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OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!)

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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#61 » by Tha Cynic » Tue Nov 11, 2025 8:25 pm

TheGeneral99 wrote:You know what the craziest thing about all of this is?

Nico could have easily waited until last summer and extended Luka 5 years with the super max and then waited until the trade deadline to deal him on the open market with probably the biggest bidding war in NBA history.


All Nico had to do was offer Luka on his expiring contract to the entire league and he would have had a massive haul anyway. That trade and the secrecy just doesn’t add up. Some fishy business was happening behind the scenes. And then Dallas miraculous winning the #1 overall pick? lol
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#62 » by DelAbbot » Tue Nov 11, 2025 8:26 pm

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DelAbbot wrote:I'm so confused. Please correct me.

I thought Luka was traded by the owner's mandate.
Nico deserves getting fired for the stupid return he got. But that stupid Mavs owner is still there - what's to celebrate?


Yeah this is what I’m confused about too lol. And it says the owner took responsibility for the trade recently basically imo admitting this trade came from ownership.


Given the number of people celebrating, I feel the owner has successfully sacrificed their scapegoat
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#63 » by C_Money » Tue Nov 11, 2025 8:29 pm

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TheGeneral99 wrote:You know what the craziest thing about all of this is?

Nico could have easily waited until last summer and extended Luka 5 years with the super max and then waited until the trade deadline to deal him on the open market with probably the biggest bidding war in NBA history.


All Nico had to do was offer Luka on his expiring contract to the entire league and he would have had a massive haul anyway. That trade and the secrecy just doesn’t add up. Some fishy business was happening behind the scenes. And then Dallas miraculous winning the #1 overall pick? lol


One day something will get leaked just like the fake Kawhi endorsement deal.
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#64 » by mdenny » Tue Nov 11, 2025 8:30 pm

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C_Money wrote:Hard to imagine what the hell anybody was thinking in that situation. All time worst trade in all of sports probably.


There is a simple explanation. Doncic losss 100 million dollars by being traded and only had 18 months left on his contract.

So as soon as trade rumors started....doncic' agent informs the entire league that he will not resign with a team that trades for him. This turns Doncic into a rental player.....thereby drastically decreasing his trade value. Not only is he is a rental player....he's also going to be bitter towards the team that he just warned not to trade for him because they just cost him 100 milloon dollars. Probably at risk of claiming "back issues" for 18 months.

So the mavs were never going to get the paul george type return on the deal.


Sounds similar to what Pascal did to us (allegedly).


Yah i guess sorta kinda. I was also thinking about kawhi.

We wouldve had to pay ALOT more if kawhi was signed for 3 or 4 seasons. But neither Kawhi nor Siakam lost 100 million dollars by being traded. The idea that Luka would've cooperated with being offered to the entire league while losing 100 milly is absurd. He would've done everything in his power to stop that.

Of course, this explanation doesn't answee the priamry question "why trade Doncic at all especially given the timing?" But it does answer the question "why didnt they get more for him?" Or "why didnt they start a bargaining war?".

They couldnt.

As for the first question.. my best guess is that they thought he had serious addiction issues and that he would become a financial liability.
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#65 » by kalel123 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 8:36 pm

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kalel123 wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:I'm so confused. Please correct me.

I thought Luka was traded by the owner's mandate.
Nico deserves getting fired for the stupid return he got. But that stupid Mavs owner is still there - what's to celebrate?


Can't force the owner to sell the team so here we are.


Donald Sterling was forced to sell the Los Angeles Clippers.

But given Cooper Flagg was then gifted to Mavs, we should say?

"Can't force the NBA commissioner to resign, so here we are"


Assuming I don't have to go and explain the difference.

But I do agree that there are number of gigantic black marks on Adam Silver (this trade, gambling, Clippers, etc.) though I don't know if they care enough to let him go either since he has delivered $$$ wise to the owners. But personally, I'm sick and tired of Silver and would be glad to see him go.
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#66 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Nov 11, 2025 8:37 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:
TheGeneral99 wrote:You know what the craziest thing about all of this is?

Nico could have easily waited until last summer and extended Luka 5 years with the super max and then waited until the trade deadline to deal him on the open market with probably the biggest bidding war in NBA history.


All Nico had to do was offer Luka on his expiring contract to the entire league and he would have had a massive haul anyway. That trade and the secrecy just doesn’t add up. Some fishy business was happening behind the scenes. And then Dallas miraculous winning the #1 overall pick? lol

Don’t be quick to label something malice that can be explained much easier with incompetence
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#67 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Nov 11, 2025 8:59 pm

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YogurtProducer wrote:What happens to AD now!!??


No one should even trade for him. Most injury prone player in the league.

If he’s cheap enough, would be worth a go.

$54M a year is a tough go though

Every time I see these deals it makes me wise the NBA had salary retention like the NHL does.


RJ + Quick?

I probably wouldn’t do that


IQ + Poeltl?

I’d do it
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#68 » by earthtone » Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:11 pm

DelAbbot wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:I'm so confused. Please correct me.

I thought Luka was traded by the owner's mandate.
Nico deserves getting fired for the stupid return he got. But that stupid Mavs owner is still there - what's to celebrate?


Yeah this is what I’m confused about too lol. And it says the owner took responsibility for the trade recently basically imo admitting this trade came from ownership.


Given the number of people celebrating, I feel the owner has successfully sacrificed their scapegoat

I haven’t seen anything to convince me that the Luka deal was an ownership mandate at all. By pretty much all accounts Dumont knew/knows nothing about basketball and trusted Nico with all decisions.

I think it was just a mix of personal animosity & smartest-man-in-the-room syndrome that made Nico want to get rid of Luka
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#69 » by earthtone » Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:15 pm

mdenny wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:
mdenny wrote:
There is a simple explanation. Doncic losss 100 million dollars by being traded and only had 18 months left on his contract.

So as soon as trade rumors started....doncic' agent informs the entire league that he will not resign with a team that trades for him. This turns Doncic into a rental player.....thereby drastically decreasing his trade value. Not only is he is a rental player....he's also going to be bitter towards the team that he just warned not to trade for him because they just cost him 100 milloon dollars. Probably at risk of claiming "back issues" for 18 months.

So the mavs were never going to get the paul george type return on the deal.


Sounds similar to what Pascal did to us (allegedly).


Yah i guess sorta kinda. I was also thinking about kawhi.

We wouldve had to pay ALOT more if kawhi was signed for 3 or 4 seasons. But neither Kawhi nor Siakam lost 100 million dollars by being traded. The idea that Luka would've cooperated with being offered to the entire league while losing 100 milly is absurd. He would've done everything in his power to stop that.

Of course, this explanation doesn't answee the priamry question "why trade Doncic at all especially given the timing?" But it does answer the question "why didnt they get more for him?" Or "why didnt they start a bargaining war?".

They couldnt.

As for the first question.. my best guess is that they thought he had serious addiction issues and that he would become a financial liability.

Anywhere he would’ve went would’ve had the same max contract, so there’s no reason for Luka or his agent to have any ill-will to the team acquiring him, only to the Mavs for trading him

I don’t think his contract situation would’ve affected his market at all, he’s a 25 year old MVP candidate. You take that risk 10/10 times
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#70 » by Morris_Shatford » Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:15 pm

I hope he ends up writing a book;
Would absolutely love to know what the week leading up to the Luka trade looked like.
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#71 » by MiamiSPX » Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:27 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:What happens to AD now!!??


No one should even trade for him. Most injury prone player in the league.


They just mentioned today that he has played 16 games out of a possible 41 for the Mavs.
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#72 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:41 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
No one should even trade for him. Most injury prone player in the league.

If he’s cheap enough, would be worth a go.

$54M a year is a tough go though

Every time I see these deals it makes me wise the NBA had salary retention like the NHL does.


RJ + Quick?

I probably wouldn’t do that


IQ + Poeltl?

I’d do it

So Shead/Agbaji/Ingram/Barnes/Davis with PG?/Dick/Battle/Mamu/Poeltl off the bench
or
Shead/RJ/Ingram/Barnes/Davis?

Neither are contenders with a ton salary and injury risk. I'll just keep IQ I think.
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#73 » by mtcan » Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:50 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:lol maybe finally one of their bigs are available now


They should start with an AD trade.

Masai would have definitely gone after AD, not sure about Bobby. Could see AD to the Warriors for a package around Kuminga, Moody and a bunch of picks maybe?

Wow...the depreciation of the asset is pretty staggering. You go from Luka Doncic --->Street Clothes Davis and Max Christie--->Kuminga, Moody and some picks....
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#74 » by mtcan » Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:55 pm

Morris_Shatford wrote:I hope he ends up writing a book;
Would absolutely love to know what the week leading up to the Luka trade looked like.

I want to see the movie. Rob Lowe as Pelinka and Michael B Jordan as Nico. Chris Evans plays Luka.
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#75 » by Thaddy » Tue Nov 11, 2025 11:28 pm

Owner wanted Luka gone. He signed off on that for sure. Nico is an employee like most of us. He accepted being the fall guy for millions.

I don't know where the fault lies in the above. You can say Nico is a sellout. But would any of you refuse millions of dollars that would at least take care of you, your kids and your grandkids?
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#76 » by scuervo1 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 11:48 pm

earthtone wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:
Yeah this is what I’m confused about too lol. And it says the owner took responsibility for the trade recently basically imo admitting this trade came from ownership.


Given the number of people celebrating, I feel the owner has successfully sacrificed their scapegoat

I haven’t seen anything to convince me that the Luka deal was an ownership mandate at all. By pretty much all accounts Dumont knew/knows nothing about basketball and trusted Nico with all decisions.

I think it was just a mix of personal animosity & smartest-man-in-the-room syndrome that made Nico want to get rid of Luka

There’s also the conspiracy that the NBA was losing viewership, didn’t have a star in L.A. since LeBron is close to retirement, and needed a marketable superstar in a major market to boost TV ratings and satisfy its biggest sponsors and media partners. And then, the young Luka was traded to the Lakers.
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#77 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Wed Nov 12, 2025 12:26 am

Derek lively is the guy to go after
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#78 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Wed Nov 12, 2025 12:27 am

scuervo1 wrote:
earthtone wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
Given the number of people celebrating, I feel the owner has successfully sacrificed their scapegoat

I haven’t seen anything to convince me that the Luka deal was an ownership mandate at all. By pretty much all accounts Dumont knew/knows nothing about basketball and trusted Nico with all decisions.

I think it was just a mix of personal animosity & smartest-man-in-the-room syndrome that made Nico want to get rid of Luka

There’s also the conspiracy that the NBA was losing viewership, didn’t have a star in L.A. since LeBron is close to retirement, and needed a marketable superstar in a major market to boost TV ratings and satisfy its biggest sponsors and media partners. And then, the young Luka was traded to the Lakers.

We’ll see. If Dallas get their casino stadium then I agree with you
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#79 » by EastonEddy » Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:24 am

Thaddy wrote:Owner wanted Luka gone. He signed off on that for sure. Nico is an employee like most of us. He accepted being the fall guy for millions.

I don't know where the fault lies in the above. You can say Nico is a sellout. But would any of you refuse millions of dollars that would at least take care of you, your kids and your grandkids?
.

He was a respected GM before the trade and the Mavs just reached the Finals. He didn't need to be a fall guy and torpedo his whole career for a measly extension.

People don't just blindly do what their bosses tell them unless they have no back bone if it is going to destroy their reputation and career.

His career in the NBA is now over.
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Re: OT: Nico Harrison Fired ( FINALLY!) 

Post#80 » by anotherhomer » Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:38 am

AkelaLoneWolf wrote:Derek lively is the guy to go after


any sane person running Mavs would know it's Lively, Christie, and Flagg part of the next batch

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