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World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM

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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#101 » by JaysRule25 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:15 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
JaysRule15 wrote:If Barger was hitting in Varsho's place yesterday we're likely world series champs today. Ah well, better late than never to make the adjustment.

And if Varsho didn’t hit a 2 run shot off Snell while he was completely dominating game 1, maybe we get swept

Two can play at that nonsense what if game


I like Varsho as much as anyone, but he's been horrible in the world series. And has continuously messed up RISP moments. Yesterday alone Varsho stranded like 5 runners. You can't deny that Barger is the better bat right now. There's no shame in making an adjustment especially in a winner take all scenario.

Roberts moved an actual MVP in Betts down the lineup yesterday because we kept walking Ohtani to get to Betts. And it immediately paid off with Smith getting a hit.

I'd much rather the hotter bat in Barger gets to hit if they start walking Vlad and we have runners on base.

Varsho is good for power and strikeouts. He can hit homers just fine from the bottom of the order. And if he gets out, at least it's less likely he's costing the team in RISP.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#102 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:15 pm

pingpongrac wrote:
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JaysRule15 wrote:If Barger was hitting in Varsho's place yesterday we're likely world series champs today. Ah well, better late than never to make the adjustment.

And if Varsho didn’t hit a 2 run shot off Snell while he was completely dominating game 1, maybe we get swept

Two can play at that nonsense what if game


Awfully ironic that Barger produced more in that first game off of the bench as a late-inning PH than Varsho has in the entire World Series. :lol:

Now that you mention it there’s a decent argument Varsho has the biggest HR in the entire World Series for the Jays

How do we know Snell doesn’t continue to completely dominate that game and the Dodgers carry that momentum on for the next 3?

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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#103 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:17 pm

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JaysRule15 wrote:If Barger was hitting in Varsho's place yesterday we're likely world series champs today. Ah well, better late than never to make the adjustment.

And if Varsho didn’t hit a 2 run shot off Snell while he was completely dominating game 1, maybe we get swept

Two can play at that nonsense what if game


I like Varsho as much as anyone, but he's been horrible in the world series. And has continuously messed up RISP moments. Yesterday alone Varsho stranded like 5 runners. You can't deny that Barger is the better bat right now. There's no shame in making an adjustment especially in a winner take all scenario.

Roberts moved an actual MVP in Betts down the lineup yesterday because we kept walking Ohtani to get to Betts. And it immediately paid off with Smith getting a hit.

I'd much rather the hotter bat in Barger gets to hit if they start walking Vlad and we have runners on base.

Varsho is good for power and strikeouts. He can hit homers just fine from the bottom of the order. And if he gets out, at least it's less likely he's costing the team in RISP.

lol Roberts moved Mookie down one to the cleanup spot after a week of struggles and he got the biggest hit in the WS to this point, his talent won out

How do you not see that this is actually a counter point to your argument
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#104 » by JaysRule25 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:21 pm

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JaysRule15 wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:And if Varsho didn’t hit a 2 run shot off Snell while he was completely dominating game 1, maybe we get swept

Two can play at that nonsense what if game


I like Varsho as much as anyone, but he's been horrible in the world series. And has continuously messed up RISP moments. Yesterday alone Varsho stranded like 5 runners. You can't deny that Barger is the better bat right now. There's no shame in making an adjustment especially in a winner take all scenario.

Roberts moved an actual MVP in Betts down the lineup yesterday because we kept walking Ohtani to get to Betts. And it immediately paid off with Smith getting a hit.

I'd much rather the hotter bat in Barger gets to hit if they start walking Vlad and we have runners on base.

Varsho is good for power and strikeouts. He can hit homers just fine from the bottom of the order. And if he gets out, at least it's less likely he's costing the team in RISP.

lol Roberts moved Mookie down one to the cleanup spot after a week of struggles and he got the biggest hit in the WS to this point

How do you not see that this is actually a counter point to your argument


Nope. He moved Betts to #3 in game 5 and then to #4 in game 6. Betts started the series batting right behind Ohtani but after we continuously pitched around Ohtani to get to Betts, Roberts got wise and put Smith and Freeman between Ohtani and Betts.

And yes that's exactly my point. Move Varsho down where he doesn't have the same pressure to keep coming up with runners on base and striking out. You realize that our lineup's strength this season is grinding at-bats and making contact right? Varsho is the one guy in the lineup completely counter to that approach. But he hits homers and those are valuable. He's absolutely good to have in the lineup. But you can't argue in good faith that Barger isn't the better bat lately and should be getting those RISP opportunities over Varsho.

Clearly Schneider can't argue either considering he made the change today, so maybe the front office does have common sense.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#105 » by LLJ » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:22 pm

Varsho tends to get big hits whenever fans start grumbling about him. So naturally I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a 2-3 run HR tonight.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#106 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:23 pm

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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#107 » by pingpongrac » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:24 pm

LLJ wrote:Varsho tends to get big hits whenever fans start grumbling about him. So naturally I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a 2-3 run HR tonight.


Hopefully. He has been a complete non-factor at the plate in 75% of our postseason games, but his hits have actually been massive whenever he comes through.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#108 » by JaysRule25 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:26 pm

LLJ wrote:Varsho tends to get big hits whenever fans start grumbling about him. So naturally I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a 2-3 run HR tonight.


100%. I think he's great at ambushing a pitch and bringing that power. But he's just struggling bad right now.

I watched his at-bats yesterday again. He missed so many hittable pitches. I do think if Barger got those Sasaki pitches in the 8th inning, he would've done damage with runners on base. Instead we have Barger coming in with empty bases.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#109 » by Duffman100 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:26 pm

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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#110 » by SharoneWright » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:28 pm

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this great season and focus on the experience rather than the outcome.


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Post#111 » by NinjaBro » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:28 pm

I'm still upset that Gaus threw 3 straight fastballs to dookie. Sure dookie was struggling but that was so disrespectful considering he's a former MVP and at any point can break out of the slump. Couldn't have happened in a worst time and now he has confidence going into the game tonight. Smh
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#112 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:28 pm

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Randle McMurphy wrote:
JaysRule15 wrote:
I like Varsho as much as anyone, but he's been horrible in the world series. And has continuously messed up RISP moments. Yesterday alone Varsho stranded like 5 runners. You can't deny that Barger is the better bat right now. There's no shame in making an adjustment especially in a winner take all scenario.

Roberts moved an actual MVP in Betts down the lineup yesterday because we kept walking Ohtani to get to Betts. And it immediately paid off with Smith getting a hit.

I'd much rather the hotter bat in Barger gets to hit if they start walking Vlad and we have runners on base.

Varsho is good for power and strikeouts. He can hit homers just fine from the bottom of the order. And if he gets out, at least it's less likely he's costing the team in RISP.

lol Roberts moved Mookie down one to the cleanup spot after a week of struggles and he got the biggest hit in the WS to this point

How do you not see that this is actually a counter point to your argument


Nope. He moved Betts to #3 in game 5 and then to #4 in game 6. Betts started the series batting right behind Ohtani but after we continuously pitched around Ohtani to get to Betts, Roberts got wise and put Smith and Freeman between Ohtani and Betts.

And yes that's exactly my point. Move Varsho down where he doesn't have the same pressure to keep coming up with runners on base and striking out. You realize that our lineup's strength this season is grinding at-bats and making contact right? Varsho is the one guy in the lineup completely counter to that approach. But he hits homers and those are valuable. He's absolutely good to have in the lineup. But you can't argue in good faith that Barger isn't the better bat lately and should be getting those RISP opportunities over Varsho.

Clearly Schneider can't argue either considering he made the change today, so maybe the front office does have common sense.

Nah, he left Betts in a huge cleanup spot in the order (despite the Dodgers’ fans similarly crying for him to be moved to 7/8) and he responded with the biggest hit of the series. It’s a direct counter point to your argument

And I can’t say I get all the whining about Varsho/lineup construction when we have a much worse hitter than him still batting 2 in between our two best hitters lol
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#113 » by Potential » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:30 pm

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Potential wrote:I am scared. This is horrible. But this must be so amazing as a non-fan


I've made peace with the possibility of losing. Toronto has actually been pretty good in Finals series across various sports the past few decades (Jays 92-93, Raps 2019)--you eventually have to lose a few sometime. And as I've said, the vision of Ed Rogers holding up the trophy does make me grimace a bit so if you wanna be petty there's that silver lining if we lose.

That being said, I do also hate the idea of the Dodgers celebrating in the Skydome. Then again, it's not Skydome anymore, it's "Rogers Centre" anyway.

I do think the pressure is on the Dodgers now though. Yesterday everyone was expecting the Jays to make the one big play to bring it home, but the players couldn't handle the pressure whenever runners were in scoring position. Now after the Jays blundering Game 6, most people probably expect the Dodgers to win the series. So hopefully now the Jays can relax a bit and play their game.


Yeah im looking at it as the pressure is 100% on the Dodgers. But I did a happiness hedge bet if the Dodgers win so at least I can walk away with something
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Post#114 » by NinjaBro » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:32 pm

All you guys hedging your bets is such weak sauce smh. Have some guts and show some faith in your team.

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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#115 » by JCP11 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:34 pm

Potential wrote:I am scared. This is horrible. But this must be so amazing as a non-fan

Look at it this way, this is the furthest a team can get in its journey. They played all the best players, many future all of Famers and they are one win away. Win or lose I'm proud of this team. I might be the minority but I don't watch the Jays just to see them win it all, I love seeing my team grow, fight, overcome challenges, fail, lose get punched but then get up and respond. I'm happy with how ever this season ends.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#116 » by LLJ » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:34 pm

NinjaBro wrote:All you guys hedging your bets is such weak sauce smh. Have some guts and show some faith in your team.

#Iwantitall


this team always plays best when we doubt them though
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#117 » by ItsDanger » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:35 pm

Jack Morris and Paul Molitor on MLB network now.
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Post#118 » by LLJ » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:42 pm

Query: A WS win today at the cost of no playoffs for the next 5 years. Do you still take?
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#119 » by Potential » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:46 pm

Harold Reynolds live on ctv news lol. I forgive him for the Canadians can't catch comments at least he apologized the next day
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#120 » by Rainman66 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:46 pm

Got my henny bottle am ready for tonight win or lose :waaa: :onfire:
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