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[HeatFanLifer]

Tua threw a bunch of check downs.. at one point late in the third qtr his throws were averaging less than 4 yards in the air…

On replays there were opportunities for first downs but he does not have the confidence in his arm strength to make that throw in tight windows.

He has 2 of the best deep threats in the NFL.

Tua has got to go. He will never have it. Arm strength isnt teachable, its a physical skill that you either have it or you dont.

For the second game in a row, he threw an interception at clutch time.

Feel bad for Tua. Every time I see his head hit, even lightly I am like oof. He looks like a guy with a good head on his shoulders, but damn that brain is gone. He can’t even process the game at a fast pace anymore. I wish him well on future endeavors, hopefully off the field.

[Vertical Limit]

I want yall to give your opinion of this segway in the middle of the game last night.. do you feel this was ppropriate to bring up, whether true or not? It is a vid/reel so you gotta click it

[unowen85]

It’s not appropriate. I’m just trying to watch the game.

And speaking of the game, how deflating was that Sieler penalty. Tua was probably over there on the sidelines thinking about how this was going to be his turn to make a statement to all the people saying he couldn’t beat good teams. And then Sieler just takes away that opportunity with his own career defining blunder. And more than likely, Tua wasn’t going to do crap if Sieler doesn’t commit the penalty, probably a three and out with the usual incompletion, short run, screen pass short of first down that we’re used to. But man was I rooting for him tonight to get a big win.

I’m not a Tua stan, and I hope we get a replacement for him in the draft, but I can also appreciate that he’s likely been our best quarterback since Marino.

[Vertical Limit]

It’s not appropriate. I’m just trying to watch the game.

And speaking of the game, how deflating was that Sieler penalty. Tua was probably over there on the sidelines thinking about how this was going to be his turn to make a statement to all the people saying he couldn’t beat good teams. And then Sieler just takes away that opportunity with his own career defining blunder. And more than likely, Tua wasn’t going to do crap if Sieler doesn’t commit the penalty, probably a three and out with the usual incompletion, short run, screen pass short of first down that we’re used to. But man was I rooting for him tonight to get a big win.

I’m not a Tua stan, and I hope we get a replacement for him in the draft, but I can also appreciate that he’s likely been our best quarterback since Marino.

Sieler just got paid a nice extension and three games in.. the only time ive seen him this year is that roughing the punter penalty.. he has been a complete no show.. dolphins fans love him , he aint done ****…

Tua is the Tyler Herro of the dolphins.. skillfully limited, always comes up short, overpaid and overrated

[Vertical Limit]

You have to be extremely bad when you have 2 of the top 10 deep threats in the league and your average “air” yards is 4 yards

[3ammy3uck3ts]

You have to be extremely bad when you have 2 of the top 10 deep threats in the league and your average “air” yards is 4 yards

But to be fair, prior to all the concussions he had Hill and Waddle eating. I believe Hill had the best season of his career and Waddle was like top 5 or 3 or some ish in total yards. Achane and Mostert were cooking, the defense was good, the O line was solid. The entire team sucks now honestly and yea Tuas brain is cooked

[Tim_Hardawayy]

You have to be extremely bad when you have 2 of the top 10 deep threats in the league and your average “air” yards is 4 yards

But to be fair, prior to all the concussions he had Hill and Waddle eating. I believe Hill had the best season of his career and Waddle was like top 5 or 3 or some ish in total yards. Achane and Mostert were cooking, the defense was good, the O line was solid. The entire team sucks now honestly and yea Tuas brain is cooked

He looked good, but even then it never really came against the good teams (though it was a small sample size). This has always been the knock on him. Unfortunately he is what he is now.

I didn't get to see prime Marino (though seen plenty of clips), but even older Dan, no quarterback I've seen for the Dolphins since has given me anything close to that level of confidence in the team. Its a shame, we had arguably the greatest quarterback of all time, and failed him for his nearly 20 year career in building a team around him, and now we've been cursed for the past 25 years to have nobody come close to filling his shoes. It'd be like if we never got Wade his Shaq or LeBron, AND Wade never gets hurt so he goes on to have a Jordan like career breaking records but without the championships. Just nothing but bitter feelings to the Dolphins organization, glad my dad got to enjoy a perfect season but for those of us born after the 70's its been a really, really rough go.

As it is, I'm on the "Tua has to go" bandwagon, he is what he is and in the NFL more than any sport, you NEED a great one at quarterback, especially with the rule changes that completely favor passing now. His backups suck too, so its gotta come from the draft. No more trying to grab free agents either, yeah we missed out on Drew Brees but that rarely happens anyways, most end up like a Culpepper or Trent Green or Joey Harrington, meaning they're used goods for a reason.

[HeatFanLifer]

You have to be extremely bad when you have 2 of the top 10 deep threats in the league and your average “air” yards is 4 yards

But to be fair, prior to all the concussions he had Hill and Waddle eating. I believe Hill had the best season of his career and Waddle was like top 5 or 3 or some ish in total yards. Achane and Mostert were cooking, the defense was good, the O line was solid. The entire team sucks now honestly and yea Tuas brain is cooked

He looked good, but even then it never really came against the good teams (though it was a small sample size). This has always been the knock on him. Unfortunately he is what he is now.

I didn't get to see prime Marino (though seen plenty of clips), but even older Dan, no quarterback I've seen for the Dolphins since has given me anything close to that level of confidence in the team. Its a shame, we had arguably the greatest quarterback of all time, and failed him for his nearly 20 year career in building a team around him, and now we've been cursed for the past 25 years to have nobody come close to filling his shoes. It'd be like if we never got Wade his Shaq or LeBron, AND Wade never gets hurt so he goes on to have a Jordan like career breaking records but without the championships. Just nothing but bitter feelings to the Dolphins organization, glad my dad got to enjoy a perfect season but for those of us born after the 70's its been a really, really rough go.

As it is, I'm on the "Tua has to go" bandwagon, he is what he is and in the NFL more than any sport, you NEED a great one at quarterback, especially with the rule changes that completely favor passing now. His backups suck too, so its gotta come from the draft. No more trying to grab free agents either, yeah we missed out on Drew Brees but that rarely happens anyways, most end up like a Culpepper or Trent Green or Joey Harrington, meaning they're used goods for a reason.

If I am the owner of the Dolphins the first thing I do is build from the highest level. Not the coach, not the GM. I am talking about the chief of staff to the owner. This is the guy whose job it is to not tell the coach or GM what to do, but to find the right people for those primary decision maker roles. It seems like an easy enough job, but hiring the right people for the right roles and keeping them happy is a really tough job. This is a person who conveys confidence in his team, but also knows how to challenge them. I do not know who they could hire for this role, but whoever they have now, if anyone, isn’t cutting it.

Grier clearly has to go too, but how the fins get their next GM should come down to a decision from a person with a track record of success. Not the current group of losers. This person should be hired now with the task of turning this team into a contender within 5 years. Winning a superbowl is really tough, but smart team planning can set your team up to compete for one.

[HeatFanLifer]

I’m not a Tua stan, and I hope we get a replacement for him in the draft, but I can also appreciate that he’s likely been our best quarterback since Marino.

Best QB since Marino was Chad Pennington. Followed by Fitzpatrick. Every one else has been at best nothing but hype followed by no post season success.

[contract]

Fitzpatrick had a losing record. Up until the start of this season, Tua was easily the best QB the Dolphins have had since Marino. But he's just imploding now. The Dolphins should probably get over the star QB thing and focus on building a strong offensive line so they can run the ball and survive mediocre QBing.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Find a way to get Lamar home.

[HeatFanLifer]

Fitzpatrick had a losing record. Up until the start of this season, Tua was easily the best QB the Dolphins have had since Marino. But he's just imploding now. The Dolphins should probably get over the star QB thing and focus on building a strong offensive line so they can run the ball and survive mediocre QBing.

Lol Tua the best QB with ONE season of 14 or more games started and a few wins at one point during one season. Clearly you don’t remember Fiedler or Tannehill having such moments of clarity in the league as well. I wasn’t throwing a compliment to Fitzpatrick or Pennington. They played at a respectable level and no QB since Marino has been better.

[Vertical Limit]

I wasnt even a fan of Tannehill especially coming out of texas a&m, he was so raw as a prospect.. but if he had waddle and tyreek hill.. he can make throws that tua cant just on arm strength alone.

Only thing similar about Tua and Tannehill is that they were weak leaders..

[Tim_Hardawayy]

I'm not a Tua hater, but he benefited greatly having played with arguably the best receiver corps this team has had since the Marks brothers. Haven't been a stat junkie in a while but I'd bet you'd see a ton of Tua's passing yardage attributed to YAC.

That said, to me the argument of whether he, Pennington, Fiedler, Tannehill etc did the best job post Marino is kind of frivolous, point is none of them played at the level of even a top 15 QB in the league when it matters most.

[HeatFanLifer]

I'm not a Tua hater, but he benefited greatly having played with arguably the best receiver corps this team has had since the Marks brothers. Haven't been a stat junkie in a while but I'd bet you'd see a ton of Tua's passing yardage attributed to YAC.

That said, to me the argument of whether he, Pennington, Fiedler, Tannehill etc did the best job post Marino is kind of frivolous, point is none of them played at the level of even a top 15 QB in the league when it matters most.

Yeah living up to the legacy of Pennigton is not exactly Superbowl material. I wish Tua best of luck in his future endeavors, but he just isn’t the guy to take the fins to contention. Put me in charge of the team, I will draft a QB every year in the first round until I get a franchise guy.

[Vertical Limit]

I'm not a Tua hater, but he benefited greatly having played with arguably the best receiver corps this team has had since the Marks brothers. Haven't been a stat junkie in a while but I'd bet you'd see a ton of Tua's passing yardage attributed to YAC.

That said, to me the argument of whether he, Pennington, Fiedler, Tannehill etc did the best job post Marino is kind of frivolous, point is none of them played at the level of even a top 15 QB in the league when it matters most.

He benefited greatly in college.. playing with 4 first round pick receivers, one of them being a Heisman.. najee harris and josh jacobs. Both of those running backs were first round picks. various first round pick o linemen

He was never asked to make a tough pass at a tight window..

[al bondiga]

For the hard nose, dolphins fan... A question...Wasn't tua supposed to Be the franchise guy?... What good is it gonna Be to draft A "franchise quarterback" if Our city **** them up?

In my opinion the dolphins have never, Since The 1970s undefeat season, been a real team... They were just A bunch of overpaid jokers with Not a professional bone in them... Some exceptions here and there.

The marino years and a bit of Bill parcels Gave us hope And maybe some of the tua years also

The Miami Heat will become a joke After pat is gone. So let's get ready my friends, we gonna starve for a couple of decades

One hit wonders has become the Miami way.

[BadMofoPimp]

I don't blame the Fins problems on Tua.

[Tony15]

The defense is a bigger short-term issue than Tua, but it's difficult not to keep the focus there when Josh Allen is in your division & Drake Maye looks better than Tua.

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[KingDavid]

Find a way to get Lamar home.

We had the opportunity but Stephen Ross did not want to be the owner that set the precedent for fully guaranteed NFL contracts. It sucks though.