Around the NBA 2024-25 - In Our Offseason, Vol. 1

[Fat]

We found our 12th man!

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[BKlutch]

We found our 12th man!

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We can’t offer him as much money as others can and we can’t offer him a lot of minutes. It’s not likely he chooses us

[Capn'O]

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Honestly think there's a win win deal there though I'm biased wanting to see kuminga freed.

[cgmw]

We found our 12th man!

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[TheGreenArrow]

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[BKlutch]

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Worth taking a gamble on!

If it's true Beasley didn't do anything illegal, he's been really screwed. He has massive debts he could have paid off with his expected new contract. Now, he's unlikely to sign for nearly as much and may continue to be mired in financial difficuties. He lost an expected 4 year $48M contract with Detroit all for nothing, if this reporting is true. Kick him while he's down. What a shyt show.

[thebuzzardman]

So, I like the CONCEPT of what Beasley would bring to the Knicks. Really good shooting and a solid all around offensive game otherwise. A team can't have too much of that.

As pointed out in the trade topic, starting him would push Bridges into the front court and push out Hart, Mitch or Yabu out of the rotation and that doesn't seem like something that would happen.

But let's look at it from the Beasley perspective.
The guy is in huge debt from a slew of bad decisions.
He needs $$$$$ ASAP.
Logic dictates he'll take the largest sum of money offered, end of story.
He's not coming to a playoff team or the Knicks to "build up his stock" and get a payday next year. And teams know who he is. He's not coming off an injury.

He needs that money now.

He'll also being going to a situation where 28 mpg are guaranteed. Now, he could take a deal for the most money and not be guaranteed minutes figuring he can deal with his debts that way. But if he takes less (and by less I mean the teams that are offering than Brooklyn, Chi, Cha, Indiana) it's for one of the teams that can offer 7 million per AND guaranteed minutes.

Jokingly, I said Indiana in the trade topic but it's probably Brooklyn, Chicago or Charlotte, depending on which of those teams doesn't have too much of a guard glut and has a need, plus minutes.

Knicks fill zero of the criteria of what Beasley would be looking for.

And, IF Beasley came to the Knicks on a "prove it" deal (even though he has nothing to prove as a player), imagine how much of a distraction and malcontent he becomes if his minutes slip at any point in the year, which is possible with talented guys like Deuce, Clarkson, Hart, Yabu, Mitch all possibly getting more minutes that might press his down.

[nykballa2k4]

So, I like the CONCEPT of what Beasley would bring to the Knicks. Really good shooting and a solid all around offensive game otherwise. A team can't have too much of that.

As pointed out in the trade topic, starting him would push Bridges into the front court and push out Hart, Mitch or Yabu out of the rotation and that doesn't seem like something that would happen.

But let's look at it from the Beasley perspective.
The guy is in huge debt from a slew of bad decisions.
He needs $$$$$ ASAP.
Logic dictates he'll take the largest sum of money offered, end of story.
He's not coming to a playoff team or the Knicks to "build up his stock" and get a payday next year. And teams know who he is. He's not coming off an injury.

He needs that money now.

He'll also being going to a situation where 28 mpg are guaranteed. Now, he could take a deal for the most money and not be guaranteed minutes figuring he can deal with his debts that way. But if he takes less (and by less I mean the teams that are offering than Brooklyn, Chi, Cha, Indiana) it's for one of the teams that can offer 7 million per AND guaranteed minutes.

Jokingly, I said Indiana in the trade topic but it's probably Brooklyn, Chicago or Charlotte, depending on which of those teams doesn't have too much of a guard glut and has a need, plus minutes.

Knicks fill zero of the criteria of what Beasley would be looking for.

And, IF Beasley came to the Knicks on a "prove it" deal (even though he has nothing to prove as a player), imagine how much of a distraction and malcontent he becomes if his minutes slip at any point in the year, which is possible with talented guys like Deuce, Clarkson, Hart, Yabu, Mitch all possibly getting more minutes that might press his down.

Nets have cap space, he can take a 1 year deal and basically be a trade deadline guy for a more credible team.

[TheGreenArrow]

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Josh hart is at least top 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wildcat]

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Josh hart is at least top 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Klay Top 10? Booker MVP candidate? No Grimes?

[The Lamma]

We found our 12th man!

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Wherever he goes, the odds are that he'll be betting on himself to succeed

[Capn'O]

I don't want Beasley near the team. He's talented but he's also an overconfident headcase and he has that DV charge. While he got hot at times in that Pistons series he also made bad decisions that cost them at key moments.

Also, we have good guards. Big wing is still more of a priority.

[WaltFrazier]

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Josh hart is at least top 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Klay Top 10? Booker MVP candidate? No Grimes?

Beal at #6?

[Wildcat]

I don't want Beasley near the team. He's talented but he's also an overconfident headcase and he has that DV charge. While he got hot at times in that Pistons series he also made bad decisions that cost them at key moments.

Also, we have good guards. Big wing is still more of a priority.

It's moot, anyway. No minutes unless Knicks sending out Hart and/or Deuce. Same reason why Ben hasn't come on board. No one coming for the potential of minutes and without legit backup big, I can't see this team not giving minutes to Ariel.

[Wildcat]

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Josh hart is at least top 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Klay Top 10? Booker MVP candidate? No Grimes?

Beal at #6?

Yeah, bananas.

[MrDollarBills]

I don't want Beasley near the team. He's talented but he's also an overconfident headcase and he has that DV charge. While he got hot at times in that Pistons series he also made bad decisions that cost them at key moments.

Also, we have good guards. Big wing is still more of a priority.

We already have Clarkson. We definitely need to add another wing if the young guys on the roster can't cut it

[JayTWill]

I'm not saying that I want Beasley here or that I think he would/should come here but i'm not sure if having Clarkson is a reason to not want or need him. Clarkson may be a great addition or he may be another Kemba, Fournier, Bogey etc that is at the stage in his career where his offense is no longer close to good enough to make up for his poor defense.

Clarkson is 33. Even guys that were very good for the team at one point like Burks and Rose became almost unplayable around this age. For the minimum it is not much of a risk but we don't even know if he is deserving of being a rotational player on a contender yet.

[stuporman]

Wait...Hart is a SG? Does he know about this?

[jvsimonetti0514]

I’d love to have Beas here but Buzz is 100% right about why beasely wouldn’t want to come here. He needs money, plan and simple. Although he probably shouldn’t think he’ll be able to chuck on a bad team and get paid. The apron’s made every teams way more cautious about giving out risky contracts and Beas has shown to be a risky investment. Go contribute to the pacers or Miami they can give you more than the vet min.

[Wildcat]

I'm not saying that I want Beasley here or that I think he would/should come here but i'm not sure if having Clarkson is a reason to not want or need him. Clarkson may be a great addition or he may be another Kemba, Fournier, Bogey etc that is at the stage in his career where his offense is no longer close to good enough to make up for his poor defense.

Clarkson is 33. Even guys that were very good for the team at one point like Burks and Rose became almost unplayable around this age. For the minimum it is not much of a risk but we don't even know if he is deserving of being a rotational player on a contender yet.

In an ideal world, you'd look at moving Deuce to free up time for Beasley. Clarkson came in for play making duties this team desperately needs. Having a 3 point bomber is moot if you can't create those open looks for him. Positions 6-10 are in my opinion locked between Hart, Clarkson, Deuce, Yabusele, and ideally Ariel. As is right now, there just isn't minutes for someone like Beasley and he's not coming for the minimum.