Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2

[Hal14]

If the Suns want to get out of Grayson Allen's contract then maybe Simons for Grayson and Richards is possible.

Suns are spending 80-90m for Booker and Jalen Green.
Maybe Grayson Allen is available.

Grayson looks like a good fit with the Cs.

Pass. No goons until we are a good team again.

Allen to Portland
Simons to Phoenix
Williams III to Boston

No thanks to the guy who's knees are trash and can never stay healthy. I'd rather keep Simons..

Love Rob though and wish him the best!

[keevsnick1]

Pass. No goons until we are a good team again.

Allen to Portland
Simons to Phoenix
Williams III to Boston

No thanks to the guy who's knees are trash and can never stay healthy. I'd rather keep Simons..

How about this:

Boston (saves 11.8 million)
Out: Anfernee Simons, Luka Garza
In: Robert Williams, Nick Richards

Portland:
Out: Robert Williams
In: Grayson Allen

Phoenix
Out: Nick Richards, Grayson Allen
In: Anfernee Simons, Luka Garza

Its works in the fan spo trade machine.

Celtics save a bunch of money, add both a solid backup center in Richards and a fan favorite in Williams. Suns open up more playing time for their young bigs in Malawach and Mark Williams, take on money this year but move off future money in Grayson Allens contract. Blazers get a pretty solid SG at decent money.

Maybe needs to be draft picks involved, probably going to Phoenix? But it both saves Boston money this year and maybe even makes them better the rest of the year. Robert Williams III would be center depth instead of being relied upon. They could take him and Richards into the Porzingis TPE and generate a new 27.6-million-dollar TPE from the Simons contract. They get rid of both Simons and Garza in one go.

Note: Garza can't be traded until December 15th.

[redslastlaugh]

Keevs is Cookin'! Sign Me up!!

Allen to Portland
Simons to Phoenix
Williams III to Boston

No thanks to the guy who's knees are trash and can never stay healthy. I'd rather keep Simons..

How about this:

Boston (saves 9.4 million)
Out: Anfernee Simons, Luka Garza
In: Robert Williams, Nick Richards

Portland:
Out: Robert Williams
In: Grayson Allen

Phoenix
Out: Nick Richards, Grayson Allen
In: Anfernee Simons, Luka Garza

Its works in the fan spo trade machine.

Celtics save a bunch of money, add both a solid backup center in Richards and a fan favorite in Williams. Suns open up more playing time for their young bigs in Malawach and Mark Williams, take on money this year but move off future money in Grayson Allens contract. Blazers get a pretty solid SG at decent money.

Maybe needs to be draft picks involved, probably going to Phoenix? But it both saves Boston money this year and maybe even makes them better the rest of the year. Robert Williams III would be center depth instead of being relied upon. They could take him and Richards into the Porzingis TPE and generate a new 27.6-million-dollar TPE from the Simons contract. They get rid of both Simons and Garza in one go

[keevsnick1]

Keevs is Cookin'! Sign Me up!!

No thanks to the guy who's knees are trash and can never stay healthy. I'd rather keep Simons..

How about this:

Boston (saves 9.4 million)
Out: Anfernee Simons, Luka Garza
In: Robert Williams, Nick Richards

Portland:
Out: Robert Williams
In: Grayson Allen

Phoenix
Out: Nick Richards, Grayson Allen
In: Anfernee Simons, Luka Garza

Its works in the fan spo trade machine.

Celtics save a bunch of money, add both a solid backup center in Richards and a fan favorite in Williams. Suns open up more playing time for their young bigs in Malawach and Mark Williams, take on money this year but move off future money in Grayson Allens contract. Blazers get a pretty solid SG at decent money.

Maybe needs to be draft picks involved, probably going to Phoenix? But it both saves Boston money this year and maybe even makes them better the rest of the year. Robert Williams III would be center depth instead of being relied upon. They could take him and Richards into the Porzingis TPE and generate a new 27.6-million-dollar TPE from the Simons contract. They get rid of both Simons and Garza in one go

Dogen's idea, just added Richards and Garza to make it even better for the Celtics (and to make the money work).

Its actually even better than I thought, it saves 11.8 million dollars which gets the C's VERY close (about 300K) from getting under the tax.

Unfortunately i don't think it works, the trade machine I used doesn't have the updates Suns roster which is right at the tax line, so they likely have no appetite for adding more money.

Its a huge problem for making trades, like 2/3's of the league is right at some tax/apron level which makes moving a guy making 27 million like Simons and taking back less money pretty hard.

[Fierce1]

The Spurs need a shooter like Hauser.

I wonder if the Spurs would trade Dylan Harper for Sam and 2 1st round picks.

Sam would fill a need.

There's really no place for Harper with the Spurs because it's going to be Fox and Castle for a while.

[Hal14]

The Spurs need a shooter like Hauser.

I wonder if the Spurs would trade Dylan Harper for Sam and 2 1st round picks.

Sam would fill a need.

There's really no place for Harper with the Spurs because it's going to be Fox and Castle for a while.

If the Spurs trade anyone, it's Fox.

They just drafted Harper with the 2nd pick. They wouldn't have done that if they didn't think there was any place for him there.

You can play all 3 of them at the same time (Harper and Castle are wing sized) and rotate them in and out if the lineup to keep them all fresh.

Spurs already have a few other wings who are somewhat like Hauser (Champagnie, Barnes, Vassell)..they would laugh at Brad for that offer.

[Fierce1]

The Spurs need a shooter like Hauser.

I wonder if the Spurs would trade Dylan Harper for Sam and 2 1st round picks.

Sam would fill a need.

There's really no place for Harper with the Spurs because it's going to be Fox and Castle for a while.

If the Spurs trade anyone, it's Fox.

They just drafted Harper with the 2nd pick. They wouldn't have done that if they didn't think there was any place for him there.

You can play all 3 of them at the same time (Harper and Castle are wing sized) and rotate them in and out if the lineup to keep them all fresh.

Spurs already have a few other wings who are somewhat like Hauser (Champagnie, Barnes, Vassell)..they would laugh at Brad for that offer.

Fox's new contract makes him untradable.
Unless it's for guys like JB and Giannis, the Spurs are stuck with Fox for a couple of seasons.

I was watching the last 2 Spurs game and it's very clear they need Fox as a closer.
Spurs are in "win now" mode and Castle, Fox, and Vassell are all they need at the Guard spots.

Maybe 3 1st round picks as long as it's 2027, 2029, and 2031.

Doesn't matter, what's more urgent is what the Cs get for Simons.

[Parliament10]

The Spurs need a shooter like Hauser.

I wonder if the Spurs would trade Dylan Harper for Sam and 2 1st round picks.

Sam would fill a need.

There's really no place for Harper with the Spurs because it's going to be Fox and Castle for a while.

If the Spurs trade anyone, it's Fox.

They just drafted Harper with the 2nd pick. They wouldn't have done that if they didn't think there was any place for him there.

You can play all 3 of them at the same time (Harper and Castle are wing sized) and rotate them in and out if the lineup to keep them all fresh.

Spurs already have a few other wings who are somewhat like Hauser (Champagnie, Barnes, Vassell)..they would laugh at Brad for that offer.

Fox's new contract makes him untradable.
Unless it's for guys like JB and Giannis, the Spurs are stuck with Fox for a couple of seasons.

I was watching the last 2 Spurs game and it's very clear they need Fox as a closer.
Spurs are in "win now" mode and Castle, Fox, and Vassell are all they need at the Guard spots.

Maybe 3 1st round picks as long as it's 2027, 2029, and 2031.

Doesn't matter, what's more urgent is what the Cs get for Simons.

I used to be in the Camp that wanted to Trade Simons' contract.
But now, I'd like to keep him, for far less going forward.

[NotAKnicksFan]

Sign me up for morant

Because talent wins in this league and we need a pg

And most importantly his value is devalued, he should come cheap in comparison

White, + hauser + future 1st 2028
For
Ja morant
the risks you take

Ja morant - pritchard
Simons - gonzo
Brown - walsh
Tatum - minott
Queeta - boucher - garza

I think you can build this team

Maybe get a good deal for simons in the offseason but i like it. Its something to look into if im brad stevens.

Morant showed he can be great when focused

[Fierce1]

Sign me up for morant

Because talent wins in this league and we need a pg

And most importantly his value is devalued, he should come cheap in comparison

White, + hauser + future 1st 2028
For
Ja morant
the risks you take

Ja morant - pritchard
Simons - gonzo
Brown - walsh
Tatum - minott
Queeta - boucher - garza

I think you can build this team

Maybe get a good deal for simons in the offseason but i like it. Its something to look into if im brad stevens.

Morant showed he can be great when focused

Not happening.

Celtics are not trading for players with questionable character.

[djFan71]

The Spurs need a shooter like Hauser.

I wonder if the Spurs would trade Dylan Harper for Sam and 2 1st round picks.

Sam would fill a need.

There's really no place for Harper with the Spurs because it's going to be Fox and Castle for a while.

C’mon man. Hugo is Amen, Hauser and a few picks for Harper? I know it’s boring waiting to get something like the 16th pick,but that’s where we are,

[Fierce1]

The Spurs need a shooter like Hauser.

I wonder if the Spurs would trade Dylan Harper for Sam and 2 1st round picks.

Sam would fill a need.

There's really no place for Harper with the Spurs because it's going to be Fox and Castle for a while.

C’mon man. Hugo is Amen, Hauser and a few picks for Harper? I know it’s boring waiting to get something like the 16th pick,but that’s where we are,

Don't underestimate Hugo.

If you're the Spurs you're not short on talent anymore.
In fact, the Spurs are in "win now" mode.
Just look at the money tied up with Fox, Vassell, and Castle.

There's just not enough playing time for all 4.

If the Spurs get rid of Vassell then that's another story.

The Spurs need shooters.

But that's really just something to think about.
What's more urgent now is what Brad can get for Simons.

The east is wide open.

[djFan71]

The Spurs need a shooter like Hauser.

I wonder if the Spurs would trade Dylan Harper for Sam and 2 1st round picks.

Sam would fill a need.

There's really no place for Harper with the Spurs because it's going to be Fox and Castle for a while.

C’mon man. Hugo is Amen, Hauser and a few picks for Harper? I know it’s boring waiting to get something like the 16th pick,but that’s where we are,

Don't underestimate Hugo.

If you're the Spurs you're not short on talent anymore.
In fact, the Spurs are in "win now" mode.
Just look at the money tied up with Fox, Vassell, and Castle.

There's just not enough playing time for all 4.

If the Spurs get rid of Vassell then that's another story.

The Spurs need shooters.

But that's really just something to think about.
What's more urgent now is what Brad can get for Simons.

The east is wide open.

You’re underestimating Amen, I like Hugo but you’re playing the out-Homer me card, where if I don’t say Hugo is as good as a top 5 pick who’s probably the best athlete in the game today with an insane bbiq, I don’t like our guy. And sure the Spurs need to make a move at some point, but they will surely do better than Harper for 2 lame firsts and Hauser.

[Fierce1]

C’mon man. Hugo is Amen, Hauser and a few picks for Harper? I know it’s boring waiting to get something like the 16th pick,but that’s where we are,

Don't underestimate Hugo.

If you're the Spurs you're not short on talent anymore.
In fact, the Spurs are in "win now" mode.
Just look at the money tied up with Fox, Vassell, and Castle.

There's just not enough playing time for all 4.

If the Spurs get rid of Vassell then that's another story.

The Spurs need shooters.

But that's really just something to think about.
What's more urgent now is what Brad can get for Simons.

The east is wide open.

You’re underestimating Amen, I like Hugo but you’re playing the out-Homer me card, where if I don’t say Hugo is as good as a top 5 pick who’s probably the best athlete in the game today with an insane bbiq, I don’t like our guy. And sure the Spurs need to make a move at some point, but they will surely do better than Harper for 2 lame firsts and Hauser.

I'm not saying Hugo is already as good as Amen.
What I'm saying is Hugo's potential is to become a similar player to Amen.

Sure the Spurs can do better than 2 firsts and Sam, but what if it's 3 firsts and Sam?

You have to factor in that the Spurs can't take in a player with a big salary.
Sam's 10m per year is very team friendly.

Anyway, it's just something to think about.
I've seen more lopsided trade proposals here.

[djFan71]

Don't underestimate Hugo.

If you're the Spurs you're not short on talent anymore.
In fact, the Spurs are in "win now" mode.
Just look at the money tied up with Fox, Vassell, and Castle.

There's just not enough playing time for all 4.

If the Spurs get rid of Vassell then that's another story.

The Spurs need shooters.

But that's really just something to think about.
What's more urgent now is what Brad can get for Simons.

The east is wide open.

You’re underestimating Amen, I like Hugo but you’re playing the out-Homer me card, where if I don’t say Hugo is as good as a top 5 pick who’s probably the best athlete in the game today with an insane bbiq, I don’t like our guy. And sure the Spurs need to make a move at some point, but they will surely do better than Harper for 2 lame firsts and Hauser.

I'm not saying Hugo is already as good as Amen.
What I'm saying is Hugo's potential is to become a similar player to Amen.

Sure the Spurs can do better than 2 firsts and Sam, but what if it's 3 firsts and Sam?

You have to factor in that the Spurs can't take in a player with a big salary.
Sam's 10m per year is very team friendly.

Anyway, it's just something to think about.
I've seen more lopsided trade proposals here.

If we get pick #2 this year, would you trade it for Luke kennard and 3 picks?

[Fierce1]

You’re underestimating Amen, I like Hugo but you’re playing the out-Homer me card, where if I don’t say Hugo is as good as a top 5 pick who’s probably the best athlete in the game today with an insane bbiq, I don’t like our guy. And sure the Spurs need to make a move at some point, but they will surely do better than Harper for 2 lame firsts and Hauser.

I'm not saying Hugo is already as good as Amen.
What I'm saying is Hugo's potential is to become a similar player to Amen.

Sure the Spurs can do better than 2 firsts and Sam, but what if it's 3 firsts and Sam?

You have to factor in that the Spurs can't take in a player with a big salary.
Sam's 10m per year is very team friendly.

Anyway, it's just something to think about.
I've seen more lopsided trade proposals here.

If we get pick #2 this year, would you trade it for Luke kennard and 3 picks?

Of course not.
But the Spurs' case is different.

Right now the Cs are looking to add talent.

The Spurs are not looking to add more talent as they are already loaded.

What the Spurs need now are complementary pieces that can relieve some of the pressure on Wemby and Fox.
The Spurs really don't have a knockdown shooter right now.

Maybe if the Spurs can make it a 3-way between Washington, Boston, and San Antonio, the Spurs might be amenable to it.

Boston gets Keldon Johnson and Dylan Harper

Washington gets Simons and Tillman

San Antonio gets CJ McCollum and Baylor Scheierman

The draft picks would have to be worked out.

[djFan71]

I'm not saying Hugo is already as good as Amen.
What I'm saying is Hugo's potential is to become a similar player to Amen.

Sure the Spurs can do better than 2 firsts and Sam, but what if it's 3 firsts and Sam?

You have to factor in that the Spurs can't take in a player with a big salary.
Sam's 10m per year is very team friendly.

Anyway, it's just something to think about.
I've seen more lopsided trade proposals here.

If we get pick #2 this year, would you trade it for Luke kennard and 3 picks?

Of course not.
But the Spurs' case is different.

Right now the Cs are looking to add talent.

The Spurs are not looking to add more talent as they are already loaded.

What the Spurs need now are complementary pieces that can relieve some of the pressure on Wemby and Fox.
The Spurs really don't have a knockdown shooter right now.

Maybe if the Spurs can make it a 3-way between Washington, Boston, and San Antonio, the Spurs might be amenable to it.

Boston gets Keldon Johnson and Dylan Harper

Washington gets Simons and Tillman

San Antonio gets CJ McCollum and Baylor Scheierman

The draft picks would have to be worked out.

I dunno man, It’s just so far off. Harper is miles away the best asset involved here.

[Fierce1]

If we get pick #2 this year, would you trade it for Luke kennard and 3 picks?

Of course not.
But the Spurs' case is different.

Right now the Cs are looking to add talent.

The Spurs are not looking to add more talent as they are already loaded.

What the Spurs need now are complementary pieces that can relieve some of the pressure on Wemby and Fox.
The Spurs really don't have a knockdown shooter right now.

Maybe if the Spurs can make it a 3-way between Washington, Boston, and San Antonio, the Spurs might be amenable to it.

Boston gets Keldon Johnson and Dylan Harper

Washington gets Simons and Tillman

San Antonio gets CJ McCollum and Baylor Scheierman

The draft picks would have to be worked out.

I dunno man, It’s just so far off. Harper is miles away the best asset involved here.

Yeah, as an asset, Harper is definitely valuable.

Don't know if 2 firsts and McCollum will be enough to entice them to part with Harper.

McCollum would really bolster their backcourt for the playoffs.

[Sane]

I'm not saying Hugo is already as good as Amen.
What I'm saying is Hugo's potential is to become a similar player to Amen.

Sure the Spurs can do better than 2 firsts and Sam, but what if it's 3 firsts and Sam?

You have to factor in that the Spurs can't take in a player with a big salary.
Sam's 10m per year is very team friendly.

Anyway, it's just something to think about.
I've seen more lopsided trade proposals here.

If we get pick #2 this year, would you trade it for Luke kennard and 3 picks?

Of course not.
But the Spurs' case is different.

Right now the Cs are looking to add talent.

The Spurs are not looking to add more talent as they are already loaded.

What the Spurs need now are complementary pieces that can relieve some of the pressure on Wemby and Fox.
The Spurs really don't have a knockdown shooter right now.

Maybe if the Spurs can make it a 3-way between Washington, Boston, and San Antonio, the Spurs might be amenable to it.

Boston gets Keldon Johnson and Dylan Harper

Washington gets Simons and Tillman

San Antonio gets CJ McCollum and Baylor Scheierman

The draft picks would have to be worked out.

Listen to your Celtics brothers, there's no GM on earth who's trading a performing #2 pick of the draft right after the draft for... shooting. They have picks too. They can just trade Keldon and a pick for an excellent shooter. They can just bring Harper along this season and trade Fox for a similar calibre forward next summer.

You have to actually put yourself in their shoes. Even if Harper were struggling badly right now, they're not giving up on him in year 1 unless it's for a trade that everyone agrees Boston lost and why would you want to do that?

It's super far. Yes you could get it done for 4-5 picks, but that becomes an overpay. There's no reason to trade him for his market value right now when they have like a 15 year window opening right now.

[Fierce1]

While I agree Harper for Sam is a stretch, the Fox trade is worse.

With this new CBA, it will be very hard to find a trade partner who's willing to take on his 57m per year contract.