Bears thread 13

[Dresden]

It's also a good sign that two of Poles' IOL pick ups are among are three highest rated Offensive players. I'm surprised Dalman is rated so highly- he seems to have given up a lot of sacks.

[Jimako10]

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I'm generally against trading picks for players midseason, especially when they're looking for a new contract but Will Mcdonald for a 3rd and breece for a 5th would be pretty enticing. It would be even more enticing if they can pull off a baltimore win this weekend.

[biggestbullsfan]

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I get the irony in my statement, but I feel that this could be a mistake lol. Braxton is bad but we don’t have a better swing tackle back up. Unless they offer something significant like a 4th or 5th but i doubt it lol

[Betta Bulleavit]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/where-bears-rank-statistically-heading-192524373.html

1st in sacks allowed
1st in take-aways

Basically sums it up.

FWIW, there are 7 teams that have allowed fewer sacks, so not sure where this data comes from. 4 of those teams have allowed fewer sacks despite playing an additional game.

That said, the Bears are doing well here relative to the past, and the offensive line has been solid.

I'd be interested in knowing if "sacks allowed" are tabulated based on the number of sacks that offensive lineman have allowed rather than total sack numbers. At least a few of the sacks that Caleb has taksn weren't really on the offensive line at all. He just ran out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage, which count as sacks but are more on ths QB and/or receivers.

[fleet]

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I'm generally against trading picks for players midseason, especially when they're looking for a new contract but Will Mcdonald for a 3rd and breece for a 5th would be pretty enticing. It would be even more enticing if they can pull off a baltimore win this weekend.

Grady Jarrett’s injury has me wondering if the Bears pull the trigger on the D-Line

[dougthonus]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/where-bears-rank-statistically-heading-192524373.html

1st in sacks allowed
1st in take-aways

Basically sums it up.

FWIW, there are 7 teams that have allowed fewer sacks, so not sure where this data comes from. 4 of those teams have allowed fewer sacks despite playing an additional game.

That said, the Bears are doing well here relative to the past, and the offensive line has been solid.

I'd be interested in knowing if "sacks allowed" are tabulated based on the number of sacks that offensive lineman have allowed rather than total sack numbers. At least a few of the sacks that Caleb has taksn weren't really on the offensive line at all. He just ran out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage, which count as sacks but are more on ths QB and/or receivers.

It's how many times Caleb has been sacked. It isn't distinguishing who the blame for the sack is on (similar to an INT still counts against the QB even if he hits the receiver in the chest and the ball bounces off his hands). There might be some more advanced stats that cover what you are discussing.

[Dresden]

Apparently Lamar is still limited in practice, questionable if he plays on Sunday or not.

Tyrod Taylor was named Jets starter for this week, if he's healthy, but he's day to day with a bad knee, so Fields may get another chance.

A fair number of QB's dinged up- Lamar, Tyrod, Bryce Young, Purdy, Daniels will miss another game.

[dice]

% of pass attempts ending in sack:

2.59% Daniel Jones
2.86% Bo Nix
2.91% Dak Prescott
3.79% Patrick Mahomes
4.21% Michael Penix
4.30% Matthew Stafford
4.39% Sam Darnold
4.45% Bryce Young
4.51% Joe Flacco
4.84% Aaron Rodgers
5.05% Jordan Love
5.07% Baker Mayfield
5.26% Caleb Williams

[fleet]

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His accuracy is bad. His EPA is leading the bottom third of the league. I don’t know if holding the ball is key, but it might be key for him. How much he can get better is anybody’s guess. I don’t think he reads the defense well enough to say getting the ball out faster would help, because he looks even less accurate when he tries to be quick. The Bears offense is surviving more or less without him being the reason why they score, and on turnovers. They have to be a team that can win with him. Perhaps not because of him.

[TheSuzerain]

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I'm generally against trading picks for players midseason, especially when they're looking for a new contract but Will Mcdonald for a 3rd and breece for a 5th would be pretty enticing. It would be even more enticing if they can pull off a baltimore win this weekend.

Will McDonald would get a 2nd. A 3rd is nuts.

[Dresden]

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His accuracy is bad. His EPA is leading the bottom third of the league. I don’t know if holding the ball is key, but it might be key for him. How much he can get better is anybody’s guess. I don’t think he reads the defense well enough to say getting the ball out faster would help, because he looks even less accurate when he tries to be quick. The Bears offense is surviving more or less without him being the reason why they score, and on turnovers. They have to be a team that can win with him. Perhaps not because of him.

Let's not get carried away. Until this last game, he'd been getting better each week. As BC has said, there's going to be some ups and downs.

[NZB2323]

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His accuracy is bad. His EPA is leading the bottom third of the league. I don’t know if holding the ball is key, but it might be key for him. How much he can get better is anybody’s guess. I don’t think he reads the defense well enough to say getting the ball out faster would help, because he looks even less accurate when he tries to be quick. The Bears offense is surviving more or less without him being the reason why they score, and on turnovers. They have to be a team that can win with him. Perhaps not because of him.

Let's not get carried away. Until this last game, he'd been getting better each week. As BC has said, there's going to be some ups and downs.

I don’t know if that’s true. He was worse week 4 than week 3.

I think we can be critical and have patience. Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen weren’t great their 2nd year. CJ Stroud and Jayden Daniels looked great their rookie year, but how are they looking now?

I went into the year expecting Caleb to look better the 2nd half of the year as he’s learning the Ben Johnson offense. The running game should help, cleaning up penalties should help, and Rome holding onto the ball should help. However, it can be frustrating that he’s not better considering how he has guys open, we can be competitive this year, and Drake Maye is looking like Tom Brady 2.0.

[dice]

NFC 25-13 vs. AFC heading into tonight's game

[biggestbullsfan]

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Oh we are about to get shredded lol

[nomorezorro]

you probably want to have at least one of your top 4 CBs on the field if you want to win a football game. alas,

[El Ridda]

you probably want to have at least one of your top 4 CBs on the field if you want to win a football game. alas,

Feels like every year the Bears get decimated by injuries at a position. Last year was OL. This year it’s our DBs.

[molepharmer]

you probably want to have at least one of your top 4 CBs on the field if you want to win a football game. alas,

Good thing Bears have such a great pass rush. Ugh. Guessing McCloud in for Gordon and Jaylon Jones for Stevenson with Blackwell as backup, plus some unknown getting elevated from practice squad(?).

[HearshotKDS]

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Oh we are about to get shredded lol

WIld how snakebitten the DB room has been. Following Corners are out for this game:

#1 outside CB: Jaylon Johnson
#2 outside CB: Stephenson
#1 slot CB: Kyler Gordon
#3 outside CB: Terrel Smith
#4?5? outside CB: the 5th round pick Frazier

What was the deepest position of the D is now thankful to have their 4?5?th outside CB still playing in Wright (and even he is on the list) - when they snagged him in the offseason Poles might have expected to see him play 40-50 snaps all year lol. I dont even know who the other outside guy is and frankly i probably dont need to learn it as hell be back on a PS as soon as the season is over. Will be starting their 2nd string slot corner in Blackwell at nickel who is actually relatively good for what is like the 4th-5th string DB on the roster. Bears might not have enough players to play a true Dime package lol they will need 3 S to defend against any 4 WR sets.

I dont know if ive ever seen a position hit harder in my 30 years of watching the Bears. They're 2 injuries away from pulling guys off the street and STARTING them.

[Dresden]

Yeah, Lamar probably saw this injury report and said "Yep coach, I'm good to go!"