Just for fun: What do you do to go all in on this team?

[GoBlue72391]

I've said it before, but Id trade for Lauri for the right price (which is what Duck suggested in his OP).

But Im not sure if Utah would agree to it. They might want more and if so Id turn it down.

Utah would want a 1st for one of their two-way contract guys.

[MGB8]

Dalen Terry + Jevon Carter + two future 2nds (health conditional) for Jonathan Isaac.

Magic have plenty of size with Goga, WCJ, Mo Wagner at C and Banchero, Franz, De Silva and Penda at F. They could use more / better 3 point shooting (Javon Carter) and a flier on Terry for salary match purposes, along with saving a couple million in cap and getting a couple of 2nds.

Bulls take a chance on Isaac who theoretically adds the defense and some 3 pt shooting that would fit best at big, plus more size depth.

[AhUtopian]

How about Dereck Lively ？

I know the health concern , however , he will be closed to unavailable if healthy.



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[DASMACKDOWN]

Trade for Daniel Gafford.

I don't think there is a home run get. Even in free agency next year. I think we work on the smaller margins to get us there.

[dpucane]

I think going all in on this team is a mistake, but here's a framework for an ultimate silly all-in chaos deal:

Bulls get:
Ja Morant
Jaren Jackson Jr

Grizzlies get:
Coby
Collins
Huerter
Smith
Phillips
26 1st
27 swap
28 1st
29 swap
30 1st
31 swap

You can't do this til 1/15 and Ja will have to get more toxic to make this possible, and you may need more draft capital or Essengue.

You're essentially betting on Billy Bagger Vance-ing Ja, in which case you could own the East and the picks are whatever.

Again, probably a bad idea, but this is as ALL-IN as it gets

[sco]

I've said it before, but Id trade for Lauri for the right price (which is what Duck suggested in his OP).

But Im not sure if Utah would agree to it. They might want more and if so Id turn it down.

Utah would want a 1st for one of their two-way contract guys.

My bet is that Utah would trade Lauri for our unprotected '26 1st and POR 1st plus expirings. I think Lauri could work if we also traded Coby. IMO, they wouldn't work well together. If we also got a defensive C, we could roll with Giddey/Okoro/Matas/Lauri/C. That said, we'd likely end up with Giddey/Coby/Matas/Lauri/Vuc which would be perhaps the worst defensive line-up in the NBA with too many guys needing shots.

[Hangtime84]

Dalen Terry + Jevon Carter + two future 2nds (health conditional) for Jonathan Isaac.

Magic have plenty of size with Goga, WCJ, Mo Wagner at C and Banchero, Franz, De Silva and Penda at F. They could use more / better 3 point shooting (Javon Carter) and a flier on Terry for salary match purposes, along with saving a couple million in cap and getting a couple of 2nds.

Bulls take a chance on Isaac who theoretically adds the defense and some 3 pt shooting that would fit best at big, plus more size depth.

Issac while available hasn’t looked good at all this season. No need to attach picks.

[Hangtime84]

Off season contract offers to Austin Reaves and John Collins. trade tre jones for cap space. Resign Ayo and Coby White, Kevin, Collins

[MGB8]

Dalen Terry + Jevon Carter + two future 2nds (health conditional) for Jonathan Isaac.

Magic have plenty of size with Goga, WCJ, Mo Wagner at C and Banchero, Franz, De Silva and Penda at F. They could use more / better 3 point shooting (Javon Carter) and a flier on Terry for salary match purposes, along with saving a couple million in cap and getting a couple of 2nds.

Bulls take a chance on Isaac who theoretically adds the defense and some 3 pt shooting that would fit best at big, plus more size depth.

Issac while available hasn’t looked good at all this season. No need to attach picks.

Fair. And I don’t know if the CBA allows conditional picks in trades outside of protections.

[burlydee]

The Bulls biggest weaknesses in my opinion are -

1. Not having a clear tier 1 or 2 superstar
2. Not being physical enough on the interior and at the forward spot in particular.

Superstars who are, or could become, available over next few months: Morant, Booker, Zion, Embiid, Siakam (?), Lavine (j/k)

Of this list, I think SIakam would be the perfect for the Bulls but is likely unavaiable. Of the other guys, I'd prefer Booker, but I'm not sure I want to pay his salary. But just for fun, something like PWill, Coby, Collins and a couple 1st at least starts the conversation. I don't think Morant and Giddey are good fits b/c of shooting and defense, and I'm sticking with Giddey, who just might be flat out better than Morant at this point.

A less ambitious trade would be turning the combo of PWill, Terry, Phillips, Jevon Carter and Collins (I think Smith has wally-pipped him, the shootings too important) into a forward rotation piece who does all the same things PWill does, but consistently and better. Those guys aren't generally easy to get but I wonder if you could get a PJ Washington, Tari Eason, or Jeremy Sochan. Those are the kind of guy they need to round out the roster who won't dramatically reshape it.

[Senor Chang]

Vuc and Noa plus whatever pick combination we might need to include (2026 bulls pick, Portland pick, future picks, whatever.) for JJJ and scottie pippen jr. works on the trade checker. Memphis can rebuild with young talent and bulls get their man in the middle of the future.


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[jnrjr79]

The Bulls biggest weaknesses in my opinion are -

1. Not having a clear tier 1 or 2 superstar
2. Not being physical enough on the interior and at the forward spot in particular.

Superstars who are, or could become, available over next few months: Morant, Booker, Zion, Embiid, Siakam (?), Lavine (j/k)

Of this list, I think SIakam would be the perfect for the Bulls but is likely unavaiable. Of the other guys, I'd prefer Booker, but I'm not sure I want to pay his salary. But just for fun, something like PWill, Coby, Collins and a couple 1st at least starts the conversation. I don't think Morant and Giddey are good fits b/c of shooting and defense, and I'm sticking with Giddey, who just might be flat out better than Morant at this point.

A less ambitious trade would be turning the combo of PWill, Terry, Phillips, Jevon Carter and Collins (I think Smith has wally-pipped him, the shootings too important) into a forward rotation piece who does all the same things PWill does, but consistently and better. Those guys aren't generally easy to get but I wonder if you could get a PJ Washington, Tari Eason, or Jeremy Sochan. Those are the kind of guy they need to round out the roster who won't dramatically reshape it.

I don't think a single one of the players listed there is a superstar, other than perhaps Booker. And I think pretty clearly all of them, other than Booker, are worse players than Josh Giddey if this version of him is actually real.

Embiid was a superstar once, and Zion could be one in theory, but injuries make them both presently non-superstars.

[Dan Z]

I've said it before, but Id trade for Lauri for the right price (which is what Duck suggested in his OP).

But Im not sure if Utah would agree to it. They might want more and if so Id turn it down.

Utah would want a 1st for one of their two-way contract guys.

My bet is that Utah would trade Lauri for our unprotected '26 1st and POR 1st plus expirings. I think Lauri could work if we also traded Coby. IMO, they wouldn't work well together. If we also got a defensive C, we could roll with Giddey/Okoro/Matas/Lauri/C. That said, we'd likely end up with Giddey/Coby/Matas/Lauri/Vuc which would be perhaps the worst defensive line-up in the NBA with too many guys needing shots.

I think Coby would work fine with Markkanen. Giddey would have two very good three point shooters to pass to.

It's Vucevic that I don't think works well with Lauri. Lauri is mobile for his size, but not a great defender. Vucevic isn't mobile in the same way and is also not a great defender. Vuc won't be able to cover for Markkanen defensively and vise versa.

[sco]

The Bulls biggest weaknesses in my opinion are -

1. Not having a clear tier 1 or 2 superstar
2. Not being physical enough on the interior and at the forward spot in particular.

Superstars who are, or could become, available over next few months: Morant, Booker, Zion, Embiid, Siakam (?), Lavine (j/k)

Of this list, I think SIakam would be the perfect for the Bulls but is likely unavaiable. Of the other guys, I'd prefer Booker, but I'm not sure I want to pay his salary. But just for fun, something like PWill, Coby, Collins and a couple 1st at least starts the conversation. I don't think Morant and Giddey are good fits b/c of shooting and defense, and I'm sticking with Giddey, who just might be flat out better than Morant at this point.

A less ambitious trade would be turning the combo of PWill, Terry, Phillips, Jevon Carter and Collins (I think Smith has wally-pipped him, the shootings too important) into a forward rotation piece who does all the same things PWill does, but consistently and better. Those guys aren't generally easy to get but I wonder if you could get a PJ Washington, Tari Eason, or Jeremy Sochan. Those are the kind of guy they need to round out the roster who won't dramatically reshape it.

I don't think a single one of the players listed there is a superstar, other than perhaps Booker. And I think pretty clearly all of them, other than Booker, are worse players than Josh Giddey if this version of him is actually real.

Embiid was a superstar once, and Zion could be one in theory, but injuries make them both presently non-superstars.

If somehow we were able to nab Booker and Hartenstein this offseason, I think we are on the cusp of contention (if we have the 2025 version of Giddey and a better version of Matas).

[MissileMike]

I agree with others here that Hartenstein in the offseason makes the most sense, if okc lets him go and the numbers work. Otherwise try to draft or bargain shop for a defensive big.

[Dan Z]

The Bulls biggest weaknesses in my opinion are -

1. Not having a clear tier 1 or 2 superstar
2. Not being physical enough on the interior and at the forward spot in particular.

Superstars who are, or could become, available over next few months: Morant, Booker, Zion, Embiid, Siakam (?), Lavine (j/k)

Of this list, I think SIakam would be the perfect for the Bulls but is likely unavaiable. Of the other guys, I'd prefer Booker, but I'm not sure I want to pay his salary. But just for fun, something like PWill, Coby, Collins and a couple 1st at least starts the conversation. I don't think Morant and Giddey are good fits b/c of shooting and defense, and I'm sticking with Giddey, who just might be flat out better than Morant at this point.

A less ambitious trade would be turning the combo of PWill, Terry, Phillips, Jevon Carter and Collins (I think Smith has wally-pipped him, the shootings too important) into a forward rotation piece who does all the same things PWill does, but consistently and better. Those guys aren't generally easy to get but I wonder if you could get a PJ Washington, Tari Eason, or Jeremy Sochan. Those are the kind of guy they need to round out the roster who won't dramatically reshape it.

I don't think a single one of the players listed there is a superstar, other than perhaps Booker. And I think pretty clearly all of them, other than Booker, are worse players than Josh Giddey if this version of him is actually real.

Embiid was a superstar once, and Zion could be one in theory, but injuries make them both presently non-superstars.

If somehow we were able to nab Booker and Hartenstein this offseason, I think we are on the cusp of contention (if we have the 2025 version of Giddey and a better version of Matas).

Booker would cost too much, and after that the team won't have money to sign Hartenstein.

[Dan Z]

I agree with others here that Hartenstein in the offseason makes the most sense, if okc lets him go and the numbers work. Otherwise try to draft or bargain shop for a defensive big.

How much cap space will the Bulls have this off season?

My guess is they won't have enough to get Hartenstein (and that's only if OKC lets him go), so draft or bargain shop defensive big seem like the realistic option.

[WindyCityBorn]

I think going all in on this team is a mistake, but here's a framework for an ultimate silly all-in chaos deal:

Bulls get:
Ja Morant
Jaren Jackson Jr

Grizzlies get:
Coby
Collins
Huerter
Smith
Phillips
26 1st
27 swap
28 1st
29 swap
30 1st
31 swap

You can't do this til 1/15 and Ja will have to get more toxic to make this possible, and you may need more draft capital.

You're essentially betting on Billy Bagger Vance-ing Ja, in which case you could own the East and the picks are whatever.

Again, probably a bad idea, but this is as ALL-IN as it gets

It is a bad idea. I don’t see Morant and Giddey as a good backcourt pairing. And talk about baggage. I wouldn’t want Morant if Giddey wasn’t balling.

[WindyCityBorn]

I agree with others here that Hartenstein in the offseason makes the most sense, if okc lets him go and the numbers work. Otherwise try to draft or bargain shop for a defensive big.

How much cap space will the Bulls have this off season?

My guess is they won't have enough to get Hartenstein (and that's only if OKC lets him go), so draft or bargain shop defensive big seem like the realistic option.

We will have a ridiculous amount of cap space. Vuc, Coby, Ayo, Heurter, Terry and Collins are all going to be coming off the books if we choose to let them walk.

[MissileMike]

I agree with others here that Hartenstein in the offseason makes the most sense, if okc lets him go and the numbers work. Otherwise try to draft or bargain shop for a defensive big.

How much cap space will the Bulls have this off season?

My guess is they won't have enough to get Hartenstein (and that's only if OKC lets him go), so draft or bargain shop defensive big seem like the realistic option.

A lot before signing our own free agents. Amost 90 million iirc. But coby, ayo, vuc are all free agents.