2025 Training Camp and Preseaosn Thread

[CrimsonCrew]

i guess this means the team doesn't trust either Guerendo or James to stay healthy or contribute?

I read this as they want to go into the season with four RBs. They've lost Taylor and Kiner in the past two weeks, as well as Abdullah before that (though he was a bubble player). James is still out, and Guerendo is constantly injured. So the Robinson move makes some sense.

Didn't read the article, but I saw a Dieter Kurtenbach headline about how the Niners are making panic trades because of their poor roster construction. I can't agree with that given the nature of the trades we've seen. If they were trading for DL, CBs, TEs, sure. But they're trading for WRs and RBs, two positions that looked pretty good going into the season.

RB should have been a position of strength, but literally every player at the position except McCaffrey has dealt with injury. James and Kiner had no track record of injury, nor Taylor to my knowledge. Guerendo has a huge injury history, so not cutting any slack there, but that should have been a deep position based on roster moves.

WR was always going to be a bit dicey to start the season because of Aiyuk's injury and Robinson's likely suspension. But again, that's a position that has been decimated by injury. Jennings is hard to read given the circumstances, but if he truly has a recurring calf injury, it would make sense to be careful with him. Cowing hasn't been able to stay on the field despite holding the record for consecutive college games with a catch I think. Pearsall has struggled to stay healthy despite never missing a college game. Watkins went down. Gage went down. That's not a roster construction thing, though perhaps the blame falls elsewhere within the FO given the absurd numbers of injuries.

[CrimsonCrew]

That said, Guerendo fumbled three times in Thursday's practice, and had fumbling issues last year, so the coaches may be losing some faith in him. He seems like a guy who may be more tantalizing than productive.

[clyde21]

That said, Guerendo fumbled three times in Thursday's practice, and had fumbling issues last year, so the coaches may be losing some faith in him. He seems like a guy who may be more tantalizing than productive.

then that's another wasted 4th on a RB barely 2nd year into his contract

[CrimsonCrew]

That said, Guerendo fumbled three times in Thursday's practice, and had fumbling issues last year, so the coaches may be losing some faith in him. He seems like a guy who may be more tantalizing than productive.

then that's another wasted 4th on a RB barely 2nd year into his contract

Yeah, I've never loved the pick. Huge injury history, poor vision. The measurables are there, but if he can't get on the field or find open space, what good is it?

[CrimsonCrew]

Guerendo just got hurt going after a muffed punt. Of course.

[CrimsonCrew]

And Moody missed the XP. Because of course he did. I'd rather have a Robbie Gould, who's nails from 45 in, than a Moody, who could hit from 60 but might miss an XP that ultimately costs you a SB....

[Bald Bull]

Guerendo just got hurt going after a muffed punt. Of course.

it looked like it was just a stinger, hes back out there

[CrimsonCrew]

Good pressure from Evan Anderson there, who was held. Some promising young DL on this team. Which is good, because there are no good vets. Nice ball on the TD, despite pretty good coverage by Brown.

[arich35]

I get the injuries angle, but there is a real chance James is our 4th RB this year for the majority of the year unless multiple injuries happen for an extended period of time - seems like a wasted pick already.

There is just no way all 4 stay healthy the whole year. He will get plenty of chances and if he shows out in practice Kyle will put him in, we also know he doesn't play rookies a ton

[clyde21]

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it's **** odd how all the specialists we draft seem to be bad at that one special thing they're supposed to be good at

[clyde21]

how is he still on this team

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[Jikkle]

how is he still on this team

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At this point he shouldn't be.

I was fine having him compete and seeing if a new coach and an off-season to get his ankle right and refine his mechanics could salvage anything but it's clear he's still got the yips in him.

[CrimsonCrew]

Very good chance Moody costs us a game or two this year. Why even have a kicker competition if this is the result? Dude misses an XP and boots a KO five yards out of bounds. Can't have that sort of uncertainty at the position.

Just to rub a little salt in those wounds, a reminder that we spent a 3rd rounder on Moody the same year that Brandon Aubrey went undrafted. Aubrey wasn't as good this past year as he was as a rookie, but a league-leading 33 of his 47 attempts were from 40+, including 17 attempts from 50+. The next most-active long-range kicker (two of them) had 23 attempts from 40+.

[clyde21]

Very good chance Moody costs us a game or two this year. Why even have a kicker competition if this is the result? Dude misses an XP and boots a KO five yards out of bounds. Can't have that sort of uncertainty at the position.

Just to rub a little salt in those wounds, a reminder that we spent a 3rd rounder on Moody the same year that Brandon Aubrey went undrafted. Aubrey wasn't as good this past year as he was as a rookie, but a league-leading 33 of his 47 attempts were from 40+, including 17 attempts from 50+. The next most-active long-range kicker (two of them) had 23 attempts from 40+.

Fireable offense..I mean the big brain BS to draft a **** K in the 3rd like you've cracked the code or something is enough, but the dude ends up being *the* worst kicker in the league on top of it lmao...I'd fire both Shanny and Kyle just on this alone to make a point.

the fkn gall on these two lol

[CrimsonCrew]

We waived/injured Mordecai and Bradley. Does anyone understand the benefit to the waived/injured designation better than I do? There must be a reason we use it on guys who don't have season-ending injuries, but I don't know what it is. As far as I can tell, it means that we can't bring that guy back during the season. Why do that with players who have a minor injury that we might want on the PS at some point? Kiner, too, for that matter. Why not just cut him, put him on the PS, and then we could call him up in like Week 8 if we need RB depth? Does the injured tag make it less likely other teams will cut them?

[thesack12]

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Yeah, the Moody experience needs to end.

They had to pay him anyways, so keeping him going into the offseason/preseason and see what he was looking like made sense. But now, he's more than earned his pink slip. He's not reliable, like at all. Everytime he trots on the field, induces the "pucker" effect.

Shanalynch did an admirable job of not falling into the sunken cost trap with Trey Lance, so they can't allow themselves to fall into that same potential trap with Moody.

[thesack12]

Apparently they are telling Jauan Jennings that he may be put on IR if he doesn't back down on this contract stuff. Jennings has quite a few incentives built into his current deal, so that could be rather detrimental for him. Doing so would potentially create some bad blood between he and the team, but I side with the team on this one. Jennings is 1 year deep into a 2 year contract. This guy is a WR3 (granted a very good, and quite clutch one) but you can't have guys like that demanding to get their contracts redone.

In any event, WR is obviously looking pretty dire at the moment and will continue to be until at least week 4 when Robinson is eligible to return. The 9ers are obviously going to be hunting the final cutdown wire to find some WR help. Its going to be interesting to see who might become available, you'd hope someone who is familiar with the system hits the wire. That way that guy might be able to come in and provide some meaningful snaps in week 1.

[thesack12]

We waived/injured Mordecai and Bradley. Does anyone understand the benefit to the waived/injured designation better than I do? There must be a reason we use it on guys who don't have season-ending injuries, but I don't know what it is. As far as I can tell, it means that we can't bring that guy back during the season. Why do that with players who have a minor injury that we might want on the PS at some point? Kiner, too, for that matter. Why not just cut him, put him on the PS, and then we could call him up in like Week 8 if we need RB depth? Does the injured tag make it less likely other teams will cut them?

From what I gather, a team uses that distinction because if that player clears waivers then they revert to the team's IR list. In which case they are still "on the team" persay, therefore you can still have them in the building, etc.

I'm not sure what the cutoff is but I believe there is an NFL service time caveat that determines eligibility to use the clause. Which could explain why its usually young players where this happens.

So it allows teams to potentially get a longer look at guys, without them counting against the rosters.

[Harry Palmer]

I suspect we are going to get off to a much worse start than many expect, like I mean people calling for Kyle’s head bad in the first 4-6 games, but after that IF no more major injuries in those games, I think we start to roll.

[Pattersonca65]

Some good news on the injury front. Puni is looking good for week one. Hopefuly no stebacks or new injuries anywhere

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/193495-insider-shares-positive-update-dominick/