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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#261 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 8, 2025 8:46 am

ItsDanger wrote:Blue Jays had numerous chances to win the series. Dodgers were fortunate it wasn't over in 5 games. You can't make firm conclusions on solo homers. Seattle hit solo homers and lost. Wonder what they think about that theory?

That they should have done it at more important times
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#262 » by JN » Sat Nov 8, 2025 1:47 pm

A small move I think we are going to need to make is getting an additional lefty out of the pen. Middle of the season in 2025, it looked like we had a potential really good one for the next few years in Brendan Little, but it appears his pitching approach has been figured out and he may need to re-invent himself in the minors.

I saw this site that had the top 100 free agents.
https://www.nbcsports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/mlb-free-agent-rankings-2025-26-kyle-tucker-dylan-cease-bo-bichette-alex-bregman-headline-top-100-list

It's a weak class for lefty relievers - these are the only 3 that are in his top 100, and none are great. I'd probably go for one in the discount bin.

Top 100
Steven Matz 2/17
Drew Pomeranz 1/10
Gregory Soto 1/6

The Rest - 3 to 4.5 million: Danny Coulombe, Taylor Rogers, Wandy Peralta, Jusrin Wilson, Hoby Milner, Andrew Chafin, Tim Hill, Caleb Thielbar, Caleb Ferguson
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#263 » by SharoneWright » Sat Nov 8, 2025 2:31 pm

Is Tiedemann post-TJ still too valuable to relegate/promote to the pen? Cheap/free left-handed firepower.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#264 » by bluerap23 » Sat Nov 8, 2025 2:46 pm

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Replacing Lukes with Kyle Tucker is like the warriors going from Harrison Barnes to KD lmao


That only really happens if Bo leaves, Barger is moved to third and Clement and Gimenez shuffle around. Otherwise our OF would be Varsho, Barger and Santander.


I'm seeing 400m thrown around in rumours for Tucker. At that number I think I'm out. But damn, would be nice problem to have too many guys. Injuries happen and when they don't you can rest guys. Personally, I'd try to move Giminez to clear the salary.

Springer DH
Tucker RF
Vlad 1B
Bo 2B
Barger 3B
Kirk C
Santander LF
Clement SS
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#265 » by Mehar » Sat Nov 8, 2025 6:24 pm

bluerap23 wrote:
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Replacing Lukes with Kyle Tucker is like the warriors going from Harrison Barnes to KD lmao


That only really happens if Bo leaves, Barger is moved to third and Clement and Gimenez shuffle around. Otherwise our OF would be Varsho, Barger and Santander.


I'm seeing 400m thrown around in rumours for Tucker. At that number I think I'm out. But damn, would be nice problem to have too many guys. Injuries happen and when they don't you can rest guys. Personally, I'd try to move Giminez to clear the salary.

Springer DH
Tucker RF
Vlad 1B
Bo 2B
Barger 3B
Kirk C
Santander LF
Clement SS
Varsho CF


I would move Gimenez also, but there is a zero percent chance another team will take that contract (15 million next year, and 23 million for the final three years of his deal). 5th year 2.5 million buy out (86.5 million left owed to him). So, we are stuck with him for the next 4 years. I am not a fan of paying 400 million for Tucker either, with his injury history and the fact that I think he is overrated and not a franchise player. I would prefer Bellinger at 150 million to 175 million instead.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#266 » by s e n s i » Sat Nov 8, 2025 6:56 pm

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but for whatever knee jerk reason people want to move on from Varsho despite that he would’ve had 45+ bombs had he been healthy.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#267 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 8, 2025 7:00 pm

JN wrote:A small move I think we are going to need to make is getting an additional lefty out of the pen. Middle of the season in 2025, it looked like we had a potential really good one for the next few years in Brendan Little, but it appears his pitching approach has been figured out and he may need to re-invent himself in the minors.

I saw this site that had the top 100 free agents.
https://www.nbcsports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/mlb-free-agent-rankings-2025-26-kyle-tucker-dylan-cease-bo-bichette-alex-bregman-headline-top-100-list

It's a weak class for lefty relievers - these are the only 3 that are in his top 100, and none are great. I'd probably go for one in the discount bin.

Top 100
Steven Matz 2/17
Drew Pomeranz 1/10
Gregory Soto 1/6

The Rest - 3 to 4.5 million: Danny Coulombe, Taylor Rogers, Wandy Peralta, Jusrin Wilson, Hoby Milner, Andrew Chafin, Tim Hill, Caleb Thielbar, Caleb Ferguson

Little isn’t going anywhere after the season he just had, he was their most valuable RP
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#268 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 8, 2025 7:04 pm

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but for whatever knee jerk reason people want to move on from Varsho despite that he would’ve had 45+ bombs had he been healthy.

He was one of the most valuable players in the league in 2025 while he was out there, I like to hold onto those players myself
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#269 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 8, 2025 7:05 pm

SharoneWright wrote:Is Tiedemann post-TJ still too valuable to relegate/promote to the pen? Cheap/free left-handed firepower.

That’s where he’s gonna end up inevitably anyway given the injury issues, might as well be now
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#270 » by Michael Bradley » Sat Nov 8, 2025 9:56 pm

SharoneWright wrote:Is Tiedemann post-TJ still too valuable to relegate/promote to the pen? Cheap/free left-handed firepower.


I'd have no issues with Tiedemann being used as a high leverage reliever (even as a closer if performance is there), but I don't think the Jays will give up on him as a starter yet.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#271 » by Asianiac_24 » Sun Nov 9, 2025 1:20 am

If Tucker is going to cost 400 mil, I would pass also. At that price point you’d probably be able to sign Bellinger AND Bo. I’m guessing Bellinger would be like 150mil and Bo 250?
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#272 » by Mr Swagtastic » Sun Nov 9, 2025 1:38 pm

Asianiac_24 wrote:If Tucker is going to cost 400 mil, I would pass also. At that price point you’d probably be able to sign Bellinger AND Bo. I’m guessing Bellinger would be like 150mil and Bo 250?
Bo isn't getting $250 million if he is I'd pass. I think he's in that $160-$$200 million tops range which the $200 is probably from Toronto to overpay to keep him for another WS run.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#273 » by brwnman » Sun Nov 9, 2025 3:06 pm

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but for whatever knee jerk reason people want to move on from Varsho despite that he would’ve had 45+ bombs had he been healthy.



What a hilariously insane assertion.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#274 » by dagger » Sun Nov 9, 2025 3:56 pm

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SharoneWright wrote:Is Tiedemann post-TJ still too valuable to relegate/promote to the pen? Cheap/free left-handed firepower.

That’s where he’s gonna end up inevitably anyway given the injury issues, might as well be now


Some teams start future starters in the pen. Others try to keep them as starters until they fail, then re-make them as relievers. Tiedemann is in a situation where this could go either way. First, he has to re-establish himself as a major league pitcher. Let's see where his velocity is at for, say, 30-40 pitches.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#275 » by Mehar » Sun Nov 9, 2025 7:11 pm

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but for whatever knee jerk reason people want to move on from Varsho despite that he would’ve had 45+ bombs had he been healthy.

He was one of the most valuable players in the league in 2025 while he was out there, I like to hold onto those players myself


Unfortunately not a MVP after Game 2 of the ALDS at the plate, given his horrific hitting numbers against Seattle and LA. He sucked at the plate at the worst possible time. All your hero had to do was hit a SAC FLY with his supposed "power" in the 9th Inning of Game 7, and he would have been worshipped in this town forever. All he had to do was not go for 0 for 9, and leave a record 13 men on base in Games 6 and Game 7.

Varsho has never hit more than 27 home runs in his career (2022 season). 45 home runs is a tall task, given how cold he gets. He will hit a bunch of homers in a two week span, and then all of a sudden you come on this forum and project a 40 home run season for him. That is what happened in May of 2024 also, when you were projecting 40 homers for him in your posts on this forum, but then your hero went cold for weeks and hit only 18 home runs in all of 2024. Projections mean very little with how Cold of a hitter, and streaky of a hitter your Man Crush Varsho gets.

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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#277 » by polo007 » Mon Nov 10, 2025 4:46 pm

At 41, Max Scherzer wants another shot at a World Series: ‘I still can do this’ - The Athletic

“I still can do this,” the 18-year veteran said.

Only 12 pitchers this century have made 30 or more starts in their age-41 seasons or older, led by Jamie Moyer, who did it five times, and Randy Johnson, who did it three times. Scherzer will be considered 41 in 2026; a player’s baseball age is how old he is as of July 1, and Scherzer’s birthday is not until July 27. He last made 30 starts in 2021, and he has managed only 26 combined the past two seasons. But now that he is again a free agent, at least one executive believes he can be a viable starter next season.

“No doubt. No doubt,” the executive said. “He may not get 30 starts. But can he get 20 starts at a mid-3.00 ERA and a mid-3.00 FIP, be a guy who’s going to compete and care about winning? I 100 percent believe that.”

Some in the industry expect Scherzer to land with the San Francisco Giants, reuniting with new manager Tony Vitello, his pitching coach at Missouri in the mid-2000s. A return to Toronto also might be an option. Scherzer, like virtually all of the Blue Jays, speaks with great fondness about the unique bonds the players and their families forged last season.

Scherzer isn’t ready to talk about his wish list. “The World Series is still so fresh in my mind,” he said, “and in my heart, it’s hard to even think about solving free agency.” The biggest thing, he said, is that he no longer has to deal with the right thumb inflammation that surfaced in 2023, making it painful for him to grip the ball and creating other arm problems the past three seasons.

“The way I see it, I’m healthy. I’m going to be able to go into spring training. I’m going to be able to ramp up,” Scherzer said. “I have a track record of being a durable starter. I know how to navigate a season. I know how to navigate starts. I just feel I’m in a much better position to be able to do that now that I have this thumb issue completely resolved.”
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#278 » by Randle McMurphy » Mon Nov 10, 2025 4:52 pm

The thumb issue is completely resolved, is it? We'll see about that in March.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#279 » by Madvillainy2004 » Mon Nov 10, 2025 5:30 pm

There is some red flags with Tucker (mostly his bat speed) but Popkins did see like half our best guys increase their bat speed this year, mainly Springer and Kirk. But he really fits what were trying to do and hes just a flat out elite hitter. 878 OPS since 2021, hes basically a walking 140 OPS+ guy and hes still only 28. With a looming lockout I think you go for it Tucker. I think you keep Bo at 2nd as well, and just try to juggle things around with all the guys.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#280 » by Madvillainy2004 » Mon Nov 10, 2025 5:32 pm

Ketel Marte being on the block is interesting but I dont think we have the assests for that lol

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