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I’m not worried about Josh at all. Deep bench we just need him to be scrappy annoying player that gets boards and play defense.
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ctorres wrote:McBride or Clarkson should start if Hart's finger looks that bad. McBride is the best fit offensively because he won't demand touches. McBride could have a good game with few shots if his presence alone spreads the floor and he defends at an elite level
Hart should play SF off the bench with brogdon and clarkson at the 1 and 2
Duece should be the guy

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I am worried about rebounds without Hart in the starting unit.
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Richard4444 wrote:I am worried about rebounds without Hart in the starting unit.
To start games, rebounding should not be an issue, even if both Hart AND Mitch come off the bench
KAT is solid on the defensive boards
If we are hitting shots to start games, we should not have that many offensive boards to grab
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thebuzzardman wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:My rotation:
Karl/OG/Mikal/Deuce/Brunson
Mitch/Yabu/Clarkson/Brogdon
Sprinkle in some Huk, Dadiet and Shamet when needed. I still wish we nabbed a veteran wing but Dadiet has upside so let's see what he can do
Trading Hart?
This assumes that Josh has to miss the start of the season. Otherwise I pencil him in at forward in the 2nd unit.
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See even mikal agrees with guan0.
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The only real 5th starter on the team is mitch. But that doesn’t help with spacing or playing 5 out. But playing kat at C is terrible for our defense.
Also Deuce, jHart, ect are all bench players.
We definitely helped our bench this offseason but our starting 5 is still messy. The problem is Brunson and kat arent two way players. And the real issue is its hard to win with a big who is a terrible defender.
Also Deuce, jHart, ect are all bench players.
We definitely helped our bench this offseason but our starting 5 is still messy. The problem is Brunson and kat arent two way players. And the real issue is its hard to win with a big who is a terrible defender.
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Guano wrote:The only real 5th starter on the team is mitch. But that doesn’t help with spacing or playing 5 out. But playing kat at C is terrible for our defense.
Also Deuce, jHart, ect are all bench players.
We definitely helped our bench this offseason but our starting 5 is still messy. The problem is Brunson and kat arent two way players. And the real issue is its hard to win with a big who is a terrible defender.
Yup. Bench has been improved but starting lineup is still not complete. The Brunson and KAT pairing will continue to have their defensive struggles because both are terrible and KAT is really at his best playing the 5 and benefiting from the open floor. Don’t think we added that true 5th starter so expect the new coach to do some shuffling to figure out what might work.
The positive thing about this season is that the East looks as weak as it’s been in a long time so the opportunity will still be there.
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Starting Deuce over Mitch or Hart is great for spacing but not so great for rebounding. OG and Mikal are only "ok" rebounders playing at the 4 and 3, where they would be with Deuce out there.
Mitch kills spacing but the rebounding and defense go up
Hart good for rebounding, pushing the ball, tertiary passer/ball handler, but probably off the bench.
Whoever the Knicks start, feels like it'll be one of those starters who maxes out at 20 mpg
Mitch kills spacing but the rebounding and defense go up
Hart good for rebounding, pushing the ball, tertiary passer/ball handler, but probably off the bench.
Whoever the Knicks start, feels like it'll be one of those starters who maxes out at 20 mpg

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I'm rooting for Deuce to shock the world and show everyone that he is a legit starting-caliber 3&D 2-guard if he got to play the majority of his minutes alongside Jalen, Mikal, OG, and KAT
Deuce is 25 years old in his 5th NBA season.
Brogdon is 32. Clarkson is 33. Hart is 30. Shamet is 28 with a long list of injuries.
Deuce is younger than all of these guys and has a 6'10 wingspan that benefits him on defense. He needs to outwork them and win that starting SG spot.
Deuce is 25 years old in his 5th NBA season.
Brogdon is 32. Clarkson is 33. Hart is 30. Shamet is 28 with a long list of injuries.
Deuce is younger than all of these guys and has a 6'10 wingspan that benefits him on defense. He needs to outwork them and win that starting SG spot.
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A Coach can't change a player, A coach must convert to players style..
A successful Pat Riley went from Magic with the Lakers to Charlie ward with Knick because he change his system.
Don't try and turn JB into Curry and play him off the ball, he's never done that in his career..
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thebuzzardman wrote:Starting Deuce over Mitch or Hart is great for spacing but not so great for rebounding. OG and Mikal are only "ok" rebounders playing at the 4 and 3, where they would be with Deuce out there.
Mitch kills spacing but the rebounding and defense go up
Hart good for rebounding, pushing the ball, tertiary passer/ball handler, but probably off the bench.
Whoever the Knicks start, feels like it'll be one of those starters who maxes out at 20 mpg
Mitch only avg' 7 rebounds, 10 on his best day.
A good rebounder is 12 per or better, 9 off the bench..
A good shot blocker is 2.2 or better, 1.5 off the bench
mitch is below good
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KNICKS007 wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Starting Deuce over Mitch or Hart is great for spacing but not so great for rebounding. OG and Mikal are only "ok" rebounders playing at the 4 and 3, where they would be with Deuce out there.
Mitch kills spacing but the rebounding and defense go up
Hart good for rebounding, pushing the ball, tertiary passer/ball handler, but probably off the bench.
Whoever the Knicks start, feels like it'll be one of those starters who maxes out at 20 mpg
Mitch only avg' 7 rebounds, 10 on his best day.
A good rebounder is 12 per or better, 9 off the bench..
A good shot blocker is 2.2 or better, 1.5 off the bench
mitch is below good
Mitch averages around 12 rebounds per 36 minutes, and half of them are offensive.
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Guano wrote:The only real 5th starter on the team is mitch. But that doesn’t help with spacing or playing 5 out. But playing kat at C is terrible for our defense.
Also Deuce, jHart, ect are all bench players.
We definitely helped our bench this offseason but our starting 5 is still messy. The problem is Brunson and kat arent two way players. And the real issue is its hard to win with a big who is a terrible defender.
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Guano wrote:The only real 5th starter on the team is mitch. But that doesn’t help with spacing or playing 5 out. But playing kat at C is terrible for our defense.
Also Deuce, jHart, ect are all bench players.
We definitely helped our bench this offseason but our starting 5 is still messy. The problem is Brunson and kat arent two way players. And the real issue is its hard to win with a big who is a terrible defender.
Why isn’t Deuce starter material? He’s not much smaller in height and wingspan compared to Donovan Mitchell, and his play style and impact is exactly what we need in the starting unit.
I’m good with Brogdon starting if he’s healthy too, based on his experience, shooting, and playmaking.
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spree8 wrote:Guano wrote:The only real 5th starter on the team is mitch. But that doesn’t help with spacing or playing 5 out. But playing kat at C is terrible for our defense.
Also Deuce, jHart, ect are all bench players.
We definitely helped our bench this offseason but our starting 5 is still messy. The problem is Brunson and kat arent two way players. And the real issue is its hard to win with a big who is a terrible defender.
Why isn’t Deuce starter material? He’s not much smaller in height and wingspan compared to Donovan Mitchell, and his play style and impact is exactly what we need in the starting unit.
I’m good with Brogdon starting if he’s healthy too, based on his experience, shooting, and playmaking.
He seems small for a 2 guard. Even though he is a solid poa defender. But if his shot isnt failing its really problematic. And I think you can get away with a pair of undersized guards when both of them are elite offensive talents which deuce is not. He is best suited as a backup combo guard. Or the bigger issue of starting him on our team is.....
It leaves us weak on the boards and also puts kat as our paint defender where he is atrocious.
We're gonna win a lot of games this year. Hell we can challenge for the ecf. But its going to be frustrating at times watching this team defend.
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