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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#881 » by thelead » Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:09 am

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OnlyFranz22 wrote:Am I crazy for thinking CJ McCollum ends up on the Magic by end of year?

CJ makes $30 mil... it would be very difficult for the Magic to make the money work while also giving Washington something they'd want. Our contracts are very top heavy at the moment.

It would have to be something ridiculous like WCJ, Goga, and AB or just Suggs for 34 year old CJ. No thanks.

Maybe CJ gets bought out but we'd still need to find a way to dump salary to pick him up at the minimum.


You think he is gonna stick around Washington being happy and not get bought out?

who knows but he's not a malcontent. And even if he is looking for a buyout, Houston just became a lot more attractive. A better shot at a title this year, more money, and a starting spot with tons of minutes.
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#882 » by OnlyFranz22 » Thu Sep 25, 2025 4:14 am

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thelead wrote:CJ makes $30 mil... it would be very difficult for the Magic to make the money work while also giving Washington something they'd want. Our contracts are very top heavy at the moment.

It would have to be something ridiculous like WCJ, Goga, and AB or just Suggs for 34 year old CJ. No thanks.

Maybe CJ gets bought out but we'd still need to find a way to dump salary to pick him up at the minimum.


You think he is gonna stick around Washington being happy and not get bought out?

who knows but he's not a malcontent. And even if he is looking for a buyout, Houston just became a lot more attractive. A better shot at a title this year, more money, and a starting spot with tons of minutes.



How is Houston closer to a championship when the east has a much easier path?

And why would he want starter minutes at this point in his career?
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#883 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:36 pm

Zero chance if CJ gets bought out, he signs with the Magic to be the 6th guard. Many more teams out there where he can still earn solid minutes.
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#884 » by Skybox » Fri Sep 26, 2025 12:48 pm

Oh man...Jared McCain tore a ligament in his right thumb...unclear how serious an injury that is but terrible break for a really promising kid. I love his game (as evidenced by the many trade ideas that land him in our lap over the year)
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Post#885 » by Skybox » Fri Sep 26, 2025 2:18 pm

I was talking to someone in a MEM hoodie yesterday and she said that KCP is not going to play for MEM...did I miss something?
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#886 » by JoshuaPotter » Fri Sep 26, 2025 2:50 pm

I'm not sure I would entertain any trade offers at the moment. We kinda did skybox dream over the offseason in terms of moves. Not that something is impossible, just sure isn't likely.
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#887 » by MasterGMer » Fri Sep 26, 2025 4:54 pm

Mr. Skybox, we need you in the trade thread. Any more mock trade before the season?
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#888 » by Skybox » Fri Sep 26, 2025 6:49 pm

I honestly don't know where to start re: trades. The obvious weakest link in the starting lineup is the Center spot, but I'm not sure a better option exists and most other lineup questions might be better reconsidered after we have a chance to see what influence the 2 new offensive=minded asst. coaches have. It's far from inconceivable that quite a few guys who couldn't throw a ball in the ocean last season revert (at least) to the average or maybe even better in a faster-paced offense with significantly more playmaking and shooting firepower added.

The blockbuster candidates would be Suggs -which I wouldn't do. The next tier of (perhaps) marketable assets would be Goga, AB, possibly even Mo (if he wanted to look for more money elsewhere-with our blessing). Penda's level of readiness could have a real impact on JI's future here. We have no significant draft equity. Even a disappointment like Jett is worth taking a longer look at, IMO, versus paying to get off of his expiring deal. The biggest change of the offseason has got to be a revamping of the offense. I think they've done very well but it's still not apparent where the holes are. We'll know a lot more as the season goes on and we see slim Isaac, mature Penda, "even better as a pro Jase", etc. Maybe Goga will leap ahead of WCJ and WCJ's contract will look really undesirable to us, Isaac will cross the point of no salvation, AB might grumble about his limited role vs upcoming extension, Tyus might look like a miracle dishing out orderly and efficient assists to the point that FO taps out on the "No PG" offense...I'm not necessarily rooting for any of these scenarios-but there are many ways things unfold.

Even my ridiculous brain doesn't even have an idea of who fits, who's redundant, who's at their highest value, etc...I'm kind of hoping for a quiet time at least until the TD because we're not really sure how it will all come together. I really hope that our next move(s) are geared towards contending, not scrambling to cut payroll.
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Post#889 » by orlando_joe » Sun Sep 28, 2025 11:32 am

Skybox wrote:I honestly don't know where to start re: trades. The obvious weakest link in the starting lineup is the Center spot, but I'm not sure a better option exists and most other lineup questions might be better reconsidered after we have a chance to see what influence the 2 new offensive=minded asst. coaches have. It's far from inconceivable that quite a few guys who couldn't throw a ball in the ocean last season revert (at least) to the average or maybe even better in a faster-paced offense with significantly more playmaking and shooting firepower added.

The blockbuster candidates would be Suggs -which I wouldn't do. The next tier of (perhaps) marketable assets would be Goga, AB, possibly even Mo (if he wanted to look for more money elsewhere-with our blessing). Penda's level of readiness could have a real impact on JI's future here. We have no significant draft equity. Even a disappointment like Jett is worth taking a longer look at, IMO, versus paying to get off of his expiring deal. The biggest change of the offseason has got to be a revamping of the offense. I think they've done very well but it's still not apparent where the holes are. We'll know a lot more as the season goes on and we see slim Isaac, mature Penda, "even better as a pro Jase", etc. Maybe Goga will leap ahead of WCJ and WCJ's contract will look really undesirable to us, Isaac will cross the point of no salvation, AB might grumble about his limited role vs upcoming extension, Tyus might look like a miracle dishing out orderly and efficient assists to the point that FO taps out on the "No PG" offense...I'm not necessarily rooting for any of these scenarios-but there are many ways things unfold.

Even my ridiculous brain doesn't even have an idea of who fits, who's redundant, who's at their highest value, etc...I'm kind of hoping for a quiet time at least until the TD because we're not really sure how it will all come together. I really hope that our next move(s) are geared towards contending, not scrambling to cut payroll.

that is as close to ..i really like this team ...i have seen you post...lol
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Post#891 » by Skybox » Sun Sep 28, 2025 11:30 pm

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Skybox wrote:I honestly don't know where to start re: trades. The obvious weakest link in the starting lineup is the Center spot, but I'm not sure a better option exists and most other lineup questions might be better reconsidered after we have a chance to see what influence the 2 new offensive=minded asst. coaches have. It's far from inconceivable that quite a few guys who couldn't throw a ball in the ocean last season revert (at least) to the average or maybe even better in a faster-paced offense with significantly more playmaking and shooting firepower added.

The blockbuster candidates would be Suggs -which I wouldn't do. The next tier of (perhaps) marketable assets would be Goga, AB, possibly even Mo (if he wanted to look for more money elsewhere-with our blessing). Penda's level of readiness could have a real impact on JI's future here. We have no significant draft equity. Even a disappointment like Jett is worth taking a longer look at, IMO, versus paying to get off of his expiring deal. The biggest change of the offseason has got to be a revamping of the offense. I think they've done very well but it's still not apparent where the holes are. We'll know a lot more as the season goes on and we see slim Isaac, mature Penda, "even better as a pro Jase", etc. Maybe Goga will leap ahead of WCJ and WCJ's contract will look really undesirable to us, Isaac will cross the point of no salvation, AB might grumble about his limited role vs upcoming extension, Tyus might look like a miracle dishing out orderly and efficient assists to the point that FO taps out on the "No PG" offense...I'm not necessarily rooting for any of these scenarios-but there are many ways things unfold.

Even my ridiculous brain doesn't even have an idea of who fits, who's redundant, who's at their highest value, etc...I'm kind of hoping for a quiet time at least until the TD because we're not really sure how it will all come together. I really hope that our next move(s) are geared towards contending, not scrambling to cut payroll.

that is as close to ..i really like this team ...i have seen you post...lol


I get it...but I also smell a little of the old "why do you hate that guy?" if I propose a trade, which has never been my mentality. Unless a team is PERFECT, then there are things worth pondering and discussing. Some shake out and quickly fail under further discussion and some don't. Saying NO to everything because a player is good or popular or "family" is missing the whole exercise.
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#892 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Sep 29, 2025 1:38 pm

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Skybox wrote:I honestly don't know where to start re: trades. The obvious weakest link in the starting lineup is the Center spot, but I'm not sure a better option exists and most other lineup questions might be better reconsidered after we have a chance to see what influence the 2 new offensive=minded asst. coaches have. It's far from inconceivable that quite a few guys who couldn't throw a ball in the ocean last season revert (at least) to the average or maybe even better in a faster-paced offense with significantly more playmaking and shooting firepower added.

The blockbuster candidates would be Suggs -which I wouldn't do. The next tier of (perhaps) marketable assets would be Goga, AB, possibly even Mo (if he wanted to look for more money elsewhere-with our blessing). Penda's level of readiness could have a real impact on JI's future here. We have no significant draft equity. Even a disappointment like Jett is worth taking a longer look at, IMO, versus paying to get off of his expiring deal. The biggest change of the offseason has got to be a revamping of the offense. I think they've done very well but it's still not apparent where the holes are. We'll know a lot more as the season goes on and we see slim Isaac, mature Penda, "even better as a pro Jase", etc. Maybe Goga will leap ahead of WCJ and WCJ's contract will look really undesirable to us, Isaac will cross the point of no salvation, AB might grumble about his limited role vs upcoming extension, Tyus might look like a miracle dishing out orderly and efficient assists to the point that FO taps out on the "No PG" offense...I'm not necessarily rooting for any of these scenarios-but there are many ways things unfold.

Even my ridiculous brain doesn't even have an idea of who fits, who's redundant, who's at their highest value, etc...I'm kind of hoping for a quiet time at least until the TD because we're not really sure how it will all come together. I really hope that our next move(s) are geared towards contending, not scrambling to cut payroll.

that is as close to ..i really like this team ...i have seen you post...lol


I get it...but I also smell a little of the old "why do you hate that guy?" if I propose a trade, which has never been my mentality. Unless a team is PERFECT, then there are things worth pondering and discussing. Some shake out and quickly fail under further discussion and some don't. Saying NO to everything because a player is good or popular or "family" is missing the whole exercise.


Ignoring our top 3 guys because there stock might not really go anywhere.

Present Highs = chance to sell high
AB, Jase, Penda, WCJ

Present Low
Goga, Isaac, Jett

Looking at the low category. All 3 of those guys likely have a chance to retain some to all value. Isaac, again, if healthy is a monster on defense. This is not contestable. Goga on the other hand, once you get past his spot defense, he provides somehow less then Isaac does on offense.

Jett, on paper, is THE GUY to recoup value. He just has to be pedestrian on defense, and I worry that it just isn't him. Otherwise, he has showcased a shot. Granted, he couldn't earn a spot on a team that desperately needing shooting, but at the same time he wasn't going to go out there and shoot 8 a game.
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Post#893 » by Optimus_Steel » Sat Oct 4, 2025 12:00 pm

Watching the Suns Lakers preseason game…its really embarrassing that Bronny was given a 4 year guaranteed contract….let alone drafted…


He cant do anything. He is a innocent bystander…the Suns targeting him every possession and pretty much score because of his lack of size. He cant do much because he has a weak skillset. He may bring the ball up court but thats it, he cant initiate or do anything worthwhile. Its 4 on 5 when he is out there. Its like he is a fan that won a be a player for a day contest…
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Post#894 » by pepe1991 » Sun Oct 5, 2025 6:00 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:Watching the Suns Lakers preseason game…its really embarrassing that Bronny was given a 4 year guaranteed contract….let alone drafted…


He cant do anything. He is a innocent bystander…the Suns targeting him every possession and pretty much score because of his lack of size. He cant do much because he has a weak skillset. He may bring the ball up court but thats it, he cant initiate or do anything worthwhile. Its 4 on 5 when he is out there. Its like he is a fan that won a be a player for a day contest…


NBA preseson games are complete mess with near 40 men playing but yea... He has no skills nor size.
And audacity of people who dare calling him "good defender" :lol:

Billionaire's son playing ball because his daddy paid. Like, dude, you are 20 or whatever, go bang hoes, snoar coke like other young kids do, you don't need all this.
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Post#895 » by Optimus_Steel » Sun Oct 5, 2025 12:08 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:Watching the Suns Lakers preseason game…its really embarrassing that Bronny was given a 4 year guaranteed contract….let alone drafted…


He cant do anything. He is a innocent bystander…the Suns targeting him every possession and pretty much score because of his lack of size. He cant do much because he has a weak skillset. He may bring the ball up court but thats it, he cant initiate or do anything worthwhile. Its 4 on 5 when he is out there. Its like he is a fan that won a be a player for a day contest…


NBA preseson games are complete mess with near 40 men playing but yea... He has no skills nor size.
And audacity of people who dare calling him "good defender" :lol:

Billionaire's son playing ball because his daddy paid. Like, dude, you are 20 or whatever, go bang hoes, snoar coke like other young kids do, you don't need all this.



The reason they say he is a good defender is because he cant do anything else and has no skillset so they say “oh he must be a good defender”. Its like wish casting something worthwhile out of someone that doesn’t have the ability to because of who his dad is. Like yea draft a 6”2 guy because he is a strictly a good defender is something that doesn’t actually happen…even if that was true his defense is ineffective.
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Post#896 » by thelead » Tue Oct 7, 2025 12:28 am

KCP knocks down his first 3 for Memphis :lol:
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Post#897 » by RookieStar » Tue Oct 7, 2025 12:40 am

thelead wrote:KCP knocks down his first 3 for Memphis :lol:


I just posted something like that in the other thread. Lol

But the Pistons are down big against the Ja-less MEM. Werent they some delusional fans think is gonna be better than us
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Post#898 » by thelead » Tue Oct 7, 2025 12:46 am

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thelead wrote:KCP knocks down his first 3 for Memphis :lol:


I just posted something like that in the other thread. Lol

But the Pistons are down big against the Ja-less MEM. Werent they some delusional fans think is gonna be better than us

It's preseason... but I do have questions about the Cade/Ivey backcourt. They took off around the time Ivey went down.
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Post#899 » by RookieStar » Tue Oct 7, 2025 12:58 am

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thelead wrote:KCP knocks down his first 3 for Memphis :lol:


I just posted something like that in the other thread. Lol

But the Pistons are down big against the Ja-less MEM. Werent they some delusional fans think is gonna be better than us

It's preseason... but I do have questions about the Cade/Ivey backcourt. They took off around the time Ivey went down.


True. Lol but i dunno...

Cade is carrying his team. I dunno who js gonna help him.
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Post#900 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Tue Oct 7, 2025 2:17 am

I didn’t realize that Victor Oladipo was playing overseas.
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