very little consequence.

If BI doesn't work out, at least it kept things interesting, gave the fans some hope & had people talking about the team again.

Nothing lost in my mind.

Only thing you can really complain about is that we would have been better off waiting till FA before re-signing him if that was a possibility. We likely save at least 5-10m in AAV given how the FA market has played out. But, there's also a decent probability that this wasn't even an option and that Rich Paul was not letting BI come here without an extension in place that met what he wanted. At the time, it was a reasonable deal though and not giving him 4 years reduced some risk.

[MEDIC]

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He'll be a top 3-4 in franchise history in regards in "must watch TV" type of excitement.

His game reminds me of VC a lot. Obviously not the highlight dunks or hops, but his shooting and overall ground game remind me a lot of VC. His ability to get to his spots and get his shot off over the defender.

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[MEDIC]

I find it hilarious that people are making a big deal about the BI deal. Like it was some horrible error in judgement.

Even if BI remains injury prone the whole time, this deal.would.still rank pretty low on the list of "bad deals" the Raptors have made.

We are talking about a franchise that gave up VC for a bag of peanuts, & lost T-Mac & Bosh for basically nothing.

Is it a bit of a hail mary? Maybe. But sometimes a hail mary is the best option.

I love this rationalization! - Because the Raptors franchise have made some terrible deals in the past, then we should excuse this deal because it's not as terrible as those deals - hilarious! - BI may become a productive and impactful player for the Raptors and I'd still criticize both the deal and contract because I think the team should have done better on both counts because of the circumstances - there wasn't much money available in the FA market and the market for BI was tepid given his injury history and contract ask. If the Raptors for example were to sign Gradey Dick to a max contract presently and he then became an "all NBA player", I'd still criticize the contract because they should be able to sign Dick for much less even if he then went out and provided good value for the max contract.

Here's the thing though. I don't think its a bad deal no matter what happens. I do this deal 10/10 times.

There are some that are acting like the sky is falling, which is laughable.

Its not a deal worthy of a high level of criticism. Its very low risk.

[binjumper]

I find it hilarious that people are making a big deal about the BI deal. Like it was some horrible error in judgement.

Even if BI remains injury prone the whole time, this deal would still rank pretty low on the list of "bad deals" the Raptors have made. Giving up Rasho (who was a solid C) & the 17th overall pick was a much worse deal than this one. That was a hail mary to appease Bosh. Signing Hakeem was a hail mary to appease VC. Turkeyglue signing was a bit of a hail mary. Marion trade was a bit of a hail mary. Kawhi trade was a huge hail mary.......that worked out well. This is the type of franchise that needs to make those trades from time to time.

We are talking about a franchise that gave up VC for a bag of peanuts, & lost T-Mac & Bosh for basically nothing. Those situations caused massive setbacks for the franchise.

Is it a bit of a hail mary? Maybe. But sometimes a hail mary is the best option. This is a hail mary with very little consequence.

If BI doesn't work out, at least it kept things interesting, gave the fans some hope & had people talking about the team again.

Nothing lost in my mind.

Only thing you can really complain about is that we would have been better off waiting till FA before re-signing him if that was a possibility. We likely save at least 5-10m in AAV given how the FA market has played out. But, there's also a decent probability that this wasn't even an option and that Rich Paul was not letting BI come here without an extension in place that met what he wanted. At the time, it was a reasonable deal though and not giving him 4 years reduced some risk.

Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think it was possible to sign him outright. Needed bird rights. Also considering what players getting paid right now. Getting him for 40 per season considering his potential output is not bad at all. The 3rd year is also a player option.

[Buff]

Here's the thing though. I don't think its a bad deal no matter what happens. I do this deal 10/10 times.

There are some that are acting like the sky is falling, which is laughable.

Its not a deal worthy of a high level of criticism. Its very low risk.

Imagine a team that needs a #1 scoring option terribly. Imagine said team getting said #1 option for a couple spare parts and a late pick. Its absolutely the worst! Fireable offense. Any idiot on RGM would have gotten Shai for that package and on top of that would make him give up half his salary.

[causal_fan]

Here's the thing though. I don't think its a bad deal no matter what happens. I do this deal 10/10 times.

There are some that are acting like the sky is falling, which is laughable.

Its not a deal worthy of a high level of criticism. Its very low risk.

Imagine a team that needs a #1 scoring option terribly. Imagine said team getting said #1 option for a couple spare parts and a late pick. Its absolutely the worst! Fireable offense. Any idiot on RGM would have gotten Shai for that package and on top of that would make him give up half his salary.

Absolutely

[youngRAPZ]

Anyone still complaining about BI is just mad we won’t be tanking again this year and the next 5 years after. Give it a rest guys you lost bobby is still here and the tank is dead.

MOVE ON!


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