Mobley for JJJ: rare star for star edition

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Re: Mobley for JJJ: rare star for star edition 

Post#21 » by Skybox » Sun Oct 5, 2025 11:32 pm

Mobley gets 4 more rebs per game and he plays next to Allen…he’s just better, more versatile, and younger. CLE doesn’t even understand the proposal, let alone agree.
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Re: Mobley for JJJ: rare star for star edition 

Post#22 » by Wolveswin » Mon Oct 6, 2025 1:42 am

Morant + JJJ

FOR

Garland + Mobley


Who says no?

And yes a 3rd team is needed.
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Re: rare star for star edition: Mobley for JJJ 

Post#23 » by QMemphis » Mon Oct 6, 2025 1:53 am

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QMemphis wrote:Jaren is a better offensive player than Mobley. Mobley is slightly better on defense and is a much better rebounder. That being said Grizz are not trading Jaren.

We need his offense and he is our homegrown talent. Mobley is a great but is best as a center likely due to his 3pt shooting mainly but both are great cornerstone players. Grizz tried moving up to get Mobley but Houston wouldn’t budge.


Jaren is also frequently injured.


I’m fine with betting on Jaren. He is a true 3 level scorer as well as one if the most versatile defenders in the league.
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Re: rare star for star edition: Mobley for JJJ 

Post#24 » by JRoy » Mon Oct 6, 2025 2:05 am

QMemphis wrote:
JRoy wrote:
QMemphis wrote:Jaren is a better offensive player than Mobley. Mobley is slightly better on defense and is a much better rebounder. That being said Grizz are not trading Jaren.

We need his offense and he is our homegrown talent. Mobley is a great but is best as a center likely due to his 3pt shooting mainly but both are great cornerstone players. Grizz tried moving up to get Mobley but Houston wouldn’t budge.


Jaren is also frequently injured.


I’m fine with betting on Jaren. He is a true 3 level scorer as well as one if the most versatile defenders in the league.


He’s a fine player. Hes just not worth Evan Mobley.
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Re: rare star for star edition: Mobley for JJJ 

Post#25 » by QMemphis » Mon Oct 6, 2025 2:10 am

JRoy wrote:
QMemphis wrote:
JRoy wrote:
Jaren is also frequently injured.


I’m fine with betting on Jaren. He is a true 3 level scorer as well as one if the most versatile defenders in the league.


He’s a fine player. Hes just not worth Evan Mobley.



As I mentioned I wouldn’t trade Jaren for Evan. But Evan is a fantastic player as well.
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Re: rare star for star edition: Mobley for JJJ 

Post#26 » by JRoy » Mon Oct 6, 2025 2:23 am

QMemphis wrote:
JRoy wrote:
QMemphis wrote:
I’m fine with betting on Jaren. He is a true 3 level scorer as well as one if the most versatile defenders in the league.


He’s a fine player. Hes just not worth Evan Mobley.



As I mentioned I wouldn’t trade Jaren for Evan. But Evan is a fantastic player as well.


Sure but if the deal were on the table, MEM would need to add.
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Re: rare star for star edition: Mobley for JJJ 

Post#27 » by QMemphis » Mon Oct 6, 2025 2:31 am

JRoy wrote:
QMemphis wrote:
JRoy wrote:
He’s a fine player. Hes just not worth Evan Mobley.



As I mentioned I wouldn’t trade Jaren for Evan. But Evan is a fantastic player as well.


Sure but if the deal were on the table, MEM would need to add.



I don’t agree. Jaren ability to play 4 comfortably and close as a center is not replaceable by what Evan produces especially on offense.
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Re: Mobley for JJJ: rare star for star edition 

Post#28 » by jbk1234 » Mon Oct 6, 2025 2:37 am

Wolveswin wrote:Morant + JJJ

FOR

Garland + Mobley


Who says no?

And yes a 3rd team is needed.


The Cavs. They're not going to trade Mobley.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Post#29 » by MrBigShot » Mon Oct 6, 2025 3:13 am

JJJ has been absolutely atrocious every time he's played in the playoffs. He puts up nice counting stats in the regular season. Mobley is better and has a lot of room to get better, no chance the Cavs trade him for a guy like JJJ.
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Post#30 » by SkyHook » Mon Oct 6, 2025 4:18 am

A nonsensical proposal. In a league where there's no shortage of overrated players, JJJ is probably the most overrated to me. Unless and until he learns/decides to be something more than an absolutely anemic rebounder for his size (exactly league average in rebounding rate, lower than his SG last year) he'll be fine but grossly overpaid.
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Re: rare star for star edition: Mobley for JJJ 

Post#31 » by esvl » Mon Oct 6, 2025 12:42 pm

JRoy wrote:
esvl wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
And on a contract that doesn't reflect the fact that he's frequently injured. He's talented, and will likely have good trade value, but if he's moved it will be to a team that's looking to achieve escape velocity from a rebuild rather than a contender over the second apron.

Is either Hali or Tatum frequently injured? Just curious what is the standard.


Neither of those guys is in this deal.

That’s what I thought
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Post#32 » by jbk1234 » Mon Oct 6, 2025 6:10 pm

esvl wrote:
JRoy wrote:
esvl wrote:Is either Hali or Tatum frequently injured? Just curious what is the standard.


Neither of those guys is in this deal.

That’s what I thought


If you're honestly asking, I think that Haliburton's injury history would be factored in by a trade partner, particularly a partner already in the tax.

Tatum has played in 64 or more games every season he's been in the NBA, and 70 or more games in 7 out of the 9 seasons he's been in the NBA. He's not a good comp to JJJ. His first serious injury was in the playoffs last season.
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Re: rare star for star edition: Mobley for JJJ 

Post#33 » by esvl » Mon Oct 6, 2025 7:51 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
esvl wrote:
JRoy wrote:
Neither of those guys is in this deal.

That’s what I thought


If you're honestly asking, I think that Haliburton's injury history would be factored in by a trade partner, particularly a partner already in the tax.

Tatum has played in 64 or more games every season he's been in the NBA, and 70 or more games in 7 out of the 9 seasons he's been in the NBA. He's not a good comp to JJJ. His first serious injury was in the playoffs last season.

My point is that all payers are mortal and can get a season ending injury in every game. Some face the unpleasant experience in the 1st part of their careers, some in the 2nd. We are certain that Mobley will be less injured in his career than JJJ is what triggered me in the arguments above.
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Post#34 » by JRoy » Mon Oct 6, 2025 7:53 pm

esvl wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
esvl wrote:That’s what I thought


If you're honestly asking, I think that Haliburton's injury history would be factored in by a trade partner, particularly a partner already in the tax.

Tatum has played in 64 or more games every season he's been in the NBA, and 70 or more games in 7 out of the 9 seasons he's been in the NBA. He's not a good comp to JJJ. His first serious injury was in the playoffs last season.

My point is that all payers are mortal and can get a season ending injury in every game. Some face the unpleasant experience in the 1st part of their careers, some in the 2nd. We are certain that Mobley will be less injured in his career than JJJ is what triggered me in the arguments above.


This far JJJ has been the more injured player, that lowers his value.
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Re: rare star for star edition: Mobley for JJJ 

Post#35 » by jbk1234 » Mon Oct 6, 2025 8:11 pm

esvl wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
esvl wrote:That’s what I thought


If you're honestly asking, I think that Haliburton's injury history would be factored in by a trade partner, particularly a partner already in the tax.

Tatum has played in 64 or more games every season he's been in the NBA, and 70 or more games in 7 out of the 9 seasons he's been in the NBA. He's not a good comp to JJJ. His first serious injury was in the playoffs last season.

My point is that all payers are mortal and can get a season ending injury in every game. Some face the unpleasant experience in the 1st part of their careers, some in the 2nd. We are certain that Mobley will be less injured in his career than JJJ is what triggered me in the arguments above.


Nothing is certain. Zion may never get injured again, but the information available will be used in evaluations by professionals.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.

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