League inflating players heights is out of control

[Mirotic12]

Yeah, I made comment how NBA really exaggerate their heights for no reason, and I mentioned Sabonis in particular, because that one is just dumb, it just made up out of nowhere, because it is not even close to reality. I somehow deleted the comment before posting, so you beat me at this...

No dunks crew talked about Charles Barkley, they used to work in same studio in Atlanta, and they always said Trey Kerby is taller than barkley, and Trey is 6'4 according to them. Bakley is famously very undersized, but NBA still listed him at 6'6 I believe, where in real peoples word, but was maybe 6'3 and a half.

We Euros caught up to that a long time ago I feel, when we talk prospects, we take that into consideration now. When Euro is listed 6'10 in Europe, we now all say in the NBA, that guy will instantly turn 7'0 and wont be shorter than most guys who are ''7 footers'' over there. Thats just how it is and everyone knows it.

What was Arvydas Sabonis real height? 220, 221, 222, 223 or 224. Or maybe less?

I think Arvydas was legit 7'3 guy, so around 222. When he was playing, they used to say his height was 222, but after retirement, when he invested in that clothing company that got called 220, because thats his height apparently, so now everyone in Lithuania says Arvydas is 220, tho I think they arounded the number to make it sound better on brand? I definitely do not think he was shorter than 220. But he is way taller than his son, Domantas is shorter than most of his match ups, he is like 6'10, he is strong tho, but him being listed 7'1 is just compliete lie and I do not know who came up with it, it is not even close to reality. Jonas in real life is around 6'11, but as we alreaydy talked about, by NBA standards he is 7'0, and hes taller than Sabonis is.

Most NBA players are shorter than listed, but we had opposite cases, like Kevin Durant forever listed at 6'9, but then he would stand to 7'1 listed Marc Gasol, and they were basically same height. You can just never trust NBA listed heights at all. KG was aso listed at 6'11, but he was taller than a lot of guys listed 7+.

Here is the ACB height listing for Sabonis, which is barefoot and pre NBA.

https://www.acb.com/jugador/temporada-a-temporada/id/20200678

Arvydas Sabonis
Equipo: Real Madrid
Dorsal: 11
Posición: Pívot
Altura: 2,22 m

So, according to his ACB listing from 1992, Sabonis was 7'3 1/2" barefoot.

Which actually sounds about right. Because I remember seeing an article where they said Shaq was over 7'2" in his playing shoes. It was some article from the time he was on the Lakers.

So, Sabonis would have been around 7'5" in shoes. And when him and Shaq used to play against each other, Sabonis was very clearly 2 to 3 inches taller than Shaq.

[Cavsfansince84]

Barkley's height was not inflated that much. He is basically the same height as MJ(6-4.5) and both were listed at 6-6. Rodman at 6-8 or Big Ben at 6-9 were both inflated more.

[D.Brasco]

Lol this is an issue about 40 years too late. Ralph Samson was really about Kareem's height, not actually 7'4". I think the league has actually gotten better recently.

[Black Jack]

Standing reach should be what we really compare.

[HardenGoat]

she's hot, thats all I got from it

[Sane]

What the actual F? Of course list them with the shoes included.

99.9% of the time I see them, they have shoes on and are going up against people with shoes on. They are taller with shoes on. That's their size on the court in relation to the specific size of the court and the height of the basket and everything else.

[Mirotic12]

Barkley's height was not inflated that much. He is basically the same height as MJ(6-4.5) and both were listed at 6-6. Rodman at 6-8 or Big Ben at 6-9 were both inflated more.

Barkley's booking photo had him at 6-7. Pictures from the time showed him in huge cowboy boots, with like 2 to 3 inch heels.

Then you have about 2 inches of height distortion that occurs in the camera image.

So that would put him at no taller than 6-3, if he was standing up straight, which they are supposed to make you do when they take the picture, for accuracy in identification.

[Cavsfansince84]

Barkley's booking photo had him at 6-7. Pictures from the time showed him in huge cowboy boots, with like 2 to 3 inch heels.

Then you have about 2 inches of height distortion that occurs in the camera image.

So that would put him at no taller than 6-3, if he was standing up straight, which they are supposed to make you do when they take the picture, for accuracy in identification.

Believe w/e you want to on this bro. I watched enough games of Barkley and MJ to know they are almost the exact same height. Just under 6-5.

[Mirotic12]

Barkley's booking photo had him at 6-7. Pictures from the time showed him in huge cowboy boots, with like 2 to 3 inch heels.

Then you have about 2 inches of height distortion that occurs in the camera image.

So that would put him at no taller than 6-3, if he was standing up straight, which they are supposed to make you do when they take the picture, for accuracy in identification.

Believe w/e you want to on this bro. I watched enough games of Barkley and MJ to know they are almost the exact same height. Just under 6-5.

It's not a belief. It's an actual measurement and photo, and with known shoe heel size and camera distance distortion.

The only way he could be 6-5 was if they made him take the boots off for the shot. But they normally have people keep shoes on, because if they didn't, the photo area would be spreading things like athlete's foot to everyone that stood there.

Other than that, he would have been 6-4, if he was wearing more normal heeled shoes. But the media pictures from the time, showed him in cowboy boots.

[Cavsfansince84]

It's not a belief. It's an actual measurement and photo, and with known shoe heel size and camera distance distortion.

It's you believing what you want to. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Mirotic12]

It's not a belief. It's an actual measurement and photo, and with known shoe heel size and camera distance distortion.

It's you believing what you want to. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's actually you choosing to believe your personal opinion, over an actual independent (as in non NBA) measurement.

[Cavsfansince84]

It's actually you choosing to believe your personal opinion, over an actual measurement.

Nothing you are saying is actual anything bro. You are using guesses based on shoe height and camera distortion to try and state a fact. Sorry if I as someone who has seen this topic discussed a thousand times before and who watched dozens if not well over a hundred games Barkley played in don't agree with you. Somehow you'll have to accept this and move on.

[D.Brasco]

What the actual F? Of course list them with the shoes included.

99.9% of the time I see them, they have shoes on and are going up against people with shoes on. They are taller with shoes on. That's their size on the court in relation to the specific size of the court and the height of the basket and everything else.

Yes sure, and list NFL players in their cleats height and NHL players in skates.

Are you George Costanza by the way?

[Moahst]

I always used to laugh when they'd list Aaron Brooks at 6′ 0″. I think there's some pre draft shenanigans probably orchestrated by agents for point guards to be listed at AT LEAST 6' and center prospects to be 7'. And if you're a power forward you're supposed to be above 6'6''. It probably does help your draft stock.

[LuDux1]

I always used to laugh when they'd list Aaron Brooks at 6′ 0″. I think there's some pre draft shenanigans probably orchestrated by agents for point guards to be listed at AT LEAST 6' and center prospects to be 7'. And if you're a power forward you're supposed to be above 6'6''. It probably does help your draft stock.

If team drafts player because of his height on paper they deserve everything that's coming

[the sea duck]

Ive always went by players in shoes height bc ppl always referred to mj and kobe as 6'6 but then ppl are so adamant to call charles barkley 6'4 when hes the same height as Jordan barefoot and in 6'6 in shoes.

Barkley recently said Jordan was "a little bit taller than him" so Jordan might've been like 6'5 because Barkley was at least 6'4.

[the sea duck]

Barkley's booking photo had him at 6-7. Pictures from the time showed him in huge cowboy boots, with like 2 to 3 inch heels.

Then you have about 2 inches of height distortion that occurs in the camera image.

So that would put him at no taller than 6-3, if he was standing up straight, which they are supposed to make you do when they take the picture, for accuracy in identification.

Believe w/e you want to on this bro. I watched enough games of Barkley and MJ to know they are almost the exact same height. Just under 6-5.

It's not a belief. It's an actual measurement and photo, and with known shoe heel size and camera distance distortion.

The only way he could be 6-5 was if they made him take the boots off for the shot. But they normally have people keep shoes on, because if they didn't, the photo area would be spreading things like athlete's foot to everyone that stood there.

Other than that, he would have been 6-4, if he was wearing more normal heeled shoes. But the media pictures from the time, showed him in cowboy boots.

Barkley is a minimum of 6'3 now and he's 62 years old. I think he was a minimum of 6'4 during his playing days. Honestly he might even be 6'4 now depending on the estimated heights of others he's been around.

[balrog27]

I thought they changed it couple years ago and they are measuring them these guys. that's why KD is not listed at 6'11 not 6'9.

[FollowTheSound]

I always used to laugh when they'd list Aaron Brooks at 6′ 0″. I think there's some pre draft shenanigans probably orchestrated by agents for point guards to be listed at AT LEAST 6' and center prospects to be 7'. And if you're a power forward you're supposed to be above 6'6''. It probably does help your draft stock.

Guys like Lowry, Chris Paul, Iverson are all under 6ft

[Lalouie]

Players adding at least 2 inches to their height based on what I've noticed.
Cooper Flagg pre-draft measurements is 6’7.75” without shoes yet more than 2 years ago he's the same height as alleged 6ft 9 LeBron James:


League has all the tools in the world to do complete measurement scans to accurately represent the players.. Yet they continue to conduct themselves like WWE.

roster photo in front of bleachers or arena seats is all you need
everyone on the same plane, no one slouching, usually a standard camera height, usually a portrait type lens that doesn't barrel. and even if there's an arc, you can still eyeball everyone's height by the horizontal lines

you only get bad alignment if the camera is way too low or too high

you will not get good height if you're looking at stuff like snapshots