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Raptors Sign Julian Reese (Exhibit 10)

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Re: Raptors Sign Julian Reese (Exhibit 10) 

Post#21 » by YogurtProducer » Mon Oct 20, 2025 3:35 pm

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Everyone outside Poeltl is 6' 9" and under now.

Everyone outside two new guys including this scrub is 6' 8" and under. Yeah, allergic to size is right.


Which would you generally prefer 1) a guy that is 7 foot with standing reach of 8' 10", or 2) a guy that is 6' 9" with a 8' 10" standing reach?


I don't know why this piece of BS is still being thrown around when this team's been pathetic without Poeltl for a good reason. There's only so much wingspan can cover when they can just push you around just as easily as any other 6' 9" body. And there are plenty of long-armed guys that are 6' 10" and taller; it's just that FO has been allergic to bigs with true size/height fit for the position

This is just plain wrong. Your "height" can only tell you so much. You can have two guys with identical bodies, but their neck / head size can make one guy 6'9" and the other 6'11". The length of your neck doesn't help you defend your position at all.

Your wingspan and weight/strength are way better indicators of your ability to guard bigger guys. GENERALLY, height is a good indicator of those other things, but it on its own it useless.

We have been pathetic without Poeltl because we have not had a backup C is true - but we also sucked when we had Orlando Robinson and Collin Castleton who were traditional C sized. It is not like you just get a 7 footer and your problems are solved. The guy has to actually be able to play the damn game.

Shockingly - there are very few 7 footers who are mobile, smart, and skilled enough to effectively play NBA basketball.
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Re: Raptors Sign Julian Reese (Exhibit 10) 

Post#22 » by kalel123 » Mon Oct 20, 2025 3:41 pm

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Which would you generally prefer 1) a guy that is 7 foot with standing reach of 8' 10", or 2) a guy that is 6' 9" with a 8' 10" standing reach?


I don't know why this piece of BS is still being thrown around when this team's been pathetic without Poeltl for a good reason. There's only so much wingspan can cover when they can just push you around just as easily as any other 6' 9" body. And there are plenty of long-armed guys that are 6' 10" and taller; it's just that FO has been allergic to bigs with true size/height fit for the position

This is just plain wrong. Your "height" can only tell you so much. You can have two guys with identical bodies, but their neck / head size can make one guy 6'9" and the other 6'11". The length of your neck doesn't help you defend your position at all.

Your wingspan and weight/strength are way better indicators of your ability to guard bigger guys. GENERALLY, height is a good indicator of those other things, but it on its own it useless.

We have been pathetic without Poeltl because we have not had a backup C is true - but we also sucked when we had Orlando Robinson and Collin Castleton who were traditional C sized. It is not like you just get a 7 footer and your problems are solved. The guy has to actually be able to play the damn game.

Shockingly - there are very few 7 footers who are mobile, smart, and skilled enough to effectively play NBA basketball.


Orlando Robinson? Collin Castleton? You think those names even belong in this conversation? GTFOH with your weak sauce no-logic bull ****. And take your Orlando Robinson and Castleton with you.
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Re: Raptors Sign Julian Reese (Exhibit 10) 

Post#23 » by YogurtProducer » Mon Oct 20, 2025 4:13 pm

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I don't know why this piece of BS is still being thrown around when this team's been pathetic without Poeltl for a good reason. There's only so much wingspan can cover when they can just push you around just as easily as any other 6' 9" body. And there are plenty of long-armed guys that are 6' 10" and taller; it's just that FO has been allergic to bigs with true size/height fit for the position

This is just plain wrong. Your "height" can only tell you so much. You can have two guys with identical bodies, but their neck / head size can make one guy 6'9" and the other 6'11". The length of your neck doesn't help you defend your position at all.

Your wingspan and weight/strength are way better indicators of your ability to guard bigger guys. GENERALLY, height is a good indicator of those other things, but it on its own it useless.

We have been pathetic without Poeltl because we have not had a backup C is true - but we also sucked when we had Orlando Robinson and Collin Castleton who were traditional C sized. It is not like you just get a 7 footer and your problems are solved. The guy has to actually be able to play the damn game.

Shockingly - there are very few 7 footers who are mobile, smart, and skilled enough to effectively play NBA basketball.


Orlando Robinson? Collin Castleton? You think those names even belong in this conversation? GTFOH with your weak sauce no-logic bull ****. And take your Orlando Robinson and Castleton with you.

How is there no logic to my argument? You literally said there are ton of 6'10" or taller guys who have true size for the position. I pointed out ones we previously had who didn't fix the backup C problem. Are you not ready to admit maybe there is more to basketball than having pure height? Or do I also need to list out Aaron Baynes, Alex Len, Malik Williams, etc

Seriously man. Two player who are identical in terms of everything; wingspan, weight, etc. The only difference is player A is 6'10" and player B is 6'9" because player A has a massive forehead. Do you seriously think Player A is better suited to guard C's?
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Re: Raptors Sign Julian Reese (Exhibit 10) 

Post#24 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Mon Oct 20, 2025 4:47 pm

Maybe he turns into the next Anthony Parker.
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Re: Raptors Sign Julian Reese (Exhibit 10) 

Post#25 » by Tripod » Mon Oct 20, 2025 5:00 pm

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Tripod wrote:Allergic to height


Everyone outside Poeltl is 6' 9" and under now.

Everyone outside two new guys including this scrub is 6' 8" and under. Yeah, allergic to size is right.


Which would you generally prefer 1) a guy that is 7 foot with standing reach of 8' 10", or 2) a guy that is 6' 9" with a 8' 10" standing reach?

How about a 7 footer with a standing reach of more than 8' 10.

Is that allowed?
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Re: Raptors Sign Julian Reese (Exhibit 10) 

Post#26 » by kalel123 » Mon Oct 20, 2025 5:35 pm

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YogurtProducer wrote:This is just plain wrong. Your "height" can only tell you so much. You can have two guys with identical bodies, but their neck / head size can make one guy 6'9" and the other 6'11". The length of your neck doesn't help you defend your position at all.

Your wingspan and weight/strength are way better indicators of your ability to guard bigger guys. GENERALLY, height is a good indicator of those other things, but it on its own it useless.

We have been pathetic without Poeltl because we have not had a backup C is true - but we also sucked when we had Orlando Robinson and Collin Castleton who were traditional C sized. It is not like you just get a 7 footer and your problems are solved. The guy has to actually be able to play the damn game.

Shockingly - there are very few 7 footers who are mobile, smart, and skilled enough to effectively play NBA basketball.


Orlando Robinson? Collin Castleton? You think those names even belong in this conversation? GTFOH with your weak sauce no-logic bull ****. And take your Orlando Robinson and Castleton with you.

How is there no logic to my argument? You literally said there are ton of 6'10" or taller guys who have true size for the position. I pointed out ones we previously had who didn't fix the backup C problem. Are you not ready to admit maybe there is more to basketball than having pure height? Or do I also need to list out Aaron Baynes, Alex Len, Malik Williams, etc

Seriously man. Two player who are identical in terms of everything; wingspan, weight, etc. The only difference is player A is 6'10" and player B is 6'9" because player A has a massive forehead. Do you seriously think Player A is better suited to guard C's?


Logic would dictate when people discuss players that a team needs, nobody is thinking of G league scrubs who don't make an ounce of difference either way. And your last paragraph? WTF is even wrong with you?
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Re: Raptors Sign Julian Reese (Exhibit 10) 

Post#27 » by F22_Raptor » Mon Oct 20, 2025 6:29 pm

FO is eyeing Olivier Rioux...that's why. ;)
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Re: Raptors Sign Julian Reese (Exhibit 10) 

Post#28 » by Johnny Bball » Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:25 pm

kalel123 wrote:
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Everyone outside Poeltl is 6' 9" and under now.

Everyone outside two new guys including this scrub is 6' 8" and under. Yeah, allergic to size is right.


Which would you generally prefer 1) a guy that is 7 foot with standing reach of 8' 10", or 2) a guy that is 6' 9" with a 8' 10" standing reach?


I don't know why this piece of BS is still being thrown around when this team's been pathetic without Poeltl for a good reason. There's only so much wingspan can cover when they can just push you around just as easily as any other 6' 9" body. And there are plenty of long-armed guys that are 6' 10" and taller; it's just that FO has been allergic to bigs with true size/height fit for the position


Well that's a weird overreaction to something that isn't the point. Since Poeltl has a 7'3" standing reach. Poeltl is both. And he's fairly mobile for his size. Its not easy to find.

The point was...The slightly shorter but longer guy is generally quicker/more mobile, higher vert, faster second jump, and much easier to find. Its a trend all over the NBA, but ignore it all you want.

Uh...It's not like they are actually limiting it at 6'9" and not getting guys taller at 6' 10" because they capped it or anything. That's kind of nuts.
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Re: Raptors Sign Julian Reese (Exhibit 10) 

Post#29 » by Johnny Bball » Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:26 pm

Tripod wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
kalel123 wrote:
Everyone outside Poeltl is 6' 9" and under now.

Everyone outside two new guys including this scrub is 6' 8" and under. Yeah, allergic to size is right.


Which would you generally prefer 1) a guy that is 7 foot with standing reach of 8' 10", or 2) a guy that is 6' 9" with a 8' 10" standing reach?

How about a 7 footer with a standing reach of more than 8' 10.

Is that allowed?


Yep, it's allowed all over and they usually start and are paid big if they both long and are mobile. But it wasn't the point. The point was measuring by just height simply makes little sense anymore. For example, what is CMB position or, what position did some people think he will play best? His height isn't really why.
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Re: Raptors Sign Julian Reese (Exhibit 10) 

Post#30 » by YogurtProducer » Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:31 pm

kalel123 wrote:
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Orlando Robinson? Collin Castleton? You think those names even belong in this conversation? GTFOH with your weak sauce no-logic bull ****. And take your Orlando Robinson and Castleton with you.

How is there no logic to my argument? You literally said there are ton of 6'10" or taller guys who have true size for the position. I pointed out ones we previously had who didn't fix the backup C problem. Are you not ready to admit maybe there is more to basketball than having pure height? Or do I also need to list out Aaron Baynes, Alex Len, Malik Williams, etc

Seriously man. Two player who are identical in terms of everything; wingspan, weight, etc. The only difference is player A is 6'10" and player B is 6'9" because player A has a massive forehead. Do you seriously think Player A is better suited to guard C's?


Logic would dictate when people discuss players that a team needs, nobody is thinking of G league scrubs who don't make an ounce of difference either way. And your last paragraph? WTF is even wrong with you?

it's just that FO has been allergic to bigs with true size/height fit for the position

This was literally you in this thread man. And then any counter points you just shut down :lol:

And my last paragraph is relevant. You are hyper focused on heights and made the claim that:
There's only so much wingspan can cover when they can just push you around just as easily as any other 6' 9" body
To me it sounds like your lacking the logic here. Logic would recognize that height doesn't really impact if you can get "pushed around". Strength, and weight, would though.

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