Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves?

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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#81 » by Mavrelous » Tue Oct 28, 2025 9:04 am

DaddyCool19 wrote:So any guesses how much he could command per year in FA?

Last year I thought he'd get 125/5, he's outplaying that comfortabely.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#82 » by doogie_hauser » Tue Oct 28, 2025 10:16 am

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Hate is a bit strong. I think he's finding it hard to shake the undrafted tag in some people's eyes.


Its definitely not that, it's A He often plays for and gets awarded for foul baiting/three throws and B He plays for The Lakers and many LAL fans often talk him up as a legit 3rd potential star option for Luka and Lebron.

The kid had a great game tonight, props to him, yet the Lakers still lost to a team projected to be less talented then them (even without Luka and Lebron)

For me (and i haven't seen the Lakers this season) it's how many calls he gets from the refs and the lack of defensive effort which annoys me about Reaves, which ties into the preferential treatment Lakers get from the refs. (Which isn't AR's fault i should add)



Blazers are not less talented than Lakers without Luka and LeBron...


I'd order the players on talent like this:

Reaves
Deni
Jrue
Clingan
Sharpe
Camara
Grant
Rui
Ayton
Vando
LaRavia
Knecht
Yang
Wesley
Murray

Blazers have 6 players better than Rui, who is Lakers 2nd best player out there


I respect your opinion and analytical thinking, however I must respectfully disagree on you ranking Reaves ahead of Deni Avdija

Deni has been underrated in this league (for a few years now) and offers more on both ends than AR.


Austin Reaves is also 27, Deni 24.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#83 » by zimpy27 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 10:23 am

doogie_hauser wrote:
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Its definitely not that, it's A He often plays for and gets awarded for foul baiting/three throws and B He plays for The Lakers and many LAL fans often talk him up as a legit 3rd potential star option for Luka and Lebron.

The kid had a great game tonight, props to him, yet the Lakers still lost to a team projected to be less talented then them (even without Luka and Lebron)

For me (and i haven't seen the Lakers this season) it's how many calls he gets from the refs and the lack of defensive effort which annoys me about Reaves, which ties into the preferential treatment Lakers get from the refs. (Which isn't AR's fault i should add)



Blazers are not less talented than Lakers without Luka and LeBron...


I'd order the players on talent like this:

Reaves
Deni
Jrue
Clingan
Sharpe
Camara
Grant
Rui
Ayton
Vando
LaRavia
Knecht
Yang
Wesley
Murray

Blazers have 6 players better than Rui, who is Lakers 2nd best player out there


I respect your opinion and analytical thinking, however I must respectfully disagree on you ranking Reaves ahead of Deni Avdija

Deni has been underrated in this league (for a few years now) and offers more on both ends than AR.


Austin Reaves is also 27, Deni 24.


TBH I had Deni and Reaves close to par. I don't mind if you have Deni above.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#84 » by cupcakesnake » Tue Oct 28, 2025 11:46 am

zimpy27 wrote:
doogie_hauser wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:

Blazers are not less talented than Lakers without Luka and LeBron...


I'd order the players on talent like this:

Reaves
Deni
Jrue
Clingan
Sharpe
Camara
Grant
Rui
Ayton
Vando
LaRavia
Knecht
Yang
Wesley
Murray

Blazers have 6 players better than Rui, who is Lakers 2nd best player out there


I respect your opinion and analytical thinking, however I must respectfully disagree on you ranking Reaves ahead of Deni Avdija

Deni has been underrated in this league (for a few years now) and offers more on both ends than AR.


Austin Reaves is also 27, Deni 24.


TBH I had Deni and Reaves close to par. I don't mind if you have Deni above.


Austin is a more proven, polished scorer. Deni has to sustain his hot start before we entertain the idea of him being on Reaves' level offensively.
On the other end though, the gap is bigger. Deni is a ferocious man-to-man defender with good versatility, size, and strength. Austin gives a good effort but he's slow enough at his size to be a liability.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#85 » by sisibilio » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:02 pm

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Reaves for Thybulle maybe FRP might be needed, but Lakers wouldn't do it for Thybulle? expiring for expirings +FRP?

Maybe Reaves/Rui/FRP for Thybulle/RW Lakers take risk with RW injury history? .

Signed me on any. I might add a protected 2nd to sweeten the deal for the Lakers
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#86 » by zimpy27 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:30 pm

cupcakesnake wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
doogie_hauser wrote:
I respect your opinion and analytical thinking, however I must respectfully disagree on you ranking Reaves ahead of Deni Avdija

Deni has been underrated in this league (for a few years now) and offers more on both ends than AR.


Austin Reaves is also 27, Deni 24.


TBH I had Deni and Reaves close to par. I don't mind if you have Deni above.


Austin is a more proven, polished scorer. Deni has to sustain his hot start before we entertain the idea of him being on Reaves' level offensively.
On the other end though, the gap is bigger. Deni is a ferocious man-to-man defender with good versatility, size, and strength. Austin gives a good effort but he's slow enough at his size to be a liability.


Yeah that is how I'd see it. Only Reaves playoffs performance gives him an edge to me.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#87 » by -HB- » Tue Oct 28, 2025 3:41 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
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TBH I had Deni and Reaves close to par. I don't mind if you have Deni above.


Austin is a more proven, polished scorer. Deni has to sustain his hot start before we entertain the idea of him being on Reaves' level offensively.
On the other end though, the gap is bigger. Deni is a ferocious man-to-man defender with good versatility, size, and strength. Austin gives a good effort but he's slow enough at his size to be a liability.


Yeah that is how I'd see it. Reaves playoffs performance gives him an edge IMO


But would he garner the FTs on another team IDK
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#88 » by oversteerdawg » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:50 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
HardenGoat wrote:Reaves could average 30 ppg with 8 assists and still be hated.


Hate is a bit strong. I think he's finding it hard to shake the Lakers tag in some people's eyes.


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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#89 » by sisibilio » Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:35 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
DaddyCool19 wrote:So any guesses how much he could command per year in FA?

Last year I thought he'd get 125/5, he's outplaying that comfortabely.

200/5 would be a bargain.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#90 » by JRoy » Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:42 pm

sisibilio wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:
Reaves for Thybulle maybe FRP might be needed, but Lakers wouldn't do it for Thybulle? expiring for expirings +FRP?

Maybe Reaves/Rui/FRP for Thybulle/RW Lakers take risk with RW injury history? .

Signed me on any. I might add a protected 2nd to sweeten the deal for the Lakers


Not interested in helping LAL.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#91 » by SlimShady83 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:46 pm

JRoy wrote:
sisibilio wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:
Reaves for Thybulle maybe FRP might be needed, but Lakers wouldn't do it for Thybulle? expiring for expirings +FRP?

Maybe Reaves/Rui/FRP for Thybulle/RW Lakers take risk with RW injury history? .

Signed me on any. I might add a protected 2nd to sweeten the deal for the Lakers


Not interested in helping LAL.

Damn I don't even remember this proposal, what was I thinking? Lol. Ain't no way Lakers doing that either, I must of been drunk when I said that lol
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#92 » by JB2 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:51 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
sisibilio wrote:Signed me on any. I might add a protected 2nd to sweeten the deal for the Lakers


Not interested in helping LAL.

Damn I don't even remember this proposal, what was I thinking? Lol. Ain't no way Lakers doing that either, I must of been drunk when I said that lol



Don't worry - there's someone more hammered than you posting they wouldn't want to help LA out with that trade
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#93 » by SlimShady83 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:54 pm

JB2 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
Not interested in helping LAL.

Damn I don't even remember this proposal, what was I thinking? Lol. Ain't no way Lakers doing that either, I must of been drunk when I said that lol



Don't worry - there's someone more hammered than you posting they wouldn't want to help LA out with that trade

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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#94 » by Clyde Frazier » Tue Oct 28, 2025 7:07 pm

Life is crazy. Wasn't a top 100 recruit out of high school. Had a solid senior year at Oklahoma: 18.3 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 4.6 APG, .9 SPG on 44/30/86 splits. He was efficient inside the arc and got to the line enough though to still score at 57.9% TS. Probably should’ve been drafted despite the lack of 3PT shooting. And yet here we are, killing the league in year 5. Love these success stories.
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Post#95 » by Anderson Hunt » Tue Oct 28, 2025 7:16 pm

Clyde Frazier wrote:Life is crazy. Wasn't a top 100 recruit out of high school. Had a solid senior year at Oklahoma: 18.3 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 4.6 APG, .9 SPG on 44/30/86 splits. He was efficient inside the arc and got to the line enough though to still score at 57.9% TS. Probably should’ve been drafted despite the lack of 3PT shooting. And yet here we are, killing the league in year 5. Love these success stories.

Seniors are practically ignored. NBA scouts treat seniors like red pill dudes treat beautiful women who are single at 35 -- they think something must be wrong with you, otherwise you wouldn't be available this late in "the game".
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#96 » by MrGoat » Tue Oct 28, 2025 7:38 pm

Anderson Hunt wrote:
Clyde Frazier wrote:Life is crazy. Wasn't a top 100 recruit out of high school. Had a solid senior year at Oklahoma: 18.3 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 4.6 APG, .9 SPG on 44/30/86 splits. He was efficient inside the arc and got to the line enough though to still score at 57.9% TS. Probably should’ve been drafted despite the lack of 3PT shooting. And yet here we are, killing the league in year 5. Love these success stories.

Seniors are practically ignored. NBA scouts treat seniors like red pill dudes treat beautiful women who are single at 35 -- they think something must be wrong with you, otherwise you wouldn't be available this late in "the game".

I've always said the key to finding good players in the later parts of the draft is to go after the older players instead of the one and dones. Charlotte looks like they might have struck second round gold already with Ryan Kalkbrenner this year. Toumani Camara is another one, Andrew Nembhard, Dillon Brooks, Malcolm Brogdon, Norman Powell, all second rounders past their 21st birthday at least. Mavs found Jalen Brunson, Dorian Finney Smith, and Jae Crowder all in the second round that way too
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#97 » by Anderson Hunt » Tue Oct 28, 2025 8:28 pm

MrGoat wrote:
Anderson Hunt wrote:
Clyde Frazier wrote:Life is crazy. Wasn't a top 100 recruit out of high school. Had a solid senior year at Oklahoma: 18.3 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 4.6 APG, .9 SPG on 44/30/86 splits. He was efficient inside the arc and got to the line enough though to still score at 57.9% TS. Probably should’ve been drafted despite the lack of 3PT shooting. And yet here we are, killing the league in year 5. Love these success stories.

Seniors are practically ignored. NBA scouts treat seniors like red pill dudes treat beautiful women who are single at 35 -- they think something must be wrong with you, otherwise you wouldn't be available this late in "the game".

I've always said the key to finding good players in the later parts of the draft is to go after the older players instead of the one and dones. Charlotte looks like they might have struck second round gold already with Ryan Kalkbrenner this year. Toumani Camara is another one, Andrew Nembhard, Dillon Brooks, Malcolm Brogdon, Norman Powell, all second rounders past their 21st birthday at least. Mavs found Jalen Brunson, Dorian Finney Smith, and Jae Crowder all in the second round that way too

The NBA should mandate four years removed from high school before being drafted. It would solve many problems all at once:
1. College basketball would become must-see television and when college basketball is popular, the NBA will become more popular.
2. NBA executives would be able to select more proven talent.
3. The league would mature.
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Re: Why the Lakers didn't trade Reaves? 

Post#98 » by Big_Aristotle » Yesterday 2:37 pm

Reaves is averaging 35.8 pts, 6.8 reb, 8.5 ast and consistently got better every year of his career. Still many keyboard warriors here can't write his name properly and value random unproven players above him. :crazy:
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Post#99 » by juanc » Yesterday 3:50 pm

Reaves is on that Jalen Brunson trajectory
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