ImageImageImage

Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling

Moderators: dVs33, Cowology, theBigLip, Snakebites

Billl
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,221
And1: 3,357
Joined: Sep 06, 2013

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#241 » by Billl » Fri Aug 22, 2025 7:01 pm

Kilo wrote:Indiana makes sense and has the money to outbid anybody. I can't see Beasley going overseas as I think that would limit his earnings to come back in a years time.


indi is punting this season and really has plenty of young wings already. Cant' see them being interested.
User avatar
Kilo
RealGM
Posts: 12,266
And1: 5,253
Joined: Jun 18, 2011
 

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#242 » by Kilo » Fri Aug 22, 2025 7:24 pm

What about Holland taking #5??? If a spot was really held for Beas wouldn't TL have told Holland to hold off on any number change?

Ron thought Beas was guilty and finished in Detroit.
Weaver = Hinkie
VW to Portland :pray:
Invictus88
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,939
And1: 2,220
Joined: Jun 25, 2013

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#243 » by Invictus88 » Fri Aug 22, 2025 8:16 pm

Kilo wrote:What about Holland taking #5??? If a spot was really held for Beas wouldn't TL have told Holland to hold off on any number change?

Ron thought Beas was guilty and finished in Detroit.


All that it indicates is that TL/Ron weren't certain that Beasley would be back. Not using an end of bench roster spot / holding an open one is pretty common and cheap to do while they waited for the investigation to conclude. And now that it seems that Beasley is cleared they can hopefully use it on him.
User avatar
VicVinegar
Sophomore
Posts: 248
And1: 226
Joined: Jul 01, 2024

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#244 » by VicVinegar » Fri Aug 22, 2025 8:39 pm

Beasley very well could go elsewhere for more money, but I doubt it's because of his debts. He has $60M in career earnings. I'd be very surprised if he's broke/bankrupt. He's likely just a headcase who just doesn't care and thinks he can get away with everything (reminds me a lot of Antonio Brown). He probably surrounds himself with bad influences (yes men) and doesn't have a money manager who says, "just pay the s**t, dude", or at the least, doesn't listen to them. He probably has millions in cars, jewelry, etc. Obviously I could be wrong, but I just don't see how going to another team for $3M more makes much of a difference if he's already flushed $60M down the drain. The problem is his habits and not the salary.

Also, I'm fairly surprised how quickly this case was closed. I believe the federal investigation of Rozier is still ongoing (although he has been cleared by the NBA).

If he wants to come back at a discount, great, if not, whatever. I've already moved past it. As great of a player he is, it's very obvious he's not a good human being/needs mental help.
bstein14
RealGM
Posts: 32,733
And1: 9,568
Joined: Jun 22, 2001

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#245 » by bstein14 » Fri Aug 22, 2025 8:43 pm

VicVinegar wrote:Beasley very well could go elsewhere for more money, but I doubt it's because of his debts. He has $60M in career earnings. I'd be very surprised if he's broke/bankrupt. He's likely just a headcase who just doesn't care and thinks he can get away with everything (reminds me a lot of Antonio Brown). He probably surrounds himself with bad influences (yes men) and doesn't have a money manager who says, "just pay the s**t, dude", or at the least, doesn't listen to them. He probably has millions in cars, jewelry, etc. Obviously I could be wrong, but I just don't see how going to another team for $3M more makes much of a difference if he's already flushed $60M down the drain. The problem is his habits and not the salary.

Also, I'm fairly surprised how quickly this case was closed. I believe the federal investigation of Rozier is still ongoing (although he has been cleared by the NBA).

If he wants to come back at a discount, great, if not, whatever. I've already moved past it. As great of a player he is, it's very obvious he's not a good human being/needs mental help.


The Beasley case was ongoing for a long time, the NBA knew about it but only decided to make it public just before FA started likely because they felt obligated to tell teams who may possibly be choosing to spend their MLE $ on him. Could be back breaking for a team to sign someone like that and then have them kicked out of the league shortly after, depending on what the investigation uncovered.
User avatar
Snakebites
Forum Mod - Pistons
Forum Mod - Pistons
Posts: 50,959
And1: 18,073
Joined: Jul 14, 2002
Location: Looking not-so-happily deranged
   

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#246 » by Snakebites » Fri Aug 22, 2025 9:10 pm

I think it's kind of pointless to speculate right now.

We just don't know enough.

Yeah, I know. Baseless speculation is part of what keeps the lights on around here. But here I really do think we're going to know one way or another fairly soon. I don't see a prolonged bidding war here, though I totally could be wrong.
User avatar
VicVinegar
Sophomore
Posts: 248
And1: 226
Joined: Jul 01, 2024

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#247 » by VicVinegar » Fri Aug 22, 2025 9:13 pm

bstein14 wrote:
VicVinegar wrote:Beasley very well could go elsewhere for more money, but I doubt it's because of his debts. He has $60M in career earnings. I'd be very surprised if he's broke/bankrupt. He's likely just a headcase who just doesn't care and thinks he can get away with everything (reminds me a lot of Antonio Brown). He probably surrounds himself with bad influences (yes men) and doesn't have a money manager who says, "just pay the s**t, dude", or at the least, doesn't listen to them. He probably has millions in cars, jewelry, etc. Obviously I could be wrong, but I just don't see how going to another team for $3M more makes much of a difference if he's already flushed $60M down the drain. The problem is his habits and not the salary.

Also, I'm fairly surprised how quickly this case was closed. I believe the federal investigation of Rozier is still ongoing (although he has been cleared by the NBA).

If he wants to come back at a discount, great, if not, whatever. I've already moved past it. As great of a player he is, it's very obvious he's not a good human being/needs mental help.


The Beasley case was ongoing for a long time, the NBA knew about it but only decided to make it public just before FA started likely because they felt obligated to tell teams who may possibly be choosing to spend their MLE $ on him. Could be back breaking for a team to sign someone like that and then have them kicked out of the league shortly after, depending on what the investigation uncovered.


Oh it was definitely in progress before the public knew about it, but still, compared to the Rozier investigation (only similar investigation I can go off of), it was over much quicker. Beasley was under investigation for a January 2024 game. Rozier was for a March 2023 game and is allegedly still under investigation.
User avatar
Rip32
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,511
And1: 297
Joined: Nov 09, 2002

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#248 » by Rip32 » Fri Aug 22, 2025 10:39 pm

Honestly, if he did come back, could it be a distraction?
Image

:nod: DETROIT VS EVERYBODY :nod:

I have no love for rogue moderators who abuse their authority

The Messiah needs a spacer to be great :noway:
thesack12
RealGM
Posts: 20,337
And1: 2,642
Joined: Jun 06, 2008
Location: N DA NAP
     

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#249 » by thesack12 » Fri Aug 22, 2025 10:40 pm

Cowology wrote:I guess I'll be the bad guy. It feels like they *knew* he did something but couldn't actually prove it without Beasley himself opening his mouth. Pressure was applied and he held the line.

Legally you are innocent until proven guilty but the court of public & private opinion has always been held apart. I'm still not sure I would want this guy in my locker room.

That said, I don't personally know the guy and it's impossible for me to accurately read him or the situation. I'd hope smarter people than me are in the room. He could be 100% clear of any and all wrong doing, but it took some sort of extraordinary circumstances for us to get here and that is still concerning.


Yeah, same here.

Beasley clearly has serious problems with commitments and responsibilities, despise having immense means.

This guy has made $60 million dollars and he's getting served eviction papers and has barbers and dentists chasing him to get paid. Paying your bills is a very basic form of adulting and apparently he's been a habitual failure at that for quite some time.

Apparently he's not interested in being a man of integrity.

Not to mention, he felt the need to point guns at unsuspecting people.

The guy has character flaws, which is probably a lot of the reason why he never sticks with a team for very long.

Good for him that he got cleared and can now continue his NBA career, but I'd be perfectly fine if his time in Detroit is done.
User avatar
MrBigShot
RealGM
Posts: 18,557
And1: 20,117
Joined: Dec 18, 2010
 

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#250 » by MrBigShot » Fri Aug 22, 2025 10:40 pm

Bring him home
"They say you miss 100% of the shots you take" - Mike James
User avatar
zeebneeb
RealGM
Posts: 19,494
And1: 13,023
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Location: ANGERVILLE: Population 1
 

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#251 » by zeebneeb » Fri Aug 22, 2025 10:53 pm

Hopefully the Pistons resign him. The sky is the limit if they do. Having two of the best three-point shooters in the league, on the same roster with Cade, along with the best athletes in the league as lob threats, is **** amazing.

Cmon Langdon, make it happen.

Cade/LeVert
Ivey/Beasley
Ausar/Robinson
Harris/Holland
Duren/Stewart

Mix and match as you see fit. Yeah, thats a possible #1 seed next season.
User avatar
Kilo
RealGM
Posts: 12,266
And1: 5,253
Joined: Jun 18, 2011
 

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#252 » by Kilo » Fri Aug 22, 2025 11:37 pm

TL thought he was enough of a fit to be prepared to offer him a 3yr 45m offer with all of his off court shenanigans mostly known.
Weaver = Hinkie
VW to Portland :pray:
breezypeezy
Pro Prospect
Posts: 832
And1: 527
Joined: Dec 30, 2014
       

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#253 » by breezypeezy » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:51 am

Do whatever is necessary to brink Malik back into our fold. He has proven to me that he makes the team better, so the calculous is very simple for me.
Fennis Dembo
Senior
Posts: 557
And1: 303
Joined: Oct 25, 2022

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#254 » by Fennis Dembo » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:48 am

VicVinegar wrote:Beasley very well could go elsewhere for more money, but I doubt it's because of his debts. He has $60M in career earnings. I'd be very surprised if he's broke/bankrupt.


You underestimate true addiction.
Fennis Dembo
Senior
Posts: 557
And1: 303
Joined: Oct 25, 2022

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#255 » by Fennis Dembo » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:59 am

Rip32 wrote:Honestly, if he did come back, could it be a distraction?


That's a question for the front office and Cade. I'd like to hope not if this team is ready to move up.
User avatar
whitehops
General Manager
Posts: 8,303
And1: 7,013
Joined: Dec 12, 2012
Location: Toronto
     

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#256 » by whitehops » Sat Aug 23, 2025 10:35 am

honestly the thought of beasley and duncan on the floor with cade, ausar and duren is exciting. you have cade running high pick and roll with duren and ausar cutting/chilling in the dunker spot as a permanent lob threat and two of the best movement shooters spreading the floor. defensively you have ausar as the POA defender and you can put cade as the low man to help duren guard the paint.

i guess one of the advantages we have is that we've likely had constant communication with his agent whereas teams might not have. i'm guessing we'll offer what we can offer him and then it's up to him to make a decision.
User avatar
Snakebites
Forum Mod - Pistons
Forum Mod - Pistons
Posts: 50,959
And1: 18,073
Joined: Jul 14, 2002
Location: Looking not-so-happily deranged
   

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#257 » by Snakebites » Sat Aug 23, 2025 6:51 pm

whitehops wrote:honestly the thought of beasley and duncan on the floor with cade, ausar and duren is exciting. you have cade running high pick and roll with duren and ausar cutting/chilling in the dunker spot as a permanent lob threat and two of the best movement shooters spreading the floor. defensively you have ausar as the POA defender and you can put cade as the low man to help duren guard the paint.

i guess one of the advantages we have is that we've likely had constant communication with his agent whereas teams might not have. i'm guessing we'll offer what we can offer him and then it's up to him to make a decision.

This is where I’m at.

I’m wondering what kind of offers he’s going to get, but my instinct is that if there’s a bigger payday for him he’ll take it.
User avatar
Mr Peanut
Analyst
Posts: 3,313
And1: 3,877
Joined: Jan 29, 2012
Location: New Zealand
 

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#258 » by Mr Peanut » Sun Aug 24, 2025 7:03 am

My prediction is he returns to us on a 2 year 15 million deal (7.2 in the first year, with the second year being a player option). That way if he outperforms the contract he can re-enter FA next year, but if he has a down year/deals with injuries he can pick up the PO for some more guaranteed money.
Canadafan
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,098
And1: 2,001
Joined: Nov 03, 2014
       

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#259 » by Canadafan » Sun Aug 24, 2025 10:05 am

Mr Peanut wrote:My prediction is he returns to us on a 2 year 15 million deal (7.2 in the first year, with the second year being a player option). That way if he outperforms the contract he can re-enter FA next year, but if he has a down year/deals with injuries he can pick up the PO for some more guaranteed money.


And if he has another good year, he opts out and we give him a bigger contract
Canadafan
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,098
And1: 2,001
Joined: Nov 03, 2014
       

Re: Malik Beasley: Allegations of Gambling 

Post#260 » by Canadafan » Sun Aug 24, 2025 10:06 am

Mr Peanut wrote:My prediction is he returns to us on a 2 year 15 million deal (7.2 in the first year, with the second year being a player option). That way if he outperforms the contract he can re-enter FA next year, but if he has a down year/deals with injuries he can pick up the PO for some more guaranteed money.


And if he has another good year, he opts out and we give him a bigger contract

Read on Twitter
?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1958868404904808614%7Ctwgr%5E65d3f16c988851f219c0c295077d934559997f29%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.realgm.com%2Fboards%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D2466530start%3D180

Return to Detroit Pistons