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jayu70 wrote:Thoughts?
It's worded ambiguously, but it seems like that's a lot going on all at once. I don't like the replay center communicating to the officials absent a challenge. I'm all for getting calls right. I'm all for adding a 4th official and changing the rules to allow the replay center to buzz in on obvious missed or bad calls. I'm all for challenges to be reviewed solely by the replay center and cutting the officials on the floor out of it. I just want to be as transparent as possible.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Per the Wiretap... "There is "some distance" in the early stages of extension discussions between Dyson Daniels and the Atlanta Hawks, according to Jake Fischer of The People's Insider."
If he makes it to RFA, I'd love to see the Jazz make a big offer as I've wanted him in Utah for a couple of years now.
If he makes it to RFA, I'd love to see the Jazz make a big offer as I've wanted him in Utah for a couple of years now.
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jbk1234 wrote:jayu70 wrote:Thoughts?
It's worded ambiguously, but it seems like that's a lot going on all at once. I don't like the replay center communicating to the officials absent a challenge. I'm all for getting calls right. I'm all for adding a 4th official and changing the rules to allow the replay center to buzz in on obvious missed or bad calls. I'm all for challenges to be reviewed solely by the replay center and cutting the officials on the floor out of it. I just want to be as transparent as possible.
Agree with all, but especially agree with the bolded
In a no-win argument, the first poster to Let It Go will at least retain some peace of mind
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SkyHook wrote:Per the Wiretap... "There is "some distance" in the early stages of extension discussions between Dyson Daniels and the Atlanta Hawks, according to Jake Fischer of The People's Insider."
If he makes it to RFA, I'd love to see the Jazz make a big offer as I've wanted him in Utah for a couple of years now.
Same. I'd be pretty open to doing something like 30 million.

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babyjax13 wrote:SkyHook wrote:Per the Wiretap... "There is "some distance" in the early stages of extension discussions between Dyson Daniels and the Atlanta Hawks, according to Jake Fischer of The People's Insider."
If he makes it to RFA, I'd love to see the Jazz make a big offer as I've wanted him in Utah for a couple of years now.
Same. I'd be pretty open to doing something like 30 million.
would probably take more for them to not match. Thats jalen suggs money which is a pretty fair comp for atlanta to match? (assuming daniels doesnt regress)
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Godaddycurse wrote:babyjax13 wrote:SkyHook wrote:Per the Wiretap... "There is "some distance" in the early stages of extension discussions between Dyson Daniels and the Atlanta Hawks, according to Jake Fischer of The People's Insider."
If he makes it to RFA, I'd love to see the Jazz make a big offer as I've wanted him in Utah for a couple of years now.
Same. I'd be pretty open to doing something like 30 million.
would probably take more for them to not match. Thats jalen suggs money which is a pretty fair comp for atlanta to match? (assuming daniels doesnt regress)
I would hope they'd match that. I would just be hesitant to offer more than that given the cost structure of putting together a team now. But if they are far apart on an extension, I am curious where Atlanta is? Suggs feels like a decent comp in terms of what he should be paid.

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Ja Morant trades feel close to impossible. It feels like he's a ticking time bomb and he's one bad landing from missing a large part of a season. I don't know if Memphis could get a positive return in a deal.
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MoreyWins wrote:Ja Morant trades feel close to impossible. It feels like he's a ticking time bomb and he's one bad landing from missing a large part of a season. I don't know if Memphis could get a positive return in a deal.
I am sure they can, there are few players as talented. The issue is that they won't get a return that reflects his actual impact when he is playing and healthy because he is always injured in some way and has had so many stupid off court problems.

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
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MoreyWins wrote:Ja Morant trades feel close to impossible. It feels like he's a ticking time bomb and he's one bad landing from missing a large part of a season. I don't know if Memphis could get a positive return in a deal.
I guess the 26 draft has a a couple of really good PG prospects in it, which could give teams like the Jazz and Wizards pause ahead of it, but after the draft, they absolutely could get positive value from a rebuilding team looking to achieve escape velocity.
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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jbk1234 wrote:MoreyWins wrote:Ja Morant trades feel close to impossible. It feels like he's a ticking time bomb and he's one bad landing from missing a large part of a season. I don't know if Memphis could get a positive return in a deal.
I guess the 26 draft has a a couple of really good PG prospects in it, which could give teams like the Jazz and Wizards pause ahead of it, but after the draft, they absolutely could get positive value from a rebuilding team looking to achieve escape velocity.
Positive value? Certainly. Superstar value, commensurate with his impact? Doubtful.
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SkyHook wrote:jbk1234 wrote:MoreyWins wrote:Ja Morant trades feel close to impossible. It feels like he's a ticking time bomb and he's one bad landing from missing a large part of a season. I don't know if Memphis could get a positive return in a deal.
I guess the 26 draft has a a couple of really good PG prospects in it, which could give teams like the Jazz and Wizards pause ahead of it, but after the draft, they absolutely could get positive value from a rebuilding team looking to achieve escape velocity.
Positive value? Certainly. Superstar value, commensurate with his impact? Doubtful.
I don't think anyone is getting a Paul George to the Clippers level return again because the circumstances were so unique, and frankly, how it worked out for the Clippers. Even AD to the Lakers will be difficult to replicate. However, if the Wizards young players perform better than expected, I suspect that cap relief and a couple of firsts and swaps could be on the table. That seems to be the basic formula.
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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jbk1234 wrote:SkyHook wrote:jbk1234 wrote:
I guess the 26 draft has a a couple of really good PG prospects in it, which could give teams like the Jazz and Wizards pause ahead of it, but after the draft, they absolutely could get positive value from a rebuilding team looking to achieve escape velocity.
Positive value? Certainly. Superstar value, commensurate with his impact? Doubtful.
I don't think anyone is getting a Paul George to the Clippers level return again because the circumstances were so unique, and frankly, how it worked out for the Clippers. Even AD to the Lakers will be difficult to replicate. However, if the Wizards young players perform better than expected, I suspect that cap relief and a couple of firsts and swaps could be on the table. That seems to be the basic formula.
I think we're on the same page. That's in the ballpark of what I could see the Jazz offering.
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Instantaneous no from the Jazz.
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testicular torsion pain is similar to childbirth (if thats what he had), so i agree with you..
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We just don't need another guard. But I think it is interesting for Boston and Houston - interesting enough that maybe another team has a good center that can fill the gap here?

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babyjax13 wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:babyjax13 wrote:Same. I'd be pretty open to doing something like 30 million.
would probably take more for them to not match. Thats jalen suggs money which is a pretty fair comp for atlanta to match? (assuming daniels doesnt regress)
I would hope they'd match that. I would just be hesitant to offer more than that given the cost structure of putting together a team now. But if they are far apart on an extension, I am curious where Atlanta is? Suggs feels like a decent comp in terms of what he should be paid.
I haven't seen/heard any reports about what the Hawks have offered vs what Daniels is asking. Hawks have a history of going down to the wire on early extensions for most of their players.
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