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Do we know yet what the Knicks actually did at 5pm?
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B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Richard4444 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Seems like penny counting
Exactly. We need every penny we can find. Aller and Rose should be in the Time Square or in the Central Park hunting for pennies on the ground right now.
Absolutely correct. 180k is approximately 13 days of what a vet-min player's salary counts against the apron. Not having Shamet for the first two weeks of the season means the Knicks can have a 15th player on a vet-min contract for two weeks at the end of the season *and* for the playoffs. It's a no-brainer move.
There is definitely value in having a little more flexibility under the second apron but until another move is made it just seems like the difference between signing some random guy from the buyout market/G-League in the middle of March versus the end of March. We were debating the crucial additions of TJ Warren, Okeke or Moses Brown last March

Last year they did all that maneuvering which allowed them to fill the 15th roster spot around March 1st I believe and they still waited until March 10th just to offer PJ Tucker a 10 day. In the end it looks like they essentially just took some money out of someone like Hukporti's pocket, put some of it in Tucker's pocket, gave some back to Dolan and maybe greased a few palms in between. I hope all the maneuvering this year will be a little more fruitful for us as fans.
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Towards the end of year get Delano Banton. Problem solved.
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Fat Kat wrote:B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Do we know yet what the Knicks actually did at 5pm?
That's super interesting, from the pov of those of us here who like to play at GMing.
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JayTWill wrote:B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Richard4444 wrote:
Exactly. We need every penny we can find. Aller and Rose should be in the Time Square or in the Central Park hunting for pennies on the ground right now.
Absolutely correct. 180k is approximately 13 days of what a vet-min player's salary counts against the apron. Not having Shamet for the first two weeks of the season means the Knicks can have a 15th player on a vet-min contract for two weeks at the end of the season *and* for the playoffs. It's a no-brainer move.
There is definitely value in having a little more flexibility under the second apron but until another move is made it just seems like the difference between signing some random guy from the buyout market/G-League in the middle of March versus the end of March. We were debating the crucial additions of TJ Warren, Okeke or Moses Brown last March![]()
Last year they did all that maneuvering which allowed them to fill the 15th roster spot around March 1st I believe and they still waited until March 10th just to offer PJ Tucker a 10 day. In the end it looks like they essentially just took some money out of someone like Hukporti's pocket, put some of it in Tucker's pocket, gave some back to Dolan and maybe greased a few palms in between. I hope all the maneuvering this year will be a little more fruitful for us as fans.
I need to calculate the numbers to see if a last day of the season vet-min signing is possible. lol
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Is it that time of the year when some rando waived by another team is suppose to change the Knicks fortunes? That's my second favorite time right behind summer league superstar season.
If you'd rather see your team fail so you can be right
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JayTWill wrote:B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Richard4444 wrote:
Exactly. We need every penny we can find. Aller and Rose should be in the Time Square or in the Central Park hunting for pennies on the ground right now.
Absolutely correct. 180k is approximately 13 days of what a vet-min player's salary counts against the apron. Not having Shamet for the first two weeks of the season means the Knicks can have a 15th player on a vet-min contract for two weeks at the end of the season *and* for the playoffs. It's a no-brainer move.
There is definitely value in having a little more flexibility under the second apron but until another move is made it just seems like the difference between signing some random guy from the buyout market/G-League in the middle of March versus the end of March. We were debating the crucial additions of TJ Warren, Okeke or Moses Brown last March![]()
Last year they did all that maneuvering which allowed them to fill the 15th roster spot around March 1st I believe and they still waited until March 10th just to offer PJ Tucker a 10 day. In the end it looks like they essentially just took some money out of someone like Hukporti's pocket, put some of it in Tucker's pocket, gave some back to Dolan and maybe greased a few palms in between. I hope all the maneuvering this year will be a little more fruitful for us as fans.
Yeah, what JayTWill says

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Richard4444 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Richard4444 wrote:
Exactly. We need every penny we can find. Aller and Rose should be in the Time Square or in the Central Park hunting for pennies on the ground right now.
You’ll have to excuse me, I’ve been in the can for the last 20 years and I didn’t rat on nobody.
So who do we need these pennies for?
We may need reinforcements for the playoffs. We may need a replacement for a starter. Or even a backup. We may need more defensive center, playmaker, or another big wing.
End of the season?

We'll be fine. Why don't we worry about that then?
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Final roster predictions? This is where the capologists like to rain on our parade. I think we need to keep a third-string rim-protecting center in case Mitch goes down. If that happens, I'd like to see Hukporti at least start the game in Mitch's place and go from there. He's not Mitch but he does Mitch-like things and he keeps KAT at the 4. I'd also like to keep Shamet on the roster because he's instant fire off the bench and play a little point, hustles on defense, etc. Hi Richard444. lol
Can we keep Diawara. I think I like him better than Dadiet.
Can we keep Diawara. I think I like him better than Dadiet.
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HarthorneWingo wrote:Final roster predictions? This is where the capologists like to rain on our parade. I think we need to keep a third-string rim-protecting center in case Mitch goes down. If that happens, I'd like to see Hukporti at least start the game in Mitch's place and go from there. He's not Mitch but he does Mitch-like things and he keeps KAT at the 4. I'd also like to keep Shamet on the roster because he's instant fire off the bench and play a little point, hustles on defense, etc. Hi Richard444. lol
Can we keep Diawara. I think I like him better than Dadiet.
Diawara will make the roster along with Dadiet

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JayTWill wrote:B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Richard4444 wrote:
Exactly. We need every penny we can find. Aller and Rose should be in the Time Square or in the Central Park hunting for pennies on the ground right now.
Absolutely correct. 180k is approximately 13 days of what a vet-min player's salary counts against the apron. Not having Shamet for the first two weeks of the season means the Knicks can have a 15th player on a vet-min contract for two weeks at the end of the season *and* for the playoffs. It's a no-brainer move.
There is definitely value in having a little more flexibility under the second apron but until another move is made it just seems like the difference between signing some random guy from the buyout market/G-League in the middle of March versus the end of March. We were debating the crucial additions of TJ Warren, Okeke or Moses Brown last March![]()
Last year they did all that maneuvering which allowed them to fill the 15th roster spot around March 1st I believe and they still waited until March 10th just to offer PJ Tucker a 10 day. In the end it looks like they essentially just took some money out of someone like Hukporti's pocket, put some of it in Tucker's pocket, gave some back to Dolan and maybe greased a few palms in between. I hope all the maneuvering this year will be a little more fruitful for us as fans.
They also had a team option on the Tucker deal to create a trade chip for the following summer. They should also be able to pick up a few more bucks by keeping the rookie off a standard deal the first 2 weeks of the season.
They are about 148,000 under the 2nd apron with Shamet and Diawara on their full season deals. By the math here, saving 14 days on Shamet/Diawara would give us about 31 days of a vet minimum contract to round out the season. Season ends April 12 so we would be able to bring in a buyout guy on March 11. Trade deadline is Feb 5 so if a real player became available we would need him to wait 2-4 weeks between agreeing to a buyout (as most happen after the trade deadline) and signing with us.
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Looks like Shamet wins and Diawara played well.
Brunson/Kolek
Mikal/Deuce/Clarkson/Shamet/McC(2w)
OG/Hart/Tosan(2w)
KAT/Yabu/Diawara/Dadiet
Mitch/Huk/Jemison(2w)
I actually thought the young guys played well for the most part this preseason. Dadiet looks like trash. We still only have 2 PGs but, Kolek played well.
It's a long season and it starts in 3 days! Let's fuggin goooo!
Brunson/Kolek
Mikal/Deuce/Clarkson/Shamet/McC(2w)
OG/Hart/Tosan(2w)
KAT/Yabu/Diawara/Dadiet
Mitch/Huk/Jemison(2w)
I actually thought the young guys played well for the most part this preseason. Dadiet looks like trash. We still only have 2 PGs but, Kolek played well.
It's a long season and it starts in 3 days! Let's fuggin goooo!

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:Looks like Shamet wins and Diawara played well.
Brunson/Kolek
Mikal/Deuce/Clarkson/Shamet/McC(2w)
OG/Hart/Tosan(2w)
KAT/Yabu/Diawara/Dadiet
Mitch/Huk/Jemison(2w)
I actually thought the young guys played well for the most part this preseason. Dadiet looks like trash. We still only have 2 PGs but, Kolek played well.
It's a long season and it starts in 3 days! Let's fuggin goooo!
I'm pretty happy the way these decisions worked out. I wasn't impressed by the overall game of Matthews and though Ryan had little to offer. I really like Mo D being on our team, and glad the 2 kids Kolek and Dadiet will stick around.
If Brown gives the bench a chance to get some experience they may become decent players. All in all, I'm looking forward to this season a lot.
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BKlutch wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:Looks like Shamet wins and Diawara played well.
Brunson/Kolek
Mikal/Deuce/Clarkson/Shamet/McC(2w)
OG/Hart/Tosan(2w)
KAT/Yabu/Diawara/Dadiet
Mitch/Huk/Jemison(2w)
I actually thought the young guys played well for the most part this preseason. Dadiet looks like trash. We still only have 2 PGs but, Kolek played well.
It's a long season and it starts in 3 days! Let's fuggin goooo!
I'm pretty happy the way these decisions worked out. I wasn't impressed by the overall game of Matthews and though Ryan had little to offer. I really like Mo D being on our team, and glad the 2 kids Kolek and Dadiet will stick around.
If Brown gives the bench a chance to get some experience they may become decent players. All in all, I'm looking forward to this season a lot.
I'm hoping Clarkson doesn't play as bad as I think he will. I will be talking about him all season.

Really didn't see much from the starters to even know how we will play. The bench guys completely outplayed them except for Dadiet. He looked like ass cheeks. He's young so, there's time.
Tosan/Mo/Kolek played great. McC looked decent. Huk looked ok. Jemison looked ok. The end of our bench looks like we might have some options there. They should see playing time throughout the year.
Brown needs to make this all fit. I am glad Thibs is gone but, I'm not exactly excited about Brown being his replacement. T minus three days and counting!!

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">By my math, here's when each of the hard-capped teams with an open roster spot can fill those spots with a prorated veteran minimum contract (with rosters as they stand currently):<br><br>GSW - November 11<br>HOU - January 8<br>LAC - January 7<br>LAL - January 18<br>NYK - April 2<br>ORL - January 9 <a href="https://t.co/I3kNdEZvjf">https://t.co/I3kNdEZvjf</a></p>— Keith Smith (@KeithSmithNBA) <a href="?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 19, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Clarkson will be our new JR Smith. Some nights you'll hate him and some nights he'll ball out. I'm mentally prepared for the ups and downs.
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R-DAWG wrote:JayTWill wrote:B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Absolutely correct. 180k is approximately 13 days of what a vet-min player's salary counts against the apron. Not having Shamet for the first two weeks of the season means the Knicks can have a 15th player on a vet-min contract for two weeks at the end of the season *and* for the playoffs. It's a no-brainer move.
There is definitely value in having a little more flexibility under the second apron but until another move is made it just seems like the difference between signing some random guy from the buyout market/G-League in the middle of March versus the end of March. We were debating the crucial additions of TJ Warren, Okeke or Moses Brown last March![]()
Last year they did all that maneuvering which allowed them to fill the 15th roster spot around March 1st I believe and they still waited until March 10th just to offer PJ Tucker a 10 day. In the end it looks like they essentially just took some money out of someone like Hukporti's pocket, put some of it in Tucker's pocket, gave some back to Dolan and maybe greased a few palms in between. I hope all the maneuvering this year will be a little more fruitful for us as fans.
They also had a team option on the Tucker deal to create a trade chip for the following summer. They should also be able to pick up a few more bucks by keeping the rookie off a standard deal the first 2 weeks of the season.
They are about 148,000 under the 2nd apron with Shamet and Diawara on their full season deals. By the math here, saving 14 days on Shamet/Diawara would give us about 31 days of a vet minimum contract to round out the season. Season ends April 12 so we would be able to bring in a buyout guy on March 11. Trade deadline is Feb 5 so if a real player became available we would need him to wait 2-4 weeks between agreeing to a buyout (as most happen after the trade deadline) and signing with us.
Yeah, I mentioned guys like Jeffries and Tucker being given those "2 year deals" in one of my earlier posts. I don't know the CBA rules around those types of deals or if there is a deadline for them to be given but Tucker signed his 2 year deal on April 1st, one month after the Knicks had enough room to fill the last spot. It didn't seem like they were in any rush to commit money to that 15th roster spot. Maybe April 1st was the deadline and they simply need to clear enough space to fit another "2 year deal" at that date once again this year. Where are my CBA experts?
I'm not expecting the Knicks to be able to add a difference maker from the limited pool of talent in the buyout market especially since CBA prevents teams over the 1st apron from signing players that are making the nontaxpayer MLE ($14M~) or more at the time of the buyout. I can't imagine any good player on a cheaper contract not either being traded for value or kept.
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Achiuwa must be the best guy out there…
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Cam Payne and Precious are available if we want them back.