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Re: The Joan Beringer Thread 

Post#341 » by KGdaBom » Yesterday 9:34 pm

Klomp wrote:Just a little nugget for Wolves fans who are thirsty for that, I've heard that Joan Beringer has been working out in town and one of the things he does regularly in these workouts is guard Anthony Edwards 1-on-1. When you think about what kind of ceiling they think Beringer has, what kind of things they want to prepare him for, to go against one of the best scorers in the league and to try to stay in front of him, I think they believe he can eventually down the road be the kind of defensive force that is not just a shot blocker at the rim, that is not just the big guy that eats up space in the paint, but someone who is nimble enough to switch out on pick and rolls, guard on the perimeter a little bit, and operate in as much of power forward-type as a center. -Jon Krawczynski Show

I like the way Jon K is thinking here.
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Re: The Joan Beringer Thread 

Post#342 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Today 12:45 am

I'm more and more convinced that Joan will have a chance to play this year and won't be surprised if he take over Rudy position in 2 years. He got all what Rudy got when he was young plus much better hand and speed. Such a great pick.
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Re: The Joan Beringer Thread 

Post#343 » by minimus » Today 8:50 am

Naz Reid has shown positive strides, but still needs to improve his ability to play as a center

According to Cleaning the Glass, Reid spent 55 percent of his time playing center and the other 45 percent of his time playing power forward last season. However, he posted a +13.9 efficiency difference as a power forward and a +3.4 efficiency difference as a center. Reid's +3.4 efficiency difference as a center was a career high, indicating that improving as a traditional center is possible.

Nevertheless, the Wolves posted a 116.3 defensive rating with Reid as the center compared to a 103 defensive rating with him at power forward. Additionally, Reid had an 11.8 net rating when he shared the court with Gobert compared to a 2.4 net rating when he was on the court with Julius Randle. It's clear that playing next to Gobert covers up some of Naz's defensive shortcomings.

However, finding ways to maximize the Reid-Randle minutes will be key; this will likely be paired with defensive improvements from Naz. If Reid is unable to make these improvements, the Wolves may look to use Randle in more of a center role.

Reid held opponents to 59.1 percent shooting at the rim. This number isn't elite, but it's certainly respectable and a positive sign. Regardless, Reid has moments where he struggles to stay engaged off-ball. Plus, his lack of lateral quickness hurts him when he's switched onto smaller players. These are two key areas of growth for Naz.

Ultimately, Reid will never be an elite anchor like Gobert. However, the Wolves need to maximize their defense when Gobert is off the court, which involves improvement from Reid on defense. As Beringer develops in his rookie year, Reid's defense and ability to play more of a traditional center role will be vital. For the Timberwolves to reach their championship aspirations, Reid will have to make some strides on defense. These improvements might be subtle, but they will be crucial.


I cant stop thinking about Joan-Naz pairing...
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Re: The Joan Beringer Thread 

Post#344 » by KGdaBom » Today 10:38 am

minimus wrote:
Naz Reid has shown positive strides, but still needs to improve his ability to play as a center

According to Cleaning the Glass, Reid spent 55 percent of his time playing center and the other 45 percent of his time playing power forward last season. However, he posted a +13.9 efficiency difference as a power forward and a +3.4 efficiency difference as a center. Reid's +3.4 efficiency difference as a center was a career high, indicating that improving as a traditional center is possible.

Nevertheless, the Wolves posted a 116.3 defensive rating with Reid as the center compared to a 103 defensive rating with him at power forward. Additionally, Reid had an 11.8 net rating when he shared the court with Gobert compared to a 2.4 net rating when he was on the court with Julius Randle. It's clear that playing next to Gobert covers up some of Naz's defensive shortcomings.

However, finding ways to maximize the Reid-Randle minutes will be key; this will likely be paired with defensive improvements from Naz. If Reid is unable to make these improvements, the Wolves may look to use Randle in more of a center role.

Reid held opponents to 59.1 percent shooting at the rim. This number isn't elite, but it's certainly respectable and a positive sign. Regardless, Reid has moments where he struggles to stay engaged off-ball. Plus, his lack of lateral quickness hurts him when he's switched onto smaller players. These are two key areas of growth for Naz.

Ultimately, Reid will never be an elite anchor like Gobert. However, the Wolves need to maximize their defense when Gobert is off the court, which involves improvement from Reid on defense. As Beringer develops in his rookie year, Reid's defense and ability to play more of a traditional center role will be vital. For the Timberwolves to reach their championship aspirations, Reid will have to make some strides on defense. These improvements might be subtle, but they will be crucial.


I cant stop thinking about Joan-Naz pairing...

Hopefully in a good way. :clap:
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Re: The Joan Beringer Thread 

Post#345 » by Wolveswin » Today 2:17 pm

FrenchMinnyFan wrote:I'm more and more convinced that Joan will have a chance to play this year and won't be surprised if he take over Rudy position in 2 years. He got all what Rudy got when he was young plus much better hand and speed. Such a great pick.

All Wolves fans hope you are right. But on the other side of how full said glass is, 30 NBA teams, every draft (year after year) hope they draft a 18yo foreign player to be their longterm replacement over starter. We need to temper ourselves thinking even within 5 years (or ever really) Beringer can backfill a 4x DPOY Rudy. Having those expectations that no drop off - or wow improvement over - Rudy isn’t healthy expectations. It is fair to have optimism and enthusiasm for a young developing player - sure fun to do so.
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Re: The Joan Beringer Thread 

Post#346 » by KGdaBom » Today 2:27 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
FrenchMinnyFan wrote:I'm more and more convinced that Joan will have a chance to play this year and won't be surprised if he take over Rudy position in 2 years. He got all what Rudy got when he was young plus much better hand and speed. Such a great pick.

All Wolves fans hope you are right. But on the other side of how full said glass is, 30 NBA teams, every draft (year after year) hope they draft a 18yo foreign player to be their longterm replacement over starter. We need to temper ourselves thinking even within 5 years (or ever really) Beringer can backfill a 4x DPOY Rudy. Having those expectations that no drop off - or wow improvement over - Rudy isn’t healthy expectations. It is fair to have optimism and enthusiasm for a young developing player - sure fun to do so.

Odds are extremely high that Le Berricade won't be a 4X DPotY. However with Rudy aging out perhaps two to three years from now Joan will be better than Rudy and a very competent center to replace him by then.
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Re: The Joan Beringer Thread 

Post#347 » by Wolveswin » Today 2:36 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
FrenchMinnyFan wrote:I'm more and more convinced that Joan will have a chance to play this year and won't be surprised if he take over Rudy position in 2 years. He got all what Rudy got when he was young plus much better hand and speed. Such a great pick.

All Wolves fans hope you are right. But on the other side of how full said glass is, 30 NBA teams, every draft (year after year) hope they draft a 18yo foreign player to be their longterm replacement over starter. We need to temper ourselves thinking even within 5 years (or ever really) Beringer can backfill a 4x DPOY Rudy. Having those expectations that no drop off - or wow improvement over - Rudy isn’t healthy expectations. It is fair to have optimism and enthusiasm for a young developing player - sure fun to do so.

Odds are extremely high that Le Berricade won't be a 4X DPotY. However with Rudy aging out perhaps two to three years from now Joan will be better than Rudy and a very competent center to replace him by then.

Maybe. We sure hope so. But acting like it’s a forgone conclusion isn’t right either.

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