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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#461 » by SalmonsSuperfan » Mon Sep 29, 2025 2:55 am

fleet wrote:BJ is not to be trifled with. The way she backed up, like she understood that glare he gave her wasn’t playing

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Rude tbh. Guy thinks he's Popovich, except more aggressive toward women. Learn how to answer these standard dumbass questions, like chill out bro.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#462 » by Hold That » Mon Sep 29, 2025 3:02 am

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fleet wrote:BJ is not to be trifled with. The way she backed up, like she understood that glare he gave her wasn’t playing

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Rude tbh. Guy thinks he's Popovich, except more aggressive toward women. Learn how to answer these standard dumbass questions, like chill out bro.

I think he heard “you need to change what you’re doing” instead of “Do you need to change what you’re doing”

I had to replay it back myself because I thought she was giving a suggestion and not asking a question.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#463 » by Dresden » Mon Sep 29, 2025 3:02 am

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Dominator83 wrote:Caleb was actually solid this game. Especially considering that Crosby was on his a$$ all game long.

badly missed another check down throw to the sidelines, a couple more sail throws downfield, reverting to too many cross-body hero ball lasers while heading OB...and that INT was a pretty bad decision

he seems to be scrambling nearly as much w/o getting caught this season


Yeah, he had some negatives. But you're not saying anything about the positive things he did.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#464 » by Dresden » Mon Sep 29, 2025 3:05 am

Kudos to Santos today- he made all his kicks, and a couple over 50.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#465 » by dice » Mon Sep 29, 2025 3:07 am

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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#466 » by dice » Mon Sep 29, 2025 3:08 am

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fleet wrote:BJ is not to be trifled with. The way she backed up, like she understood that glare he gave her wasn’t playing

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Rude tbh. Guy thinks he's Popovich, except more aggressive toward women. Learn how to answer these standard dumbass questions, like chill out bro.

I think he heard “you need to change what you’re doing” instead of “Do you need to change what you’re doing”

I had to replay it back myself because I thought she was giving a suggestion and not asking a question.

either way, it's a bad look. not to mention a waste of energy
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Post#467 » by dice » Mon Sep 29, 2025 3:09 am

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fleet wrote:BJ is not to be trifled with. The way she backed up, like she understood that glare he gave her wasn’t playing

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Rude tbh. Guy thinks he's Popovich, except more aggressive toward women. Learn how to answer these standard dumbass questions, like chill out bro.

i thought i must've missed something before they went on air. very weird
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Re: Bears thread 13 

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fleet wrote:BJ is not to be trifled with. The way she backed up, like she understood that glare he gave her wasn’t playing

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Rude tbh. Guy thinks he's Popovich, except more aggressive toward women. Learn how to answer these standard dumbass questions, like chill out bro.

I think he heard “you need to change what you’re doing” instead of “Do you need to change what you’re doing”

Simply funny. Hit the rude guy with some snark. Our man has like 4 games under his belt and his "offensive wizardry" seemingly doesn't exist. Show some humility. It's a sideline reporter, they say stupid things, I don't think he's ever had to talk to one.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#469 » by Dresden » Mon Sep 29, 2025 3:17 am

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SalmonsSuperfan wrote:Rude tbh. Guy thinks he's Popovich, except more aggressive toward women. Learn how to answer these standard dumbass questions, like chill out bro.

I think he heard “you need to change what you’re doing” instead of “Do you need to change what you’re doing”

Simply funny. Hit the rude guy with some snark. Our man has like 4 games under his belt and his "offensive wizardry" seemingly doesn't exist. Show some humility. It's a sideline reporter, they say stupid things, I don't think he's ever had to talk to one.


They want a reaction from coaches. That's why they interview them in those situations. Johnson was hot after the Bears played a terrible half of football. He gave her a hot reaction. She should be able to handle that.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#470 » by Dresden » Mon Sep 29, 2025 3:34 am

Cowboys retake the lead with 43 secs left.
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Post#471 » by SalmonsSuperfan » Mon Sep 29, 2025 3:36 am

Dresden wrote:Cowboys retake the lead with 43 secs left.

lol@ this packers defense
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#472 » by Chi town » Mon Sep 29, 2025 4:19 am

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The run game is beyond awful and is holding back everything else considerably.


Letting David Montgomery walk for a 3yr/$18m deal and turning right around and giving Swift a 3/24 deal has been a disaster.


And Monty hit the nutrition hard in the offseason and is now a lean missile. Kids is crazy explosive.

We are good now though. Coach wont be making decisions like that for Poles:).
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Post#473 » by dougthonus » Mon Sep 29, 2025 10:28 am

dice wrote:talent isn't everything, obviously. and the proof is jalen carter, whose talent significantly exceeds his consensus draft slot as was determined by many nfl execs

and yes, it's from a "math perspective." the expected value of the trade works out in the favor of the bears. if you're bad at evaluating draft talent, you just take carter. but no nfl gm thinks they're bad at drafting


I think it's the reverse. If you're good at evaluating talent, it's way more likely to be worth it to trade up than if you are bad at evaluating talent. If you are bad, you always do the math. But in this case, the talent gap was obvious and enormous which is something that I think is rarely true, and while I generally go with the math because I think people aren't as good at drafting as they think and luck plays a much bigger factor than you can quantify, this was an obvious exception, because this guy was a top 3 talent that fell because people are really stupid.

The evaluation of his character over a drag racing car accident was stupid, because the motive behind this was "fun" and the actions were just really stupid, but the outcome was so bad that it seems overwhelmingly likely he'd learn his lesson. It wasn't like choking his coach or beating up his girlfriend, where the problem came from uncontrollable anger or refusal to listen to people or something that might actual scale into a real problem.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#474 » by Jvaughn » Mon Sep 29, 2025 12:52 pm

patryk7754 wrote:Drew dalman has been a disappointment so far. I tried to convince myself he was a good pickup after signing him, but he’s just been bad. Hopefully that changes by the end of the season


I legitimately don't get how he was so dominant previously, but struggling here all of a sudden. I'm hoping he just needs some adjustments time, but he looks slow and somehow he's lost strength. Very strange indeed.
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Post#475 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Mon Sep 29, 2025 2:11 pm

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dice wrote:talent isn't everything, obviously. and the proof is jalen carter, whose talent significantly exceeds his consensus draft slot as was determined by many nfl execs

and yes, it's from a "math perspective." the expected value of the trade works out in the favor of the bears. if you're bad at evaluating draft talent, you just take carter. but no nfl gm thinks they're bad at drafting


I think it's the reverse. If you're good at evaluating talent, it's way more likely to be worth it to trade up than if you are bad at evaluating talent. If you are bad, you always do the math. But in this case, the talent gap was obvious and enormous which is something that I think is rarely true, and while I generally go with the math because I think people aren't as good at drafting as they think and luck plays a much bigger factor than you can quantify, this was an obvious exception, because this guy was a top 3 talent that fell because people are really stupid.

The evaluation of his character over a drag racing car accident was stupid, because the motive behind this was "fun" and the actions were just really stupid, but the outcome was so bad that it seems overwhelmingly likely he'd learn his lesson. It wasn't like choking his coach or beating up his girlfriend, where the problem came from uncontrollable anger or refusal to listen to people or something that might actual scale into a real problem.


If I remember correctly it was several things all leading up to the draft. This is off the dome so if I forgot something please be lenient.

-The drag racing
-Lying about it to the cops
-His coaches came and were saying very negative stuff about him leading up to the draft
-He couldn’t finish his draft workout because he was fat and out of shape

All of this right before the biggest job interviews of his life.
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Post#476 » by dougthonus » Mon Sep 29, 2025 2:29 pm

JohnnyKILLroy wrote:If I remember correctly it was several things all leading up to the draft. This is off the dome so if I forgot something please be lenient.

-The drag racing
-Lying about it to the cops
-His coaches came and were saying very negative stuff about him leading up to the draft
-He couldn’t finish his draft workout because he was fat and out of shape

All of this right before the biggest job interviews of his life.


Most of this is pretty easily explained by an unprecedentedly negative outcome due to the car crash, and people overreacting to something that has very little chance to have negative future behavioral consequences.

The reality is that Carter looked like a top 3 talent, was a top 3 talent, and we passed on him to get a mediocre lineman. If you want to say in the moment that makes sense because of the above, it's not for me to convince you to have a different risk tolerance. I thought the concerns were largely due to a miscategorization of risk.

Impossible to say whether those concerns were due to miscategorization or simply concerns that didn't materialize because you just never know what will or won't happen in the future. Regardless of whether this was a true human psychological misinformation arbitrage opportunity or not, the reality is that Jalen Carter was by far the better selection and overwhelmingly the more talented player, and has worked out amazingly, and we'd have been dramatically better off having selected him.

I thought that was obvious at the time, but I'm not a football expert, and I could just as easily be correct due to dumb luck or happenstance, but I felt convicted on the idea that people were miscategorizing this risk, and wish we had taken him.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#477 » by Dresden » Mon Sep 29, 2025 2:48 pm

Our next game is on Monday night v. WAS after the bye. Hopefully we'll have Gordon, TJ and Darnell and Loveland back by then. WAS most likely will have Daniels back.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#478 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Mon Sep 29, 2025 2:48 pm

dougthonus wrote:
JohnnyKILLroy wrote:If I remember correctly it was several things all leading up to the draft. This is off the dome so if I forgot something please be lenient.

-The drag racing
-Lying about it to the cops
-His coaches came and were saying very negative stuff about him leading up to the draft
-He couldn’t finish his draft workout because he was fat and out of shape

All of this right before the biggest job interviews of his life.


Most of this is pretty easily explained by an unprecedentedly negative outcome due to the car crash, and people overreacting to something that has very little chance to have negative future behavioral consequences.

The reality is that Carter looked like a top 3 talent, was a top 3 talent, and we passed on him to get a mediocre lineman. If you want to say in the moment that makes sense because of the above, it's not for me to convince you to have a different risk tolerance. I thought the concerns were largely due to a miscategorization of risk.

Impossible to say whether those concerns were due to miscategorization or simply concerns that didn't materialize because you just never know what will or won't happen in the future. Regardless of whether this was a true human psychological misinformation arbitrage opportunity or not, the reality is that Jalen Carter was by far the better selection and overwhelmingly the more talented player, and has worked out amazingly, and we'd have been dramatically better off having selected him.

I thought that was obvious at the time, but I'm not a football expert, and I could just as easily be correct due to dumb luck or happenstance, but I felt convicted on the idea that people were miscategorizing this risk, and wish we had taken him.


Wright at the time looked like the best RT coming out of the draft I don’t think was considered a mediocre prospect. Hopefully he lives up to his draft position but that the time he was seen as a good pick.

As for Walker at the time I was anti how he handled himself leading up to the draft. Had he crushed his pro day and looked all world especially considering his season was over and all he had to do was workout like a madman and show front offices that he’d been crushing it leading up the draft. I thought it was a bad look - what was he doing that whole time? Plenty of teams passed on him. It wasn’t just us and as far as players with red flags I trust that GMs have access to worlds more info than us the public do.
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Re: Bears thread 13 

Post#479 » by Dresden » Mon Sep 29, 2025 2:52 pm

From Biggs: over previous 100 games in the NFL when teams allowed 240 yards rushing or more, they were 9-91.
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Post#480 » by Chi town » Mon Sep 29, 2025 2:57 pm

Dresden wrote:
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Hold That wrote:I think he heard “you need to change what you’re doing” instead of “Do you need to change what you’re doing”

Simply funny. Hit the rude guy with some snark. Our man has like 4 games under his belt and his "offensive wizardry" seemingly doesn't exist. Show some humility. It's a sideline reporter, they say stupid things, I don't think he's ever had to talk to one.


They want a reaction from coaches. That's why they interview them in those situations. Johnson was hot after the Bears played a terrible half of football. He gave her a hot reaction. She should be able to handle that.


I love it! A coach with some fire. Remember Flus without a pulse???

I think her tone had me thinking it sounded like she was questioning him and the team not asking questions. I like that he dished it right back. Reporter felt like a Vegas reporter not a neutral reporter.

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