OT: Blue Jays have best record in baseball

[Raps in 4]

Hoffman is gonna cost this team.

Guy absolutely sucks.

A cocky scrub.

The FO is going to cost this team.

[Randle McMurphy]

Hoffman is gonna cost this team.

Guy absolutely sucks.

A cocky scrub.

The FO is going to cost this team.

They already have. We all know how this ends.

[DelAbbot]

Bring up Ye Savage to be closer like 2015 rookie Osuna

[DelAbbot]

Hoffman is gonna cost this team.

Guy absolutely sucks.

A cocky scrub.

The FO is going to cost this team.

They already have. We all know how this ends.

[raptorforlife88]

Technically, Trey Yesavage is our #1 prospect (ranked #26), and JoJo Parker is ranked higher too (#41 vs #51). We probably won't see Parker or Nimmala for another 3 seasons at minimum though, barring some major major leaps. Trey didn't do great in AAA, so might still be another year or 2 away from the bigs (if ever). I think Tiedemann probably ranks higher than both Parker/Nimmala if he wasn't injured.

None of the 3 are surefire prospects (I think Tiedemann probably had the most hype among them though). The thing with baseball prospects is that judging how they'll perform at the next level is way harder than it is for basketball prospects. Unless they're a true can't-miss prospect like a Bryce Harper or Kris Bryant or Vladdy, they often have to work their way up slowly and not only fit the role the team wants them to play, but also not be blocked at their position by an incumbent player. Kind of how we traded away Gabe Moreno for Varsho, because we already had Kirk at C.

What? Yesavage had one start in AAA and it went poorly and that is hardly indicative of not doing great in AAA, and it definitely is not indicative of being a year or two away. That's wild. He's gonna be in the majors at some point next year. It doesn't mean he's going to be successful in the majors cause that's the nature of baseball prospects, but he's going to be in the majors sooner than later.

Well he's gotta do better at AAA to get the call up. He might make an appearance next year, but WHEN, is also a question: which is why I said a year OR 2 away. If he fails at AAA again, does he get called up anyway? Maybe if there's injury but it's not a given esp if we're competing.

It was a ridiculous thing to say then, it looks moreso now if anything. You decided after one start that he "didn't do great in AAA". Now he's had 4 appearances, the last 3 he's done 12 and third innings, with 19 strikeouts to 5 walks and 4 runs given up. Excellent numbers. 2.9 ERA in those innings.

There's a non-zero chance he gets called up this year (through the injury exception).

Also Yesavage and Stanifer and 3rd and 5th in strikeouts this year in the minors.

[ontnut]

What? Yesavage had one start in AAA and it went poorly and that is hardly indicative of not doing great in AAA, and it definitely is not indicative of being a year or two away. That's wild. He's gonna be in the majors at some point next year. It doesn't mean he's going to be successful in the majors cause that's the nature of baseball prospects, but he's going to be in the majors sooner than later.

Well he's gotta do better at AAA to get the call up. He might make an appearance next year, but WHEN, is also a question: which is why I said a year OR 2 away. If he fails at AAA again, does he get called up anyway? Maybe if there's injury but it's not a given esp if we're competing.

It was a ridiculous thing to say then, it looks moreso now if anything. You decided after one start that he "didn't do great in AAA". Now he's had 4 appearances, the last 3 he's done 12 and third innings, with 19 strikeouts to 5 walks and 4 runs given up. Excellent numbers. 2.9 ERA in those innings.

There's a non-zero chance he gets called up this year (through the injury exception).

Also Yesavage and Stanifer and 3rd and 5th in strikeouts this year in the minors.

He's looked better in the last few outings.
So....do you think Trey is going to be on our playoff roster?
Or do you think he's still a year or two away from contributing on the big boy roster?
Look back on what I said. I said he's our #1 prospect. I like the guy, But I also have realistic expectations. You say there is a "non-zero chance" he gets the call up. Want to place a RGM signature bet on this?? Call it.

[beanbag]

Well he's gotta do better at AAA to get the call up. He might make an appearance next year, but WHEN, is also a question: which is why I said a year OR 2 away. If he fails at AAA again, does he get called up anyway? Maybe if there's injury but it's not a given esp if we're competing.

It was a ridiculous thing to say then, it looks moreso now if anything. You decided after one start that he "didn't do great in AAA". Now he's had 4 appearances, the last 3 he's done 12 and third innings, with 19 strikeouts to 5 walks and 4 runs given up. Excellent numbers. 2.9 ERA in those innings.

There's a non-zero chance he gets called up this year (through the injury exception).

Also Yesavage and Stanifer and 3rd and 5th in strikeouts this year in the minors.

He's looked better in the last few outings.
So....do you think Trey is going to be on our playoff roster?
Or do you think he's still a year or two away from contributing on the big boy roster?
Look back on what I said. I said he's our #1 prospect. I like the guy, But I also have realistic expectations. You say there is a "non-zero chance" he gets the call up. Want to place a RGM signature bet on this?? Call it.

Do you know what "non-zero" means?

[GreatWhiteStiff]

What? Yesavage had one start in AAA and it went poorly and that is hardly indicative of not doing great in AAA, and it definitely is not indicative of being a year or two away. That's wild. He's gonna be in the majors at some point next year. It doesn't mean he's going to be successful in the majors cause that's the nature of baseball prospects, but he's going to be in the majors sooner than later.

Well he's gotta do better at AAA to get the call up. He might make an appearance next year, but WHEN, is also a question: which is why I said a year OR 2 away. If he fails at AAA again, does he get called up anyway? Maybe if there's injury but it's not a given esp if we're competing.

It was a ridiculous thing to say then, it looks moreso now if anything. You decided after one start that he "didn't do great in AAA". Now he's had 4 appearances, the last 3 he's done 12 and third innings, with 19 strikeouts to 5 walks and 4 runs given up. Excellent numbers. 2.9 ERA in those innings.

There's a non-zero chance he gets called up this year (through the injury exception).

Also Yesavage and Stanifer and 3rd and 5th in strikeouts this year in the minors.

55 strikeouts in 33 innings is kinda insane for yesavage. Of 100 outs 55 by strikeout I think. Still I will say ye'r a savage for making him our closer, DelAbbot.

[raptorforlife88]

Well he's gotta do better at AAA to get the call up. He might make an appearance next year, but WHEN, is also a question: which is why I said a year OR 2 away. If he fails at AAA again, does he get called up anyway? Maybe if there's injury but it's not a given esp if we're competing.

It was a ridiculous thing to say then, it looks moreso now if anything. You decided after one start that he "didn't do great in AAA". Now he's had 4 appearances, the last 3 he's done 12 and third innings, with 19 strikeouts to 5 walks and 4 runs given up. Excellent numbers. 2.9 ERA in those innings.

There's a non-zero chance he gets called up this year (through the injury exception).

Also Yesavage and Stanifer and 3rd and 5th in strikeouts this year in the minors.

He's looked better in the last few outings.
So....do you think Trey is going to be on our playoff roster?
Or do you think he's still a year or two away from contributing on the big boy roster?
Look back on what I said. I said he's our #1 prospect. I like the guy, But I also have realistic expectations. You say there is a "non-zero chance" he gets the call up. Want to place a RGM signature bet on this?? Call it.

Just to repeat what the other person said, non-zero means a chance, but a very small one. But a less small one than saying he's two years away personally. I think it's ultimately unlikely he makes it onto the roster this year given he had a lousy outing today.

But I would give you 8-1 cash odds on him being two years away, on a $20 bet since you it sounds like you think there's a decent chance he's not going to be on the roster next year. I'll give you 160 if he doesn't make it onto the roster at some point next year. If he gets tommy john, then I think it's fair to not complete the deal, but you can negotiate that into the odds.

Either way, my greater point was obviously that it doesn't make any sense to say he was not doing well at AAA after a single start. Why would you judge any pitcher on one start, it's absurd. Great pitchers have bad one off games all the time.

[ontnut]

It was a ridiculous thing to say then, it looks moreso now if anything. You decided after one start that he "didn't do great in AAA". Now he's had 4 appearances, the last 3 he's done 12 and third innings, with 19 strikeouts to 5 walks and 4 runs given up. Excellent numbers. 2.9 ERA in those innings.

There's a non-zero chance he gets called up this year (through the injury exception).

Also Yesavage and Stanifer and 3rd and 5th in strikeouts this year in the minors.

He's looked better in the last few outings.
So....do you think Trey is going to be on our playoff roster?
Or do you think he's still a year or two away from contributing on the big boy roster?
Look back on what I said. I said he's our #1 prospect. I like the guy, But I also have realistic expectations. You say there is a "non-zero chance" he gets the call up. Want to place a RGM signature bet on this?? Call it.

Just to repeat what the other person said, non-zero means a chance, but a very small one. But a less small one than saying he's two years away personally. I think it's ultimately unlikely he makes it onto the roster this year given he had a lousy outing today.

But I would give you 8-1 cash odds on him being two years away, on a $20 bet since you it sounds like you think there's a decent chance he's not going to be on the roster next year. I'll give you 160 if he doesn't make it onto the roster at some point next year. If he gets tommy john, then I think it's fair to not complete the deal, but you can negotiate that into the odds.

Either way, my greater point was obviously that it doesn't make any sense to say he was not doing well at AAA after a single start. Why would you judge any pitcher on one start, it's absurd. Great pitchers have bad one off games all the time.

Lol...I guess a lot of people failed grade school reading comprehension.

My OP:

Trey didn't do great in AAA, so might still be another year or 2 away from the bigs (if ever).

Key words: another year OR 2 away. Also...yes I mentioned his one AAA start, but it's funny how the assumption is that I haven't seen his other minor league peformances. Eye test maybe matters. Has anyone else been following the Jays' minors? Even watched an inning?

Do I think he gets called up at some point next year? Probably...one would surely hope so. I said he's our top prospect when others neglected him lol.

Does he stick in the bigs next year? I doubt it. 2 years is probably a better timeline for him. That's why I said he's a year...OR TWO...away.

I will take your 8-1 cash odds. What's your minimum innings pitched in the '25-'26 season? Be realistic. Or do you think he makes opening day roster? What's your paramaters?

It's hilarious to me how people are calling out he's going to be an injury exception call up, as if that means anything. It's like saying the Raptors signed some 10 day contract guy and he's going to be our next backup _____. 80%+ of the time, those guys never stick in the NBA. In this case, you think is Trey a permanent big league rotation guy in the next 300 days? Is he a 26-man roster guy in the next year or two?

Y'all must be nuts. Give me those 8-1 odds on Trey being a permanent/significant part of our opening day/26 man roster next season. Who's holding the $$?

[raptorforlife88]

Key words: another year OR 2 away. Also...yes I mentioned his one AAA start, but it's funny how the assumption is that I haven't seen his other minor league peformances. Eye test maybe matters. Has anyone else been following the Jays' minors? Even watched an inning?

Do I think he gets called up at some point next year? Probably...one would surely hope so. I said he's our top prospect when others neglected him lol.

Does he stick in the bigs next year? I doubt it. 2 years is probably a better timeline for him. That's why I said he's a year...OR TWO...away.

I will take your 8-1 cash odds. What's your minimum innings pitched in the '25-'26 season? Be realistic. Or do you think he makes opening day roster? What's your paramaters?

It's hilarious to me how people are calling out he's going to be an injury exception call up, as if that means anything. It's like saying the Raptors signed some 10 day contract guy and he's going to be our next backup _____. 80%+ of the time, those guys never stick in the NBA. In this case, you think is Trey a permanent big league rotation guy in the next 300 days? Is he a 26-man roster guy in the next year or two?

Y'all must be nuts. Give me those 8-1 odds on Trey being a permanent/significant part of our opening day/26 man roster next season. Who's holding the $$?

Dmed you. Innings minimum would shift the odds, but let's work out what we think it should be.

Also injury exception call up is something that's happened with other prospects and is hardly comparable to a 10 day from the Raptors, given it's a team that actually hopes to go deep in the playoffs. That's weird comparison.