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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#441 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:39 pm

Dogen wrote:
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Curmudgeon wrote:If they had given Simons' minutes to Gonzalez and Minott they would likely have won the game.


No rotation is going to cover up our severe lack of quality, rebounding bigs.


González is not showing much on the glass yet. He's a perimeter defender mainly, which is fine for now.

Team definitely needs another big if Boucher, Garza, Tillman, Minott, Walsh, etc, can't get it done.


Boucher looks washed on offense and on the glass
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Post#442 » by Dogen » Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:40 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:The problem is we're looking at is this: since the title, the office has added 7 players looking for a long term diamond in the rough

Scheierman
Minott
Hugo
Garza
Amari
Shulga
Simons

And Hugo is by far looking the best, and what even is Hugo, an energy defender and play finisher? It's possible all the other guys are nilch and even Hugo, it's been a nice start, but I don't know what Hugo is gonna be.

Brad taking so few swings on the draft instead for young vets their original team is not interested in re-signing, I don't agree with that strategy. Jaden Springer, could have been 2 seconds including #41 in last draft. #32 could have been Kalkbrenner instead it's turned into Shulga and Amari. We just have not added talent for years and years except bringing in massively expensive vets like Porzingis and Jrue -- and that approach just wasn't economically sustainable

I hope Hugo becomes a great player, everything is hinging on him IMO

ThePigeon wrote:JT will come back and fix everything
Especially the rebounding


Kalkbrenner at #32 looking like it would have been the pick in retrospect. He's done OK in his first 2 game and is a legit 7 ft. There was some thought that Brad was looking for 2-Way players in second round, and Kalkbrenner did not want to do that. Now he's starting for Charlotte. Maybe he could be starting here, or be in regular rotation after Neemy.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#443 » by jmr07019 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:40 pm

Offense did just fine today. Defense was terrible, again.

Gonna be hard to win with this front court. We can't clean the glass at all. I was calling for more Minott but he gave up an offensive rebound and a putback at the end of the game. If Minott had grabbed Celtics had a chance to cut it to 1 or 2. Was disappointed with Josh there.

Boucher needs play as PF and Center minutes need to be filled by Queta Garza Tillman. I'm glad Joe cut some minutes from Simons and Hauser. He now needs to reduce Pritchard and Whites minutes a bit and play the wings and bigs even more.

I would keep playing Josh and Hugo though. Celtics need to develop talent whether it's to keep or trade.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#444 » by Celts17Pride » Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:41 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:If the Celtics addressed the rebounding they are probably 3-0

Charles Bassey?

He'd never admit it, but I honestly think Brad is executing a soft tank. He knows this team can't rebound and he's not going to do a thing to address it. My .02

Been saying that all offseason, Stevens is not going to lift a finger to help this team. What you see is what you get. Celtics management is not trying to win.

People are going to have to deal with it
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#445 » by Bill Lumbergh » Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:43 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Bill Lumbergh wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:Charles Bassey?

He'd never admit it, but I honestly think Brad is executing a soft tank. He knows this team can't rebound and he's not going to do a thing to address it. My .02

Been saying that all offseason, Stevens is not going to lift a finger to help this team. What you see is what you get. Celtics management is not trying to win.

People are going to have to deal with it

Agreed.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#446 » by ThePigeon » Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:44 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:The problem is we're looking at is this: since the title, the office has added 7 players looking for a long term diamond in the rough

Scheierman
Minott
Hugo
Garza
Amari
Shulga
Simons

And Hugo is by far looking the best, and what even is Hugo, an energy defender and play finisher? It's possible all the other guys are nilch and even Hugo, it's been a nice start, but I don't know what Hugo is gonna be.

Brad taking so few swings on the draft instead for young vets their original team is not interested in re-signing, I don't agree with that strategy. Jaden Springer, could have been 2 seconds including #41 in last draft. #32 could have been Kalkbrenner instead it's turned into Shulga and Amari. We just have not added talent for years and years except bringing in massively expensive vets like Porzingis and Jrue -- and that approach just wasn't economically sustainable

I hope Hugo becomes a great player, everything is hinging on him IMO

ThePigeon wrote:JT will come back and fix everything
Especially the rebounding


I was joking and you are totally right
I criticised Brad for his poor drafts and trading for washed up young players. There is nothing like first impression - if you are good, it will be seen in a few minutes on your first game (and will continue throughout the first year). The late Reggie Lewis comes to mind. When I saw him play a couple of minutes at the end of games, you could see he was special. There are countless more examples and even more for busts that you could see on their first game (we had so many of these - Langford, JJJ and the plethora of small guards DA loved so much).
Bigs take time to develop, so at least get someone that is performing well and has the size and athleticism (Filipowski instead of Baylor; Kalk or other big on the last draft, or Powel for his athleticism). Brad's drafts and signing of minimum contract players are iffy at best
But, this is what Joe was dealt - and I prefer if we lose by playing the young. Amari for 20 minutes for example. He couldn't be worse than Garza. Play Hugo, Baylor and Walsh over Hauser and PP etc
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#447 » by jmr07019 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:46 pm

Green89 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:If they had given Simons' minutes to Gonzalez and Minott they would likely have won the game.


No rotation is going to cover up our severe lack of quality, rebounding bigs.


Boucher and Garza 3 rebounds in 22 minutes
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#448 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:48 pm

ThePigeon wrote:I was joking and you are totally right
I criticised Brad for his poor drafts and trading for washed up young players. There is nothing like first impression - if you are good, it will be seen in a few minutes on your first game (and will continue throughout the first year). The late Reggie Lewis comes to mind. When I saw him play a couple of minutes at the end of games, you could see he was special. There are countless more examples and even more for busts that you could see on their first game (we had so many of these - Langford, JJJ and the plethora of small guards DA loved so much).
Bigs take time to develop, so at least get someone that is performing well and has the size and athleticism (Filipowski instead of Baylor; Kalk or other big on the last draft, or Powel for his athleticism). Brad's drafts and signing of minimum contract players are iffy at best
But, this is what Joe was dealt - and I prefer if we lose by playing the young. Amari for 20 minutes for example. He couldn't be worse than Garza. Play Hugo, Baylor and Walsh over Hauser and PP etc

Agree. We've got a B2B. Lets see some Amari, Shulga, Hugo, Baylor, Minott and Walsh... let's see it. These are the guys we want to take a look at.

I am already off Simons and Garza. Minott, there some flashes. But lets see the others! let's go! Amari also is an awesome rebounder, lets have a look!!!
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#449 » by ThePigeon » Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:49 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Bill Lumbergh wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:Charles Bassey?

He'd never admit it, but I honestly think Brad is executing a soft tank. He knows this team can't rebound and he's not going to do a thing to address it. My .02

Been saying that all offseason, Stevens is not going to lift a finger to help this team. What you see is what you get. Celtics management is not trying to win.

People are going to have to deal with it



I have no faith in Brad's drafting, even if we get a top 3 pick
He will get the bust of the draft, or trade for a young that didn't play and 2 second round picks in the future
Too smart for all of us
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#450 » by Dogen » Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:51 pm

ThePigeon wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:The problem is we're looking at is this: since the title, the office has added 7 players looking for a long term diamond in the rough

Scheierman
Minott
Hugo
Garza
Amari
Shulga
Simons

And Hugo is by far looking the best, and what even is Hugo, an energy defender and play finisher? It's possible all the other guys are nilch and even Hugo, it's been a nice start, but I don't know what Hugo is gonna be.

Brad taking so few swings on the draft instead for young vets their original team is not interested in re-signing, I don't agree with that strategy. Jaden Springer, could have been 2 seconds including #41 in last draft. #32 could have been Kalkbrenner instead it's turned into Shulga and Amari. We just have not added talent for years and years except bringing in massively expensive vets like Porzingis and Jrue -- and that approach just wasn't economically sustainable

I hope Hugo becomes a great player, everything is hinging on him IMO

ThePigeon wrote:JT will come back and fix everything
Especially the rebounding


I was joking and you are totally right
I criticised Brad for his poor drafts and trading for washed up young players. There is nothing like first impression - if you are good, it will be seen in a few minutes on your first game (and will continue throughout the first year). The late Reggie Lewis comes to mind. When I saw him play a couple of minutes at the end of games, you could see he was special. There are countless more examples and even more for busts that you could see on their first game (we had so many of these - Langford, JJJ and the plethora of small guards DA loved so much).
Bigs take time to develop, so at least get someone that is performing well and has the size and athleticism (Filipowski instead of Baylor; Kalk or other big on the last draft, or Powel for his athleticism). Brad's drafts and signing of minimum contract players are iffy at best
But, this is what Joe was dealt - and I prefer if we lose by playing the young. Amari for 20 minutes for example. He couldn't be worse than Garza. Play Hugo, Baylor and Walsh over Hauser and PP etc


Are you sure about that? :lol:

Actually, I'd like to see a bit more Amari too. Why not? Well, he's starting G-League tomorrow, so I doubt we'll see him much in Boston, but with the way things are going with the front court maybe he should get a look. Even if he's a bit lost out there at times, it might be an upgrade to our rebounding.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#451 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:55 pm

ThePigeon wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Bill Lumbergh wrote:He'd never admit it, but I honestly think Brad is executing a soft tank. He knows this team can't rebound and he's not going to do a thing to address it. My .02

Been saying that all offseason, Stevens is not going to lift a finger to help this team. What you see is what you get. Celtics management is not trying to win.

People are going to have to deal with it



I have no faith in Brad's drafting, even if we get a top 3 pick
He will get the bust of the draft, or trade for a young that didn't play and 2 second round picks in the future
Too smart for all of us

I had all the trust in Danny with a top 10 pick, I'll tell ya that
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#452 » by Bill Lumbergh » Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:59 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:
ThePigeon wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Been saying that all offseason, Stevens is not going to lift a finger to help this team. What you see is what you get. Celtics management is not trying to win.

People are going to have to deal with it



I have no faith in Brad's drafting, even if we get a top 3 pick
He will get the bust of the draft, or trade for a young that didn't play and 2 second round picks in the future
Too smart for all of us

I had all the trust in Danny with a top 10 pick, I'll tell ya that

He had 4 cracks at it and came away with Ray Allen, Marcus, Jaylen and Jayson. Not half bad.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#453 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Oct 26, 2025 11:22 pm

Bill Lumbergh wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:
ThePigeon wrote:

I have no faith in Brad's drafting, even if we get a top 3 pick
He will get the bust of the draft, or trade for a young that didn't play and 2 second round picks in the future
Too smart for all of us

I had all the trust in Danny with a top 10 pick, I'll tell ya that

He had 4 cracks at it and came away with Ray Allen, Marcus, Jaylen and Jayson. Not half bad.


WOW!!!
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#454 » by Hal14 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:43 am

31to6 wrote:This Pistons team isn't bad.
Not good yet, but not bad.
5th in the East

I got them 4th in the east but certainly won't argue if someone has them 5th.

I've got Cavs, then knicks, then magic, pistons, Hawks.

With better health, pistons could have knocked off the knicks in the 1st round last season. They're a solid team. With a few players who are very young so still on that upward trajectory..
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#455 » by Red2 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:54 am

Neemy didn’t exactly wow on the boards. We need rebounding help
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#456 » by Red2 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:55 am

Yes, brad has not drafted well and has ignored major needs such as centers and rebounders
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Post#457 » by bigboi » Mon Oct 27, 2025 2:06 am

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bigboi wrote:We can put to rest that bulls__ of Derrick White being some elite player. I told you all this before, the only reason any of these players looked good is due to the Brown/Tatum combo which hid their flaws. Derrick White is back to who he was before the Celtics, inefficient Chuck. Now when Tatum comes back next year and Celtics are contending, we can drop the “Tatum has the best supporting cast bs”. I can’t even imagine what Tatum would do with Bron and Austin Reaves as his cast. Surely make it out the first round. This team goes wherever Tatum and Brown go, simple as that. Every single other person on the roster is replaceable

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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#458 » by Parliament10 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 2:21 am

bigboi wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
bigboi wrote:We can put to rest that bulls__ of Derrick White being some elite player. I told you all this before, the only reason any of these players looked good is due to the Brown/Tatum combo which hid their flaws. Derrick White is back to who he was before the Celtics, inefficient Chuck. Now when Tatum comes back next year and Celtics are contending, we can drop the “Tatum has the best supporting cast bs”. I can’t even imagine what Tatum would do with Bron and Austin Reaves as his cast. Surely make it out the first round. This team goes wherever Tatum and Brown go, simple as that. Every single other person on the roster is replaceable

Obviously you hate Derrick White.
It's might be really bad for you, when he becomes an All-Star.


I love Derrick White. Great moments on the team but I recognize reality. It’s the same story with Marcus Smart. These dudes are not that good outside of Boston’s system

Fair enough.

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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Pistons – 3:30PM, Sun, Oct. 26, 2025 

Post#459 » by Red2 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:40 am

Hauser has to take the layup
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Post#460 » by Red2 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:46 am

Where’s hugo
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