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Post#501 » by Spree2Houston » Fri Aug 22, 2025 9:48 pm

Beasley only comes here if he’s guaranteed a starting spot. Otherwise he’s leaving too much on the table by taking the vet minimum. Some team will give him the MLE. It would be nice if we got him though
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Post#502 » by G_K_F » Fri Aug 22, 2025 11:10 pm

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Post#503 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sat Aug 23, 2025 12:44 am

Spree2Houston wrote:Beasley only comes here if he’s guaranteed a starting spot. Otherwise he’s leaving too much on the table by taking the vet minimum. Some team will give him the MLE. It would be nice if we got him though

Ok. I'm interested in examining that (given there's f-all else to do.)

The guaranteed starters are kat, og, bridges, JB.

Would Beasley jump ahead of Clarkson and Deuce and be the starting SG?

[Edit] I did the very most basic of stat skims, and, yeah, on the whole I think Beasley gets the nod. His defence really is ok, right? ???
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Post#504 » by Richard4444 » Sat Aug 23, 2025 5:03 am

Beasley has the same size and age of Shamet.

But Beasley has more games played and more points per game.

He is a more proven player although is a little bit crazy out of the court.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#505 » by Spree2Houston » Sat Aug 23, 2025 9:29 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
Spree2Houston wrote:Beasley only comes here if he’s guaranteed a starting spot. Otherwise he’s leaving too much on the table by taking the vet minimum. Some team will give him the MLE. It would be nice if we got him though

Ok. I'm interested in examining that (given there's f-all else to do.)

The guaranteed starters are kat, og, bridges, JB.

Would Beasley jump ahead of Clarkson and Deuce and be the starting SG?

[Edit] I did the very most basic of stat skims, and, yeah, on the whole I think Beasley gets the nod. His defence really is ok, right? ???


His defense is terrible from what I read. But he would allow us to truly go 5 out
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Post#506 » by StlHawksFan » Sat Aug 23, 2025 12:19 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
Spree2Houston wrote:Beasley only comes here if he’s guaranteed a starting spot. Otherwise he’s leaving too much on the table by taking the vet minimum. Some team will give him the MLE. It would be nice if we got him though

Ok. I'm interested in examining that (given there's f-all else to do.)

The guaranteed starters are kat, og, bridges, JB.

Would Beasley jump ahead of Clarkson and Deuce and be the starting SG?

[Edit] I did the very most basic of stat skims, and, yeah, on the whole I think Beasley gets the nod. His defence really is ok, right? ???


His defense is terrible from what I read. But he would allow us to truly go 5 out


Last year was the first year he ever played defense. His DBPM was 0.8 meaning his defense made his teams 0.8 points better per 100 possessions than a league average player. By contrast, Shamet was -0.6.
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Post#507 » by StlHawksFan » Sat Aug 23, 2025 12:27 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:Beasley only comes here if he’s guaranteed a starting spot. Otherwise he’s leaving too much on the table by taking the vet minimum. Some team will give him the MLE. It would be nice if we got him though


Let's suppose he does start. What's the backcourt rotation at that point?

Beasley's probably playing the same 28mpg he had last year. Brunson plays 33mpg. That leaves 38mpg for Deuce and Clarkson to split.

Sounds ok BUT that also pushes Bridges into a crowded front courtyard where one of Mitch, Hart, or Yabu is now pushed out of the rotation unless none of the starters plays 30+.
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Post#508 » by StlHawksFan » Sat Aug 23, 2025 12:37 pm

I asked AI for a 10-man rotation if Beasley starts at SG:

Player Position Minutes (mpg)
Jalen Brunson PG 31
Malik Beasley SG 26
Mikal Bridges SF 30
OG Anunoby PF 29
Karl-Anthony Towns C 29
Josh Hart G/F 22
Mitchell Robinson C 20
Jordan Clarkson G 20
Guerschon Yabusele F 18
Miles McBride G 18
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Post#509 » by prophet_of_rage » Sat Aug 23, 2025 12:46 pm

StlHawksFan wrote:I asked AI for a 10-man rotation if Beasley starts at SG:

Player Position Minutes (mpg)
Jalen Brunson PG 31
Malik Beasley SG 26
Mikal Bridges SF 30
OG Anunoby PF 29
Karl-Anthony Towns C 29
Josh Hart G/F 22
Mitchell Robinson C 20
Jordan Clarkson G 20
Guerschon Yabusele F 18
Miles McBride G 18
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Post#510 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:42 pm

Beasley probably signs in Indiana.

Reasons:
They are dicks
He's a dick
Nearly the most $
Indiana is good team
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Post#511 » by Rodimus921 » Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:58 pm

After the Pistons and Knicks playoffs, One thing that I remembered how I found Jalen Duren very impressive and dangerous against the Knicks . I saw a lot of a Alonzo Mourning -type of game on the defensive end , with the second chance points , intensity ,Hustling, Boxing out , rebounding , interior post moves , quick step long arms and occasional 14 foot jumper, passing to the open man . He is a def a man that lets the game come to him.

Jalen Duren vs Knicks 2025 1st round
https://youtu.be/DohuxNbWvhI?si=18HmhZYJHf7Ahiuu

https://youtu.be/YfyueI3-LXU?si=PKbQMfkN1h7YlVjD



Karl Anthony Towns, as much as he is one of the better shooting bigs he eventually did Hurt us Defensively in the playoffs and also a lot offensively . He lives and dies on that 3 , doesn’t take advantage on mismatches , soft. we lose interior rebounding when he camps, only leaves the center to fight for rebounds. If he is the center then there’s no big on the post grabbing rebounds , unless Hart is in the game. He Was truly exposed by Siakam as a liability in the ECF.

We made the trade for towns and we still lost to the Pacers . Since Boston , Pacers , 76ers are all out due to injuries , I would make a trade for Jalen Duren .

I know the Pistons need a 2nd star who can score
And I think a Towns - Cunningham pairing would work .


The trade …

Knicks get:

Jalen Duren
Tobias Harris
Isaiah Stewart
1st round pick


Pistons get :

Karl Anthony Towns




Key reasons for trade

It Forces Brunson to create & pass more
The new NY Lob city ( Duren, Robinson )

Interior D becomes superior with
(Robinson & Duren)

(OG , Bridges ) get more touches & they become the focal Point of the offense

If More touches for Bridges & OG, Then least likely they struggles on offense and disappear during quarters.
Either Bridges and OG would be a +25ppg and can possibly be all stars..

The team becomes a Defensive juggernaut.
Robinson ,Duren ,OG ,Bridges ,Hart covering for Brunson’s shortcomings on defense .

We can even run a speedy small ball lineup of
Duren
OG
Bridges
Hart
Brunson

Not to mention Tobias Harris would be a great 16ppg along side Clarkson’s 16ppg off the bench.


Bench becomes deeper with

Isaiah Stewart
G Yabusele
Tobias Harris
Josh Hart
Jordan Clarkson



If it fails….
(Harris ,, Duren (restricted) are free agents by the end of the season they can open up $26-32 million dollars , give Knicks flexibility, (extend Mitch and Duren) while staying under the Apron. More assets for Giannis ig h

Knicks Roster after trade

Robinson Stewart
Duren Harris / Yabusele
Og Hart
Bridges Clarkson
Brunson McBride /Kolek


In addition ..
Knicks Also Receive a first round from Detroit which can be used to force another trade possibly mid season maybe Kessler
or hold it for Giannis ???
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Post#512 » by RHODEY » Sat Aug 23, 2025 2:09 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Beasley probably signs in Indiana.

Reasons:
They are dicks
He's a dick
Nearly the most $
Indiana is good team
It would hurt the Knicks
I could see that....but it doesn't really hurt us ....we can just sign Shamet and call it a day. It's not like we don't already have Clarkson too.
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Post#513 » by The Lamma » Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:00 pm

StlHawksFan wrote:I asked AI for a 10-man rotation if Beasley starts at SG:

Player Position Minutes (mpg)
Jalen Brunson PG 31
Malik Beasley SG 26
Mikal Bridges SF 30
OG Anunoby PF 29
Karl-Anthony Towns C 29
Josh Hart G/F 22
Mitchell Robinson C 20
Jordan Clarkson G 20
Guerschon Yabusele F 18
Miles McBride G 18



Speaking of AI, the FB page Feelings Baseball asked ChatGPT to select one player from each team. Look at what it barfed out. The accuracy is astonishing! :lol:

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Post#514 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Aug 23, 2025 5:32 pm

RHODEY wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Beasley probably signs in Indiana.

Reasons:
They are dicks
He's a dick
Nearly the most $
Indiana is good team
It would hurt the Knicks
I could see that....but it doesn't really hurt us ....we can just sign Shamet and call it a day. It's not like we don't already have Clarkson too.


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Post#515 » by Juco24 » Sat Aug 23, 2025 6:20 pm

Rodimus921 wrote:After the Pistons and Knicks playoffs, One thing that I remembered how I found Jalen Duren very impressive and dangerous against the Knicks . I saw a lot of a Alonzo Mourning -type of game on the defensive end , with the second chance points , intensity ,Hustling, Boxing out , rebounding , interior post moves , quick step long arms and occasional 14 foot jumper, passing to the open man . He is a def a man that lets the game come to him.

Jalen Duren vs Knicks 2025 1st round
https://youtu.be/DohuxNbWvhI?si=18HmhZYJHf7Ahiuu

https://youtu.be/YfyueI3-LXU?si=PKbQMfkN1h7YlVjD



Karl Anthony Towns, as much as he is one of the better shooting bigs he eventually did Hurt us Defensively in the playoffs and also a lot offensively . He lives and dies on that 3 , doesn’t take advantage on mismatches , soft. we lose interior rebounding when he camps, only leaves the center to fight for rebounds. If he is the center then there’s no big on the post grabbing rebounds , unless Hart is in the game. He Was truly exposed by Siakam as a liability in the ECF.

We made the trade for towns and we still lost to the Pacers . Since Boston , Pacers , 76ers are all out due to injuries , I would make a trade for Jalen Duren .

I know the Pistons need a 2nd star who can score
And I think a Towns - Cunningham pairing would work .


The trade …

Knicks get:

Jalen Duren
Tobias Harris
Isaiah Stewart
1st round pick


Pistons get :

Karl Anthony Towns




Key reasons for trade

It Forces Brunson to create & pass more
The new NY Lob city ( Duren, Robinson )

Interior D becomes superior with
(Robinson & Duren)

(OG , Bridges ) get more touches & they become the focal Point of the offense

If More touches for Bridges & OG, Then least likely they struggles on offense and disappear during quarters.
Either Bridges and OG would be a +25ppg and can possibly be all stars..

The team becomes a Defensive juggernaut.
Robinson ,Duren ,OG ,Bridges ,Hart covering for Brunson’s shortcomings on defense .

We can even run a speedy small ball lineup of
Duren
OG
Bridges
Hart
Brunson

Not to mention Tobias Harris would be a great 16ppg along side Clarkson’s 16ppg off the bench.


Bench becomes deeper with

Isaiah Stewart
G Yabusele
Tobias Harris
Josh Hart
Jordan Clarkson



If it fails….
(Harris ,, Duren (restricted) are free agents by the end of the season they can open up $26-32 million dollars , give Knicks flexibility, (extend Mitch and Duren) while staying under the Apron. More assets for Giannis ig h

Knicks Roster after trade

Robinson Stewart
Duren Harris / Yabusele
Og Hart
Bridges Clarkson
Brunson McBride /Kolek


In addition ..
Knicks Also Receive a first round from Detroit which can be used to force another trade possibly mid season maybe Kessler
or hold it for Giannis ???


You do realize we only have one roster spot? And no disrespect, but this is a video game trade idea. Lol
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Post#516 » by knicks1999 » Sat Aug 23, 2025 6:34 pm

Feels like there’s a Robinson trade coming….just a hunch
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Post#517 » by Knick4Real » Sat Aug 23, 2025 6:55 pm

Rodimus921 wrote:After the Pistons and Knicks playoffs, One thing that I remembered how I found Jalen Duren very impressive and dangerous against the Knicks . I saw a lot of a Alonzo Mourning -type of game on the defensive end , with the second chance points , intensity ,Hustling, Boxing out , rebounding , interior post moves , quick step long arms and occasional 14 foot jumper, passing to the open man . He is a def a man that lets the game come to him.

Jalen Duren vs Knicks 2025 1st round
https://youtu.be/DohuxNbWvhI?si=18HmhZYJHf7Ahiuu

https://youtu.be/YfyueI3-LXU?si=PKbQMfkN1h7YlVjD



Karl Anthony Towns, as much as he is one of the better shooting bigs he eventually did Hurt us Defensively in the playoffs and also a lot offensively . He lives and dies on that 3 , doesn’t take advantage on mismatches , soft. we lose interior rebounding when he camps, only leaves the center to fight for rebounds. If he is the center then there’s no big on the post grabbing rebounds , unless Hart is in the game. He Was truly exposed by Siakam as a liability in the ECF.

We made the trade for towns and we still lost to the Pacers . Since Boston , Pacers , 76ers are all out due to injuries , I would make a trade for Jalen Duren .

I know the Pistons need a 2nd star who can score
And I think a Towns - Cunningham pairing would work .


The trade …

Knicks get:

Jalen Duren
Tobias Harris
Isaiah Stewart
1st round pick


Pistons get :

Karl Anthony Towns




Key reasons for trade

It Forces Brunson to create & pass more
The new NY Lob city ( Duren, Robinson )

Interior D becomes superior with
(Robinson & Duren)

(OG , Bridges ) get more touches & they become the focal Point of the offense

If More touches for Bridges & OG, Then least likely they struggles on offense and disappear during quarters.
Either Bridges and OG would be a +25ppg and can possibly be all stars..

The team becomes a Defensive juggernaut.
Robinson ,Duren ,OG ,Bridges ,Hart covering for Brunson’s shortcomings on defense .

We can even run a speedy small ball lineup of
Duren
OG
Bridges
Hart
Brunson

Not to mention Tobias Harris would be a great 16ppg along side Clarkson’s 16ppg off the bench.


Bench becomes deeper with

Isaiah Stewart
G Yabusele
Tobias Harris
Josh Hart
Jordan Clarkson



If it fails….
(Harris ,, Duren (restricted) are free agents by the end of the season they can open up $26-32 million dollars , give Knicks flexibility, (extend Mitch and Duren) while staying under the Apron. More assets for Giannis ig h

Knicks Roster after trade

Robinson Stewart
Duren Harris / Yabusele
Og Hart
Bridges Clarkson
Brunson McBride /Kolek


In addition ..
Knicks Also Receive a first round from Detroit which can be used to force another trade possibly mid season maybe Kessler
or hold it for Giannis ???


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Post#518 » by JayTWill » Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:19 pm

Juco24 wrote:
Spoiler:
Rodimus921 wrote:After the Pistons and Knicks playoffs, One thing that I remembered how I found Jalen Duren very impressive and dangerous against the Knicks . I saw a lot of a Alonzo Mourning -type of game on the defensive end , with the second chance points , intensity ,Hustling, Boxing out , rebounding , interior post moves , quick step long arms and occasional 14 foot jumper, passing to the open man . He is a def a man that lets the game come to him.

Jalen Duren vs Knicks 2025 1st round
https://youtu.be/DohuxNbWvhI?si=18HmhZYJHf7Ahiuu

https://youtu.be/YfyueI3-LXU?si=PKbQMfkN1h7YlVjD



Karl Anthony Towns, as much as he is one of the better shooting bigs he eventually did Hurt us Defensively in the playoffs and also a lot offensively . He lives and dies on that 3 , doesn’t take advantage on mismatches , soft. we lose interior rebounding when he camps, only leaves the center to fight for rebounds. If he is the center then there’s no big on the post grabbing rebounds , unless Hart is in the game. He Was truly exposed by Siakam as a liability in the ECF.

We made the trade for towns and we still lost to the Pacers . Since Boston , Pacers , 76ers are all out due to injuries , I would make a trade for Jalen Duren .

I know the Pistons need a 2nd star who can score
And I think a Towns - Cunningham pairing would work .


The trade …

Knicks get:

Jalen Duren
Tobias Harris
Isaiah Stewart
1st round pick


Pistons get :

Karl Anthony Towns




Key reasons for trade

It Forces Brunson to create & pass more
The new NY Lob city ( Duren, Robinson )

Interior D becomes superior with
(Robinson & Duren)

(OG , Bridges ) get more touches & they become the focal Point of the offense

If More touches for Bridges & OG, Then least likely they struggles on offense and disappear during quarters.
Either Bridges and OG would be a +25ppg and can possibly be all stars..

The team becomes a Defensive juggernaut.
Robinson ,Duren ,OG ,Bridges ,Hart covering for Brunson’s shortcomings on defense .

We can even run a speedy small ball lineup of
Duren
OG
Bridges
Hart
Brunson

Not to mention Tobias Harris would be a great 16ppg along side Clarkson’s 16ppg off the bench.


Bench becomes deeper with

Isaiah Stewart
G Yabusele
Tobias Harris
Josh Hart
Jordan Clarkson



If it fails….
(Harris ,, Duren (restricted) are free agents by the end of the season they can open up $26-32 million dollars , give Knicks flexibility, (extend Mitch and Duren) while staying under the Apron. More assets for Giannis ig h

Knicks Roster after trade

Robinson Stewart
Duren Harris / Yabusele
Og Hart
Bridges Clarkson
Brunson McBride /Kolek


In addition ..
Knicks Also Receive a first round from Detroit which can be used to force another trade possibly mid season maybe Kessler
or hold it for Giannis ???


You do realize we only have one roster spot? And no disrespect, but this is a video game trade idea. Lol


I'm not judging this trade but the last time I checked the Knicks still had 3 roster spots open and would still have 1 spot open after doing this 1 for 3 trade with more room under the 2nd apron.
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Post#519 » by Bob Ross » Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:27 pm

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Post#520 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:04 pm

Rodimus921 wrote:After the Pistons and Knicks playoffs, One thing that I remembered how I found Jalen Duren very impressive and dangerous against the Knicks . I saw a lot of a Alonzo Mourning -type of game on the defensive end , with the second chance points , intensity ,Hustling, Boxing out , rebounding , interior post moves , quick step long arms and occasional 14 foot jumper, passing to the open man . He is a def a man that lets the game come to him.

Jalen Duren vs Knicks 2025 1st round
https://youtu.be/DohuxNbWvhI?si=18HmhZYJHf7Ahiuu

https://youtu.be/YfyueI3-LXU?si=PKbQMfkN1h7YlVjD



Karl Anthony Towns, as much as he is one of the better shooting bigs he eventually did Hurt us Defensively in the playoffs and also a lot offensively . He lives and dies on that 3 , doesn’t take advantage on mismatches , soft. we lose interior rebounding when he camps, only leaves the center to fight for rebounds. If he is the center then there’s no big on the post grabbing rebounds , unless Hart is in the game. He Was truly exposed by Siakam as a liability in the ECF.

We made the trade for towns and we still lost to the Pacers . Since Boston , Pacers , 76ers are all out due to injuries , I would make a trade for Jalen Duren .

I know the Pistons need a 2nd star who can score
And I think a Towns - Cunningham pairing would work .


The trade …

Knicks get:

Jalen Duren
Tobias Harris
Isaiah Stewart
1st round pick


Pistons get :

Karl Anthony Towns




Key reasons for trade

It Forces Brunson to create & pass more
The new NY Lob city ( Duren, Robinson )

Interior D becomes superior with
(Robinson & Duren)

(OG , Bridges ) get more touches & they become the focal Point of the offense

If More touches for Bridges & OG, Then least likely they struggles on offense and disappear during quarters.
Either Bridges and OG would be a +25ppg and can possibly be all stars..

The team becomes a Defensive juggernaut.
Robinson ,Duren ,OG ,Bridges ,Hart covering for Brunson’s shortcomings on defense .

We can even run a speedy small ball lineup of
Duren
OG
Bridges
Hart
Brunson

Not to mention Tobias Harris would be a great 16ppg along side Clarkson’s 16ppg off the bench.


Bench becomes deeper with

Isaiah Stewart
G Yabusele
Tobias Harris
Josh Hart
Jordan Clarkson



If it fails….
(Harris ,, Duren (restricted) are free agents by the end of the season they can open up $26-32 million dollars , give Knicks flexibility, (extend Mitch and Duren) while staying under the Apron. More assets for Giannis ig h

Knicks Roster after trade

Robinson Stewart
Duren Harris / Yabusele
Og Hart
Bridges Clarkson
Brunson McBride /Kolek


In addition ..
Knicks Also Receive a first round from Detroit which can be used to force another trade possibly mid season maybe Kessler
or hold it for Giannis ???

I approve of any trade that brings Tobias Harris to the Knicks
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