Ja Morant

[TheGeneral99]

This guy isnt a good NBA player lol. His 3pt percentage for a PG is TERRIBLE. It's the reason why they looked better with Jones as their starter the prior season.

I think I would rather have IQ lol. Cheaper, flat contract, better shooter, more valuable for putting together a winning group.

He was fantastic when he was more explosive and insanely aggressive back in 2022.

The issue is he essentially missed 2 years of basketball due to his off-court issues and injury. He's not as explosive as he was and isn't nearly as aggressive as he was.

And he's a red flag because his style of play is going to become an issue as he gets older.

Ja is only 26 years old and it was a shoulder injury, why could he not get back the explosiveness he had?

The Masai/Bobby strategy that many supported was to seek & pounce for a distressed star for cheap when the situation arise. Well, we are in this situation and if all it took is a trade where IQ is the best player going out, then from that strategy's perspective & asset management perspective, you do it and then leave it to your highly touted development coach (Darko) to rehab Ja back into his all star, All-NBA 2nd Team form.

Again, under the "go for the distressed star strategy," this is a no brainer. This would only step one though because this creates a bigger hole from a 3PT shooting perspective. Bobby will have work to do but at least if Ja can be rehabilitated, we'd have a legit star (BI ain't it) to build upon.

Maybe, but his style of play makes him much more susceptible to injury, and even before his off-court issues he still missed significant playing time every season, even at his peak. The most games he played in a given season was 67 in his rookie year. Even in his best two years in 2022 and 2023, he missed 25 and 21 games.

He has not shown any improvement skill wise since his 3rd season, which is not conducive to him being able to have a long career. Moreover, he's not a physically "strong" player who can handle contact well, so even if he is aggressive, his body can't withstand so much pounding.

Not worth the risk unless you can just swap Quickley and Walters/Dick straight up...I wouldn't give any future picks in a deal.

[Kurtz]

This guy isnt a good NBA player lol. His 3pt percentage for a PG is TERRIBLE. It's the reason why they looked better with Jones as their starter the prior season.

I think I would rather have IQ lol. Cheaper, flat contract, better shooter, more valuable for putting together a winning group.

He was fantastic when he was more explosive and insanely aggressive back in 2022.

The issue is he essentially missed 2 years of basketball due to his off-court issues and injury. He's not as explosive as he was and isn't nearly as aggressive as he was.

And he's a red flag because his style of play is going to become an issue as he gets older.

This post reads like it's describing Vince's last year here.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

This guy isnt a good NBA player lol. His 3pt percentage for a PG is TERRIBLE. It's the reason why they looked better with Jones as their starter the prior season.

I think I would rather have IQ lol. Cheaper, flat contract, better shooter, more valuable for putting together a winning group.

He was fantastic when he was more explosive and insanely aggressive back in 2022.

The issue is he essentially missed 2 years of basketball due to his off-court issues and injury. He's not as explosive as he was and isn't nearly as aggressive as he was.

And he's a red flag because his style of play is going to become an issue as he gets older.

This post reads like it's describing Vince's last year here.

Vince needs ankle surgery, he wont last. His dunking days are over!

[TheGeneral99]

He was fantastic when he was more explosive and insanely aggressive back in 2022.

The issue is he essentially missed 2 years of basketball due to his off-court issues and injury. He's not as explosive as he was and isn't nearly as aggressive as he was.

And he's a red flag because his style of play is going to become an issue as he gets older.

This post reads like it's describing Vince's last year here.

Vince needs ankle surgery, he wont last. His dunking days are over!

Vince was an excellent shooter with deep range, had a post-game, was able to catch and shoot, shoot off the dribble, fadeways off either leg etc. Not to mention he was stronger and a great finisher around the basket.

In 2003-2004, VC was still all-star level in terms of advanced stats (16th in BPM, 16th in VORP) and played 79 games in his final full season with us while in 2025 Ja was ranked 43rd in BPM, and 70th in VORP and missed 32 games.

So no this is not identical whatsoever.

[Thaddy]

He was fantastic when he was more explosive and insanely aggressive back in 2022.

The issue is he essentially missed 2 years of basketball due to his off-court issues and injury. He's not as explosive as he was and isn't nearly as aggressive as he was.

And he's a red flag because his style of play is going to become an issue as he gets older.

This post reads like it's describing Vince's last year here.

Vince needs ankle surgery, he wont last. His dunking days are over!

I don't think we want anyone who dominates the ball. We're good because of our balanced attack. It makes us impossible to game plan against.

I would argue we are above average in our back court. Once Quick comes alive and starts rolling he'll look better than Morant.

Teams are game planing against Ingram, RJ and Barnes. The fourth best defender is on IQ. He will eventually capitalize on that.

[Merit]

This post reads like it's describing Vince's last year here.

Vince needs ankle surgery, he wont last. His dunking days are over!

I don't think we want anyone who dominates the ball. We're good because of our balanced attack. It makes us impossible to game plan against.

I would argue we are above average in our back court. Once Quick comes alive and starts rolling he'll look better than Morant.

Teams are game planing against Ingram, RJ and Barnes. The fourth best defender is on IQ. He will eventually capitalize on that.

For the record, I’m of largely the same opinion as you. My only question is, wouldn’t the same apply were we to get Ja?

Don’t get me wrong, character is a major factor, as is 3 point shooting. Let’s get quick rolling, I agree.

[dballislife]

i aint wasting no assets on ja...im saving up all my ammo on one big move imo

[Thaddy]

Vince needs ankle surgery, he wont last. His dunking days are over!

I don't think we want anyone who dominates the ball. We're good because of our balanced attack. It makes us impossible to game plan against.

I would argue we are above average in our back court. Once Quick comes alive and starts rolling he'll look better than Morant.

Teams are game planing against Ingram, RJ and Barnes. The fourth best defender is on IQ. He will eventually capitalize on that.

For the record, I’m of largely the same opinion as you. My only question is, wouldn’t the same apply were we to get Ja?

Don’t get me wrong, character is a major factor, as is 3 point shooting. Let’s get quick rolling, I agree.

Not really. He dominates the ball regardless of who's on him. If the other team puts their best defender on Morant I don't trust him to make the right pass.

[Stromile12]

Raptors don't covet players with low character like Morant, I don't see it happening

[Merit]

I don't think we want anyone who dominates the ball. We're good because of our balanced attack. It makes us impossible to game plan against.

I would argue we are above average in our back court. Once Quick comes alive and starts rolling he'll look better than Morant.

Teams are game planing against Ingram, RJ and Barnes. The fourth best defender is on IQ. He will eventually capitalize on that.

For the record, I’m of largely the same opinion as you. My only question is, wouldn’t the same apply were we to get Ja?

Don’t get me wrong, character is a major factor, as is 3 point shooting. Let’s get quick rolling, I agree.

Not really. He dominates the ball regardless of who's on him. If the other team puts their best defender on Morant I don't trust him to make the right pass.

On that we disagree. I think the balanced attack makes us harder to game plan for, yes. I think that we have a better shooter and team player in IQ. A Ja/Jak pnr would be lethal.

[Thaddy]

For the record, I’m of largely the same opinion as you. My only question is, wouldn’t the same apply were we to get Ja?

Don’t get me wrong, character is a major factor, as is 3 point shooting. Let’s get quick rolling, I agree.

Not really. He dominates the ball regardless of who's on him. If the other team puts their best defender on Morant I don't trust him to make the right pass.

On that we disagree. I think the balanced attack makes us harder to game plan for, yes. I think that we have a better shooter and team player in IQ. A Ja/Jak pnr would be lethal.

Would you want that play ran 60-75% of the time? That's what happening in Memphis. That's why they are better when he isn't playing.

[Rainman66]

Most I'd do is
IQ + Gradey + Ochai + a pick
For
Ja and salary filler (maybe a big from a 3rd team)

This the deal I like most with the salary filler being Zach Edey, memphis may hang up the phone for Edey but if they want to banish Morant to Canada its gonna cost you.

[canada_dry]

Shot below 30% again tonight vs the knicks

Like i said. COOKED. Stay away.

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[Boogie!]

Most I'd do is
IQ + Gradey + Ochai + a pick
For
Ja and salary filler (maybe a big from a 3rd team)

This the deal I like most with the salary filler being Zach Edey, memphis may hang up the phone for Edey but if they want to banish Morant to Canada its gonna cost you.

Getting rid of the best shooter in our starting lineup is no good. Ja does not fit next to Barnes and Ingram at all.

[MiamiSPX]

Shot below 30% again tonight vs the knicks

Like i said. COOKED. Stay away.

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[anotherhomer]

Most I'd do is
IQ + Gradey + Ochai + a pick
For
Ja and salary filler (maybe a big from a 3rd team)

This the deal I like most with the salary filler being Zach Edey, memphis may hang up the phone for Edey but if they want to banish Morant to Canada its gonna cost you.

Getting rid of the best shooter in our starting lineup is no good. Ja does not fit next to Barnes and Ingram at all.

ya if you get Ja, you have to revamp the entire line-up, not just IQ, but also RJ and Barnes
plus no GM on a short-leash will risk their entire career on Ja

[Thaddy]

Quick has come alive. No way I do this trade. I doubt we'd see Morant go 3/8 from 3pt range like that.

[Rainman66]

Getting rid of the best shooter in our starting lineup is no good. Ja does not fit next to Barnes and Ingram at all.

ya if you get Ja, you have to revamp the entire line-up, not just IQ, but also RJ and Barnes
plus no GM on a short-leash will risk their entire career on Ja

Im not the greatest advocate for acquiring Ja but mock trades do have us as his 4th best landing spot so its worth discussing. Ja also expires one year sooner than IQ and fits the 3 year window we have with Bi. Ja is also a more battle tested player and more suitable for playoffs, IQ while still good strikes me too much of a 6th man/Lou Williams type.

[Tha Cynic]

He’s most likely intentionally playing like **** to get traded. But he has also not improved much over the years.

This guy and Zion are such a huge waste of talent. They should have been a couple of legit superstars for the US who keeps trying to anoint any young player as the next heir apparent. Haven’t heard much about Edwards this year. Did he get anyone else pregnant?

[Kurtz]

Most I'd do is
IQ + Gradey + Ochai + a pick
For
Ja and salary filler (maybe a big from a 3rd team)

This the deal I like most with the salary filler being Zach Edey, memphis may hang up the phone for Edey but if they want to banish Morant to Canada its gonna cost you.

Man, if we could get Edey in a deal that'd be phenomenal - imo the kid is the next Brook Lopez.