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Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? HE PULLED A MAGIC TRICK, HES NOT AN NBA PLAYER!!! HES A CHINA LEVEL PLAYER!!!

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Is Moody an NBA Caliber player?

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Post#781 » by statsman » Fri May 23, 2025 12:42 am

Hopefully, Moody's role will be explicitly defined heading into training camp.

But for me, it comes down to the following:
- If JK is moved in free agency (S&T or unmatched RFA offer), keep Moody.
- If JK is retained on a contract extension or matched RFA offer, trade Moody.
- If JK plays for the QO (*real long shot*, less than the Mavs winning the #1 pick), keep both.
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Post#782 » by EvanZ » Fri May 23, 2025 7:25 pm

It's funny listening to Steve talk about JK and Moody on the TK pod yesterday. There's two ways to interpret it. If you take him at his word then it sounds very obvious he doesn't like JK's fit with this team and he loves Moody's fit. He really went to the mat for Moses to praise his improvements last season and downplay his struggle towards the end. It sounded like Kerr is excited to have Moody develop even more next season.

Now there's the other way to take Kerr's comments, which is that he's overselling Moody to make him look more attractive as a trade chip and tanking Kuminga's market value to make him cheaper for us to re-sign.

As a Moody true believer, I'd like to believe Kerr is being "sincere", but I can understand why people would be skeptical.
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Post#783 » by xdrta+ » Fri May 23, 2025 7:53 pm

EvanZ wrote:As a Moody true believer, I'd like to believe Kerr is being "sincere", but I can understand why people would be skeptical.


I believe Kerr. I said before and I still think that Moody, at 11.5, 12.5, and 13.5, will show out as one of the best value contracts in the league over the next 3 years. IMO, in 27-28, when the cap is close to $190M, that 13.5 will look like an impossible bargain.
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Post#784 » by TB » Fri May 23, 2025 8:31 pm

I love that Moses is basically a plug and play at the 2, 3, or 4 that fits with anyone. Makes roster building much easier having someone that can fill multiple roles.

He’s just gotta get that thumb healed and have a really good training camp so he can play with confidence and joy more consistently. Thats been his main obstacle he’s dealt with during his rookie contract… getting in his own head worrying about the outcome too much and getting timid.

Still dont get why Kerr went away from Steph, Podz, Moody, Jimmy, Dray…. they had a +18 rating in 210 minutes in the regular season. Only 39 minutes in the playoffs with a -1 net rating and once Jimmy hurt his back-side Kerr never went back to it.
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Post#785 » by EvanZ » Sat May 24, 2025 2:18 am

TB wrote:I love that Moses is basically a plug and play at the 2, 3, or 4 that fits with anyone. Makes roster building much easier having someone that can fill multiple roles.

He’s just gotta get that thumb healed and have a really good training camp so he can play with confidence and joy more consistently. Thats been his main obstacle he’s dealt with during his rookie contract… getting in his own head worrying about the outcome too much and getting timid.

Still dont get why Kerr went away from Steph, Podz, Moody, Jimmy, Dray…. they had a +18 rating in 210 minutes in the regular season. Only 39 minutes in the playoffs with a -1 net rating and once Jimmy hurt his back-side Kerr never went back to it.


Maybe that coincided with his injury. What's weird is that for everyone else Celebrini treats them with kid gloves. So did they actually not know Moody was dealing with this until after the season? Or did they know and they thought he could play through it? Was it an acute injury or did it get aggravated by repeated use? I wish we knew but given how "unimportant" Moody is, the Slaters of the world will never bother asking these questions. :lol:
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Post#786 » by wco81 » Sat May 24, 2025 2:40 am

Moody had other issues than his thumb.

Just not athletic or skilled enough when closed out. No ability to attack the closeouts. Thumb may affect the but he showed complete inability.

Hope he rehabs quickly so he can work on skills and physical development in the offseason -- hit the weight room.
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Post#787 » by Nvnervous45 » Sat May 24, 2025 3:45 am

I think moody is strong enough.i would say that he should work on hitting the 3 when he isn't wide open.
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Post#788 » by TB » Sat May 24, 2025 4:18 am

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TB wrote:I love that Moses is basically a plug and play at the 2, 3, or 4 that fits with anyone. Makes roster building much easier having someone that can fill multiple roles.

He’s just gotta get that thumb healed and have a really good training camp so he can play with confidence and joy more consistently. Thats been his main obstacle he’s dealt with during his rookie contract… getting in his own head worrying about the outcome too much and getting timid.

Still dont get why Kerr went away from Steph, Podz, Moody, Jimmy, Dray…. they had a +18 rating in 210 minutes in the regular season. Only 39 minutes in the playoffs with a -1 net rating and once Jimmy hurt his back-side Kerr never went back to it.


Maybe that coincided with his injury. What's weird is that for everyone else Celebrini treats them with kid gloves. So did they actually not know Moody was dealing with this until after the season? Or did they know and they thought he could play through it? Was it an acute injury or did it get aggravated by repeated use? I wish we knew but given how "unimportant" Moody is, the Slaters of the world will never bother asking these questions. :lol:


Good point. The timing of the thumb injury definitely could have been a factor.. and yes nobody will ask about it lol.
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Post#790 » by whatisacenter » Mon Sep 8, 2025 11:18 pm

EvanZ wrote:LETS GOOOOOO

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Post#791 » by AirP. » Tue Sep 9, 2025 8:59 pm

EvanZ wrote:
TB wrote:I love that Moses is basically a plug and play at the 2, 3, or 4 that fits with anyone. Makes roster building much easier having someone that can fill multiple roles.

He’s just gotta get that thumb healed and have a really good training camp so he can play with confidence and joy more consistently. Thats been his main obstacle he’s dealt with during his rookie contract… getting in his own head worrying about the outcome too much and getting timid.

Still dont get why Kerr went away from Steph, Podz, Moody, Jimmy, Dray…. they had a +18 rating in 210 minutes in the regular season. Only 39 minutes in the playoffs with a -1 net rating and once Jimmy hurt his back-side Kerr never went back to it.


Maybe that coincided with his injury. What's weird is that for everyone else Celebrini treats them with kid gloves. So did they actually not know Moody was dealing with this until after the season? Or did they know and they thought he could play through it? Was it an acute injury or did it get aggravated by repeated use? I wish we knew but given how "unimportant" Moody is, the Slaters of the world will never bother asking these questions. :lol:


I like Moody for what he is, a defensive role-player who looks like he can hit open 3s and attack the basket when given the opportunity. Basically, he plays within his predefined role and at this point I doubt he becomes more than that at the NBA level.

Moody thought he could play through the injruy (he didn't know how bad it was nor asked to have it checked) and it doesn't seem he brought it up to the team. He did an interview a couple months ago with 95.7 letting them know what went on and why he had surgery. He tried to play through it.

“It was really tough,” Moody told 95.7 The Game's "Willard & Dibs." “I didn’t know it was torn at that point, but I couldn’t really use it and it hurt to catch the ball, to dribble the ball, all of that type of stuff. But I mean, I could play around it. I’d make it a point to say, like if I’m going to play, then I’m not going to say, ‘Ok, every time I mess up it’s because my hand hurt.’ Like if that’s the case, then you shouldn’t play.”


However, Moody said dealing with the injury was no easy matter since, essentially, he couldn’t even use his thumb when playing.

“So that ligament really is your thumb, I couldn’t palm the ball, so pretty much anything using your thumb,” Moody said. “But, I made ways, to like I would shoot without my thumb and then I would catch the ball without it hitting my thumb. And it was weird in the beginning but once I started doing it enough that that became kind of my new normal and now I’m trying to teach myself to start using my thumb again.”


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Post#792 » by statsman » Tue Sep 9, 2025 9:20 pm

AirP. wrote:I like Moody for what he is, a defensive role-player who looks like he can hit open 3s and attack the basket when given the opportunity. Basically, he plays within his predefined role and at this point I doubt he becomes more than that at the NBA level.

What was encouraging was Moody's improvement on FTs after the Butler trade. He shot 87% FT the rest of the regular season and postseason combined, even with his thumb banged up. Up to the time of his injury in the Bucks game, it was 89.4%.
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Post#793 » by watch1958 » Tue Sep 9, 2025 9:52 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
EvanZ wrote:LETS GOOOOOO

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That was an hour of the guy in the red shorts talking....

Yeah. I kinda wish the other guy (the demonstrator) had been working with him for the last few years.

Disheartening that the primary trainer took four plus years to get to this.
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Post#794 » by AirP. » Tue Sep 9, 2025 10:47 pm

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AirP. wrote:I like Moody for what he is, a defensive role-player who looks like he can hit open 3s and attack the basket when given the opportunity. Basically, he plays within his predefined role and at this point I doubt he becomes more than that at the NBA level.

What was encouraging was Moody's improvement on FTs after the Butler trade. He shot 87% FT the rest of the regular season and postseason combined, even with his thumb banged up. Up to the time of his injury in the Bucks game, it was 89.4%.


I went back to last year looking to see how he shot the ball on FTs vs after injured, he was utilizing his thumb a lot on free throws not how he was after the injury, after the Bucks game he was actively keeping the thumb away from the ball on FTs.

I believe the way Butler plays it gets lesser players in more of the flow of their own offense which helps with confidence. Butlers had some monster playoff games but him making his teammates around him better was the key. Game 1 of the 2023 NBA Finals it was Butler, Bam and 3 other starters that made a combined 10.1 million dollars (Strus 1.8, Vincent 1.8, C.Martin, 6.5), K.Love started a few games, and he only made 3.1 mil.

Here's an image from Moody shooting one of his FTs when he went 4-4 on April 3rd, 2025 vs LAL, notice he's making sure to keep his thumb away from the ball, also, when giving 5s he kept his thumb straight out trying to keep it from being hit.
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