2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6

[SA37]

I thought about this too, but the amount of rumors that the Heat are not even trying to have Rozier in camp is alarming. Did the Heat PR team ever mention him working out with the Heat at all this summer? I am trying to scroll through Heat media to see any mentions of Rozier

I don't know where Miami stands with Rozier, but at least while Herro is out, Rozier slides perfectly in as the scoring punch coming off the bench. I'm not sure Larsson or Dru Smith are ready for heavy minutes over an extended period. It isn't a lack of talent, but usually young players lack the consistency. Even if they both play ahead of Rozier, Rozier is an insurance policy until Herro gets back.

If Miami has no intentions of using Rozier, then I think Miami would be wise to bring in a vet like Josh Richardson, Delon Wright, or Alec Burks. And I think Miami needs to sign Achiuwa or some big as an insurance policy for the frontcourt.

Not sure how much wiggle room Miami has financially.

Miami has a platoon of guards why need another one? More than they have had probably since Arroyo, Chalmers and Bibby. Cant remember if Arroyo was on the roster the same time as Bibby.

If Miami has no plans to play Rozier (or if Miami buys him out), I think Miami needs another PG in case of any injury to D Mitchell while Herro is out. Dru Smith is coming back from a torn Achilles and may or may not be ready at the start of the season. Barring some unforeseen improvement, Kasparas seems a long ways away from being able to play regular minutes.

Alec Burks would only be an option if Miami bought out Rozier.

[twix2500]

I don't know where Miami stands with Rozier, but at least while Herro is out, Rozier slides perfectly in as the scoring punch coming off the bench. I'm not sure Larsson or Dru Smith are ready for heavy minutes over an extended period. It isn't a lack of talent, but usually young players lack the consistency. Even if they both play ahead of Rozier, Rozier is an insurance policy until Herro gets back.

If Miami has no intentions of using Rozier, then I think Miami would be wise to bring in a vet like Josh Richardson, Delon Wright, or Alec Burks. And I think Miami needs to sign Achiuwa or some big as an insurance policy for the frontcourt.

Not sure how much wiggle room Miami has financially.

Miami has a platoon of guards why need another one? More than they have had probably since Arroyo, Chalmers and Bibby. Cant remember if Arroyo was on the roster the same time as Bibby.

If Miami has no plans to play Rozier (or if Miami buys him out), I think Miami needs another PG in case of any injury to D Mitchell while Herro is out. Dru Smith is coming back from a torn Achilles and may or may not be ready at the start of the season. Barring some unforeseen improvement, Kasparas seems a long ways away from being able to play regular minutes.

Alec Burks would only be an option if Miami bought out Rozier.

The Heat drafted a point guard in the first round. In natural points they have Mitchell, Jakucionis and Smith. Unless Jakucionis is completely unplayable, in which I do not know, then they have points that will play.

[SA37]

Miami has a platoon of guards why need another one? More than they have had probably since Arroyo, Chalmers and Bibby. Cant remember if Arroyo was on the roster the same time as Bibby.

If Miami has no plans to play Rozier (or if Miami buys him out), I think Miami needs another PG in case of any injury to D Mitchell while Herro is out. Dru Smith is coming back from a torn Achilles and may or may not be ready at the start of the season. Barring some unforeseen improvement, Kasparas seems a long ways away from being able to play regular minutes.

Alec Burks would only be an option if Miami bought out Rozier.

The Heat drafted a point guard in the first round. In natural points they have Mitchell, Jakucionis and Smith. Unless Jakucionis is completely unplayable, in which I do not know, then they have points that will play.

If summer league is any indication, Kasparas is FAR from being a guy who should play anything beyond garbage minutes.

Averages: 9.5 points, 2.8 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 3.7 turnovers

Jakucionis shot a cringey 31.8 percent from the field across six games this summer, and his assist-to-turnover rate of 0.68-to-1 was an outright disaster.

https://www.si.com/college/illinois/basketball/nba-summer-league-grades-illini-alum-kasparas-jakucionis-heat

Point guard is probably the most difficult position to learn in the NBA, so I'd expect this to be a longer term project than a guy who is going to come in and be ready to play any significant minutes.

[twix2500]

If Miami has no plans to play Rozier (or if Miami buys him out), I think Miami needs another PG in case of any injury to D Mitchell while Herro is out. Dru Smith is coming back from a torn Achilles and may or may not be ready at the start of the season. Barring some unforeseen improvement, Kasparas seems a long ways away from being able to play regular minutes.

Alec Burks would only be an option if Miami bought out Rozier.

The Heat drafted a point guard in the first round. In natural points they have Mitchell, Jakucionis and Smith. Unless Jakucionis is completely unplayable, in which I do not know, then they have points that will play.

If summer league is any indication, Kasparas is FAR from being a guy who should play anything beyond garbage minutes.

Averages: 9.5 points, 2.8 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 3.7 turnovers

Jakucionis shot a cringey 31.8 percent from the field across six games this summer, and his assist-to-turnover rate of 0.68-to-1 was an outright disaster.

https://www.si.com/college/illinois/basketball/nba-summer-league-grades-illini-alum-kasparas-jakucionis-heat

Point guard is probably the most difficult position to learn in the NBA, so I'd expect this to be a longer term project than a guy who is going to come in and be ready to play any significant minutes.

Fair to say you have no faith in him at all this year. I am still giving him a chance that he can prove to be backup that can contribute.

[MartyConlonJr]

I dont remember the exact video, I want to say on some talkshow channel about the NBA where UD was on, the cast let him explain his "team to look out for" or whatever and he said Miami, and half of them laughed or rolled their eyes but let him explain.

He mentioned Rozier a few times back then that surprised me. It did make me think they are probably not as 100% on just shoving him in a dark corner like we are, and there is some expectation, at least by a few of the staff, that he is salvageable.

[vagelis]

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[wade44]

With the Herro news, Wiggins has to establish himself early in the season and take advantage of the sudden increased role on offense. That coupled wi the a summer training with the team, I expect a much better version of him this season

[twix2500]

With the Herro injury that we understand why the Heat made a commitment with Wiggins. Might be a good chance with the new relationship with Spo, Wiggins will be the veteran leader along with Bam. Everyone on the active roster is either young or new besides Bam and Wiggins (Rozier likely gone). It will be interesting to see how both Bam and Wiggins respond

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[twix2500]

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[twix2500]

Passing and reading the defense is my biggest concern

[twix2500]

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[twix2500]

Before the preseason starts, how do you think the will fare in the east?

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[SA37]

Spoiler:

The Heat drafted a point guard in the first round. In natural points they have Mitchell, Jakucionis and Smith. Unless Jakucionis is completely unplayable, in which I do not know, then they have points that will play.

If summer league is any indication, Kasparas is FAR from being a guy who should play anything beyond garbage minutes.

Averages: 9.5 points, 2.8 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 3.7 turnovers

Jakucionis shot a cringey 31.8 percent from the field across six games this summer, and his assist-to-turnover rate of 0.68-to-1 was an outright disaster.

https://www.si.com/college/illinois/basketball/nba-summer-league-grades-illini-alum-kasparas-jakucionis-heat

Point guard is probably the most difficult position to learn in the NBA, so I'd expect this to be a longer term project than a guy who is going to come in and be ready to play any significant minutes.

Fair to say you have no faith in him at all this year. I am still giving him a chance that he can prove to be backup that can contribute.

Stranger things have happened, but Miami isn't a franchise that tends to give big minutes to rookies. Rookies who are that bad in the summer league usually don't get much run on teams that already have a pretty established roster and are looking to compete for a playoff spot.

Even if you think he can come in and be ok if given minutes, I just don't see him getting much run with Herro/Mitchell/Powell/Larsson/Rozier?? in front of him.

[lastb1ckman]

Spoiler:

If summer league is any indication, Kasparas is FAR from being a guy who should play anything beyond garbage minutes.



https://www.si.com/college/illinois/basketball/nba-summer-league-grades-illini-alum-kasparas-jakucionis-heat

Point guard is probably the most difficult position to learn in the NBA, so I'd expect this to be a longer term project than a guy who is going to come in and be ready to play any significant minutes.

Fair to say you have no faith in him at all this year. I am still giving him a chance that he can prove to be backup that can contribute.

Stranger things have happened, but Miami isn't a franchise that tends to give big minutes to rookies. Rookies who are that bad in the summer league usually don't get much run on teams that already have a pretty established roster and are looking to compete for a playoff spot.

Even if you think he can come in and be ok if given minutes, I just don't see him getting much run with Herro/Mitchell/Powell/Larsson/Rozier?? in front of him.

Personally, I think people overplay Spo's resistance to playing rookies. Its a matter of the rookies being competent at the basics. You know, being where he needs to be on defense, playing a role etc.

[Vertical Limit]

Norman Powell could really take advantage of this opportunity imo. If he plays well and helps us secure plenty of wins, he could earn an extension.

Herro’s fragility is starting to show, skip the extension for now.

it showed two- three seasons ago bro. i'm tempted to lower my predictions in lieu of this new info further

Played 77 games last season and showed improvement tbf. But now it feels like we're back to square one.

To be fair his injury is not major.. he should be back to 100% quick…


But, he is still Tyler Herro.. he is still in the Sexton, Giddey, Lavine tier. He is not getting an extension in October and he should be a free agent after the 26/27 season so that he can test his market value.. which im sure will come back low.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

it showed two- three seasons ago bro. i'm tempted to lower my predictions in lieu of this new info further

Played 77 games last season and showed improvement tbf. But now it feels like we're back to square one.

To be fair his injury is not major.. he should be back to 100% quick…


But, he is still Tyler Herro.. he is still in the Sexton, Giddey, Lavine tier. He is not getting an extension in October and he should be a free agent after the 26/27 season so that he can test his market value.. which im sure will come back low.

I mean it’s not a torn Achilles or ACL obviously but it’s surgery to his foot which is pretty significant still considering the wear and tear he’ll add over the course of the season and how fragile his lower body has been the duration of his career outside of 1 season. What type of maintenance plan will he be on? Is it 8 weeks until he’s able to start ramping up to play again through practices or is it 8 weeks and he’s good to go balls to the wall. How likely is he to tweak it again once he gets back in the mix, etc. There’s a lot of questions with the injury still, I feel like crap like this tends to linger so we’ll see

[twix2500]

Played 77 games last season and showed improvement tbf. But now it feels like we're back to square one.

To be fair his injury is not major.. he should be back to 100% quick…


But, he is still Tyler Herro.. he is still in the Sexton, Giddey, Lavine tier. He is not getting an extension in October and he should be a free agent after the 26/27 season so that he can test his market value.. which im sure will come back low.

I mean it’s not a torn Achilles or ACL obviously but it’s surgery to his foot which is pretty significant still considering the wear and tear he’ll add over the course of the season and how fragile his lower body has been the duration of his career outside of 1 season. What type of maintenance plan will he be on? Is it 8 weeks until he’s able to start ramping up to play again through practices or is it 8 weeks and he’s good to go balls to the wall. How likely is he to tweak it again once he gets back in the mix, etc. There’s a lot of questions with the injury still, I feel like crap like this tends to linger so we’ll see

Foot surgery is usually a big deal. Not familiar with this injury.

[SA37]

Fair to say you have no faith in him at all this year. I am still giving him a chance that he can prove to be backup that can contribute.

Stranger things have happened, but Miami isn't a franchise that tends to give big minutes to rookies. Rookies who are that bad in the summer league usually don't get much run on teams that already have a pretty established roster and are looking to compete for a playoff spot.

Even if you think he can come in and be ok if given minutes, I just don't see him getting much run with Herro/Mitchell/Powell/Larsson/Rozier?? in front of him.

Personally, I think people overplay Spo's resistance to playing rookies. Its a matter of the rookies being competent at the basics. You know, being where he needs to be on defense, playing a role etc.

In general, rookies who are 20yrs old are not ready for the NBA. And if they are, they usually go higher than 20. And defense is probably the area where rookies are the most prone to error and lapses.

I didn't see the summer league games, but a guy who is generally ready to play regular minutes in the NBA should be pretty dominant in summer league. That said, I do remember Trae Young struggled at first in the summer league, then did better in his the second half of his summer league games.

One reason to be a bit more optimistic with Kasparas is because he has played at the pro level in Europe. I still think he's more of a project than a guy ready to step in a give Miami 15-20mpg. I'd love to be wrong.

[CWebb2491]

Young guys MUST get BIG minutes with Tyler’s surgery. We’re not competing and a great lottery pick, it would help open trade discussions when a star becomes available.

[Wiltside]

Larsson and Jaquez (maybe even Rozier...) should be the big benefactors of Herro's 8 week absence. They will get a big opportunity here.

Given we're trying to squeeze Terry out, Larsson might get some PG duties.

PG - Mitchell / Larsson / Jakucinois / Rozier (benched) / Smith (inj)
SG - Powell / Jaquez
SF - Wiggins / Fontecchio
PF - Adebayo / Jovic
C - Ware / Keshad / Goldin