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Re: Training Camp Thread / Media Day 

Post#81 » by causal_fan » Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:01 pm

Tofubeque wrote:I read Darko's CMB's comments as just being political, because he doesn't want to kick vets from the rotation before they even open camp. "Everyone has to earn it" kind of language. If CMB is as good as we think, he'll earn it pretty quickly.

I am a bit concerned that he penciled in Mamu for backup 5, I think there's a chance CMB is better there from day 1. Hopefully it's not a C version of his Dennis Schroder love affair. But the team tended to win their minutes with the husk of Olynyk playing C, so what do I know.

Maybe but GM Webster seemed to indicate a similar sentiment - that CMB might help defensively but don't expect much in the first year.
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Re: Training Camp Thread / Media Day 

Post#82 » by MEDIC » Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:06 pm

I think this team should go with a multiple ball handler/ initiator approach. Quickley is more of a SG anyway.
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Re: Training Camp Thread / Media Day 

Post#83 » by YogurtProducer » Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:11 pm

Tofubeque wrote:I am a bit concerned that he penciled in Mamu for backup 5, I think there's a chance CMB is better there from day 1. Hopefully it's not a C version of his Dennis Schroder love affair.

??? Shroder played like 30mpg and immediately became a bench guy one we got IQ.
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Re: Training Camp Thread / Media Day 

Post#84 » by Zeno » Mon Sep 29, 2025 10:03 pm

I think Manu having the backup 5 position to start is not surprising. CMB first has to beat out Mogbo for minutes at the backup 4.
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Re: Training Camp Thread / Media Day 

Post#85 » by HumbleRen » Mon Sep 29, 2025 10:41 pm

We want to develop CMB as a wing. Not a small ball 5. I have no issues with his statement.
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Post#86 » by TimeForChange » Mon Sep 29, 2025 11:26 pm

CMB will play beside Mamu. Mamu cannot play defense and doesn't provide much as an offensive rebounder.
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Re: Training Camp Thread / Media Day 

Post#87 » by Tor_Raps » Mon Sep 29, 2025 11:59 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
Tofubeque wrote:I am a bit concerned that he penciled in Mamu for backup 5, I think there's a chance CMB is better there from day 1. Hopefully it's not a C version of his Dennis Schroder love affair.

??? Shroder played like 30mpg and immediately became a bench guy one we got IQ.


I dont get the Schroder hatred, he signed with us to be a starter because we had no other option. Then we made a trade to send him to the bench on a crappy team so he got upset about it. He performed as well as expected.

Mamu is strictly a backup C who will play about 15-20 MPG max. He seems like a good fit with CMB as they offset each others strengths/weaknesses.

If either craps the bed then they will get replaced by Mogbo in the rotation (assuming hes good enough to do that). This year players will earn playing time with their play and not get forcefed minutes due to their "status."
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Re: Training Camp Thread / Media Day 

Post#88 » by mtcan » Tue Sep 30, 2025 12:13 am

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YogurtProducer wrote:
Tofubeque wrote:I am a bit concerned that he penciled in Mamu for backup 5, I think there's a chance CMB is better there from day 1. Hopefully it's not a C version of his Dennis Schroder love affair.

??? Shroder played like 30mpg and immediately became a bench guy one we got IQ.


I dont get the Shroder hatred, he signed with us to be a starter because we had no other option. Then we made a trade to send him to the bench on a crappy team so he got upset about it. He performed as well as expected.

Mamu is strictly a backup C who will play about 15-20 MPG max. He seems like a good fit with CMB as they offset each others strengths/weaknesses.

If either craps the bed then they will get replaced by Mogbo in the rotation (assuming hes good enough to do that). This year players will earn playing time with their play and not get forcefed minutes due to their "status."

Ya...the difference between Mamu and Schroeder is that Mamu understands and accepts the role of being a bench big role player. Dennis was signed to start and was understandably upset when his starting spot was taken just by virtue of a trade and not necessarily him being outplayed.

Darko's team right now...everyone understands their role and don't all have stars and dollar signs in their eyes. This is a stark contrast to the Nick Nurse days when guys like Precious Achiuwa were entering the game looking to take over and get their own in order to prove they are worthy of being considered stars.

I don't think Mamu has an ego or stars in his eyes. He'll do what is asked of him.
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Re: Training Camp Thread / Media Day 

Post#89 » by dballislife » Tue Sep 30, 2025 12:24 am

if mamu is on the floor, literally one of barnes, cmb, or poeltl HAS to and i mean HAS to be on the floor with him

imo the defensive play of cmb will put him higher up on the depth chart sooner than later
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Post#90 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Tue Sep 30, 2025 1:22 pm

Beat media don’t actually care if what the team says makes any sense. Like to say no ego’s and not be challenged on it, when the only thing keeping them from putting a three and D player in the starting lineup, as is obviously needed, is ego and not insulting RJ’s.

I’m not anti RJ I’m anti dragging a mal formed roster year after year because a kid is a local feel good story and they don’t want to lose a press conference If the can’t get a deal for RJ then trade someone else. Maybe moving Scottie could bring a lot back?

I don’t see the 3 pt improvement or how the def focus translate when the def players can’t get on the floor

Why did the media include RJ in the big 3 type questions? Are they just casuals? I mean many players can’t give you 20 pppg inefficiently if you don’t care about winning the game. There were times in our franchise where we were so bad we needed them but we should be passed that now. Don’t let empty players anywhere near our roster unless it a microwave off the bench, imo.

What did we go through a horrible tank for?Gradey, Walker and CMB. ( they should be held accountable for not even losing well enough, tbh) Who are we invested in, ummm - seems like we re-signed all the players we tanked with for 3 more years…

Now draft is hit and miss, I fear Gradey is too poor defensively, maybe we don’t have anything with those guys - but there’s no organizational effort I can see to do anything with them right now. Seems like the org just used the tank to avoid criticism for failures.

Darko should immediately be fired for refrencing def improvement at the end of the year when other coaches were battling him for ping pong balls and he didn’t realize it. He thought they were turning a corner.
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Re: Training Camp Thread / Media Day 

Post#91 » by dagger » Tue Sep 30, 2025 1:35 pm

Today is body.comparison day for Real GM posters. I await pictures of our young players for the debate to begin about how much mass they seemingly have added. The arguments ought to be a hoot.
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Re: Training Camp Thread / Media Day 

Post#92 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Sep 30, 2025 1:38 pm

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Post#93 » by djsunyc » Tue Sep 30, 2025 1:49 pm

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:Beat media don’t actually care if what the team says makes any sense. Like to say no ego’s and not be challenged on it, when the only thing keeping them from putting a three and D player in the starting lineup, as is obviously needed, is ego and not insulting RJ’s.

I’m not anti RJ I’m anti dragging a mal formed roster year after year because a kid is a local feel good story and they don’t want to lose a press conference If the can’t get a deal for RJ then trade someone else. Maybe moving Scottie could bring a lot back?

I don’t see the 3 pt improvement or how the def focus translate when the def players can’t get on the floor

Why did the media include RJ in the big 3 type questions? Are they just casuals? I mean many players can’t give you 20 pppg inefficiently if you don’t care about winning the game. There were times in our franchise where we were so bad we needed them but we should be passed that now. Don’t let empty players anywhere near our roster unless it a microwave off the bench, imo.

What did we go through a horrible tank for?Gradey, Walker and CMB. ( they should be held accountable for not even losing well enough, tbh) Who are we invested in, ummm - seems like we re-signed all the players we tanked with for 3 more years…

Now draft is hit and miss, I fear Gradey is too poor defensively, maybe we don’t have anything with those guys - but there’s no organizational effort I can see to do anything with them right now. Seems like the org just used the tank to avoid criticism for failures.

Darko should immediately be fired for refrencing def improvement at the end of the year when other coaches were battling him for ping pong balls and he didn’t realize it. He thought they were turning a corner.


damn son - did you have a bad summer or something?
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Re: Training Camp Thread / Media Day 

Post#94 » by anotherhomer » Tue Sep 30, 2025 1:53 pm

Zeno wrote:I think Manu having the backup 5 position to start is not surprising. CMB first has to beat out Mogbo for minutes at the backup 4.


i see CMB beating out Mogbo for playing time
Mogbo will get minutes when guys get hurt
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Post#95 » by ATLTimekeeper » Tue Sep 30, 2025 1:54 pm

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:Beat media don’t actually care if what the team says makes any sense. Like to say no ego’s and not be challenged on it, when the only thing keeping them from putting a three and D player in the starting lineup, as is obviously needed, is ego and not insulting RJ’s.

I’m not anti RJ I’m anti dragging a mal formed roster year after year because a kid is a local feel good story and they don’t want to lose a press conference If the can’t get a deal for RJ then trade someone else. Maybe moving Scottie could bring a lot back?

I don’t see the 3 pt improvement or how the def focus translate when the def players can’t get on the floor

Why did the media include RJ in the big 3 type questions? Are they just casuals? I mean many players can’t give you 20 pppg inefficiently if you don’t care about winning the game. There were times in our franchise where we were so bad we needed them but we should be passed that now. Don’t let empty players anywhere near our roster unless it a microwave off the bench, imo.

What did we go through a horrible tank for?Gradey, Walker and CMB. ( they should be held accountable for not even losing well enough, tbh) Who are we invested in, ummm - seems like we re-signed all the players we tanked with for 3 more years…

Now draft is hit and miss, I fear Gradey is too poor defensively, maybe we don’t have anything with those guys - but there’s no organizational effort I can see to do anything with them right now. Seems like the org just used the tank to avoid criticism for failures.

Darko should immediately be fired for refrencing def improvement at the end of the year when other coaches were battling him for ping pong balls and he didn’t realize it. He thought they were turning a corner.


They fired Masai. What accountability beyond that do you need? Bobby literally said he's going to see how things fit and he's not going to shy away from a big trade, if needed. That's code for evaluation mode.

This presser is the first day of school. Cynical questions are still going to be met with defiant faith. Overall, as a day 1 Raptor fan, I think the quality of questions in these things has increased dramatically with the inclusion of RR, the Athletic writers and other podcasters. RJ's interview was excellent. Brandon Ingram went out of his way to tell everyone how RJ was much better than he thought he was. If Doug Smith thinks RJ is part of a big 3, and you look at who is on the team, it's not an absurd stretch to see it as that.
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Re: Training Camp Thread / Media Day 

Post#96 » by TheGeneral99 » Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:04 pm

At least team has expectations to make the playoffs as opposed to Yak last media day saying it doesn't matter if we win or lose, lol.
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Re: Training Camp Thread / Media Day 

Post#97 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:13 pm

djsunyc wrote:
theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:Beat media don’t actually care if what the team says makes any sense. Like to say no ego’s and not be challenged on it, when the only thing keeping them from putting a three and D player in the starting lineup, as is obviously needed, is ego and not insulting RJ’s.

I’m not anti RJ I’m anti dragging a mal formed roster year after year because a kid is a local feel good story and they don’t want to lose a press conference If the can’t get a deal for RJ then trade someone else. Maybe moving Scottie could bring a lot back?

I don’t see the 3 pt improvement or how the def focus translate when the def players can’t get on the floor

Why did the media include RJ in the big 3 type questions? Are they just casuals? I mean many players can’t give you 20 pppg inefficiently if you don’t care about winning the game. There were times in our franchise where we were so bad we needed them but we should be passed that now. Don’t let empty players anywhere near our roster unless it a microwave off the bench, imo.

What did we go through a horrible tank for?Gradey, Walker and CMB. ( they should be held accountable for not even losing well enough, tbh) Who are we invested in, ummm - seems like we re-signed all the players we tanked with for 3 more years…

Now draft is hit and miss, I fear Gradey is too poor defensively, maybe we don’t have anything with those guys - but there’s no organizational effort I can see to do anything with them right now. Seems like the org just used the tank to avoid criticism for failures.

Darko should immediately be fired for refrencing def improvement at the end of the year when other coaches were battling him for ping pong balls and he didn’t realize it. He thought they were turning a corner.


damn son - did you have a bad summer or something?


Not really, but I care about whether or not this team can compete and keep me entertained all year, more than I care about how the players or front office people are treated on line. I’m not a Raptors fan the takes their word for it.

This team has talent. I just don’t think they are willing to make tough choices to get the most out of them, and that’s what’s frustrating. And I don’t have a high opinion of Darko as a coach, based on what I’ve seen.

I think IQ should be the sg and RJ should be coming off the bench as a sixth man scorer, and if Shead isn’t a lead guard we should realize we need one.
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Re: Training Camp Thread / Media Day 

Post#98 » by ATLTimekeeper » Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:15 pm

TheGeneral99 wrote:At least team has expectations to make the playoffs as opposed to Yak last media day saying it doesn't matter if we win or lose, lol.


Two years ago Masai called Pascal selfish on media day, and then we had to watch Pascal scramble to defend himself.

Last year Jak was saying this year is a good year to skip.

There's not much to talk about this year because everyone has their head screwed on right from the get go.
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Post#99 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:18 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:
TheGeneral99 wrote:At least team has expectations to make the playoffs as opposed to Yak last media day saying it doesn't matter if we win or lose, lol.


Two years ago Masai called Pascal selfish on media day, and then we had to watch Pascal scramble to defend himself.

Last year Jak was saying this year is a good year to skip.

There's not much to talk about this year because everyone has their head screwed on right from the get go.


That part is better.
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Re: Training Camp Thread / Media Day 

Post#100 » by HumbleRen » Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:43 pm

It’s media day. Not end of the season pressers lol.

It’s supposed to be a light spirted day. Media pressing them for authentic answers would be in bad faith.

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