Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[41Dirk41]

I'm not so high on Gaff...

How would you rank 1-17?

1) Coop
2) Max-Lively
3)PJ

4) others.

1) untouchable.
2) only a no brainer trade
3) i don't know. Probably sell him high.

4) trade them for Kids and picks.

[41Dirk41]

I'm not so high on Gaff...

To me value comes in his intestinal fortitude. Gafford gives the Mavs some toughness. He’s also healthier than Lively. He’s still a backup center (defensive rim rolling center) but he is someone I would like the Mavs to keep. Especially with Coop on the floor (and if they keep Kyrie). Gafford’s ability to block shots can lead to a lot of fast breaks and I’m anxious to see a fast break with Kyrie and Cooper. They still need a stretch big but Gafford does fit with Cooper and Kyrie if they want to play fast.

I remember PO series when he was completely unplayable... Good back-up C, no more.

[Mr B]

I'm not so high on Gaff...

To me value comes in his intestinal fortitude. Gafford gives the Mavs some toughness. He’s also healthier than Lively. He’s still a backup center (defensive rim rolling center) but he is someone I would like the Mavs to keep. Especially with Coop on the floor (and if they keep Kyrie). Gafford’s ability to block shots can lead to a lot of fast breaks and I’m anxious to see a fast break with Kyrie and Cooper. They still need a stretch big but Gafford does fit with Cooper and Kyrie if they want to play fast.

I remember PO series when he was completely unplayable... Good back-up C, no more.

No I agree he’s a backup center and in some cases he can be made to be unplayable.

The Mavs do need a starting center who can provide some offense but I do like Gafford’s toughness.

If the Mavs can get AD back on the court for a good stretch of games and if he can drop 10-15 lbs I’d like to see if Milwaukee would be interested in giving up Myles Turner. I know AD and Giannis are terrible fits but you never know until you ask. Milwaukee could be desperate enough and could see AD as an upgrade over Turner. Lots of if’s I know.

[Bob8]

To me value comes in his intestinal fortitude. Gafford gives the Mavs some toughness. He’s also healthier than Lively. He’s still a backup center (defensive rim rolling center) but he is someone I would like the Mavs to keep. Especially with Coop on the floor (and if they keep Kyrie). Gafford’s ability to block shots can lead to a lot of fast breaks and I’m anxious to see a fast break with Kyrie and Cooper. They still need a stretch big but Gafford does fit with Cooper and Kyrie if they want to play fast.

I remember PO series when he was completely unplayable... Good back-up C, no more.

No I agree he’s a backup center and in some cases he can be made to be unplayable.

The Mavs do need a starting center who can provide some offense but I do like Gafford’s toughness.

If the Mavs can get AD back on the court for a good stretch of games and if he can drop 10-15 lbs I’d like to see if Milwaukee would be interested in giving up Myles Turner. I know AD and Giannis are terrible fits but you never know until you ask. Milwaukee could be desperate enough and could see AD as an upgrade over Turner. Lots of if’s I know.

AD is out next 10 days, like things are looking he might not play again for Mavs.

[Mr B]

I remember PO series when he was completely unplayable... Good back-up C, no more.

No I agree he’s a backup center and in some cases he can be made to be unplayable.

The Mavs do need a starting center who can provide some offense but I do like Gafford’s toughness.

If the Mavs can get AD back on the court for a good stretch of games and if he can drop 10-15 lbs I’d like to see if Milwaukee would be interested in giving up Myles Turner. I know AD and Giannis are terrible fits but you never know until you ask. Milwaukee could be desperate enough and could see AD as an upgrade over Turner. Lots of if’s I know.

AD is out next 10 days, like things are going he might not play again for Mavs.

That could also be true. And I believe that would be best if they can trade him now for a young player and a pick or at least get a pick in this coming draft.

According to what is being said though it doesn’t seem they are in a hurry to trade him. They could easily trade him at the deadline or they could even wait until the off season.

Ideally I’d like to get rid of him as soon as possible but they need to be smart about it and shop him and get the best possible trade package for him. Best case scenario they end up with another top 10 pick (besides their own) in this upcoming draft. Put another young star next to Cooper and let’s kick this rebuild into high gear.

[Archx]

I'm not so high on Gaff...

How would you rank 1-17?

1) Coop
2) Max-Lively
3)PJ

4) others.

1) untouchable.
2) only a no brainer trade
3) i don't know. Probably sell him high.

4) trade them for Kids and picks.

I'm personally offended that you didn't include BWill on your no trade list

[Maverick41]

For me, my untouchables are:

1. Cooper Flagg. No explanation needed.
2. PJ Washington. Elite role player. Young enough to fit Flagg's timeline and on a solid contract. For me, he's a Mavs lifer.
3. Max Christie. Very good young 3&D player. He won't be a star but he's a guy that can fit any team and play 30+ mpg.

Everyone else can be had for the right price. Lively I'd hate to trade, but if the right trade came along, his health concerns are bad enough for me to move on from before it gets worse.

[Super Cooper]

I'm not so high on Gaff...

To me value comes in his intestinal fortitude. Gafford gives the Mavs some toughness. He’s also healthier than Lively. He’s still a backup center (defensive rim rolling center) but he is someone I would like the Mavs to keep. Especially with Coop on the floor (and if they keep Kyrie). Gafford’s ability to block shots can lead to a lot of fast breaks and I’m anxious to see a fast break with Kyrie and Cooper. They still need a stretch big but Gafford does fit with Cooper and Kyrie if they want to play fast.

I totally agree. I don’t understand why fans aren’t big on bigger on his staying.

That intestinal fortitude you mentioned o see in PJ and Naji also.

[kevin44]

With Cuban back he will make the best deal for AD. There will be some interest but the longer he sits.

[Super Cooper]

Why don’t Gaff and Naji get more love on this board. I feel like if they were on other teams there’d be calls to trade for them lol

[Super Cooper]

Tonight was definitely the best game of the season. Gaff showed what he can do when playing against non-stretch bigs. PJ was insane from 3. Incredibly balanced scoring. Coop continues to fill the stat sheet. The frontcourt looked great, ironically with AD in street clothes lol

Team tank may not be happy with how this team can play.

[GermanFan120]

Untouchables for me:

Flagg
PJ
Max
Lively
Nembhard

Must go list below. The following players are either not fitting in Flagg's timeline or not good enough to be kept.

Klay (not good enough)
AD (not good enough)
Ky
Martin (not good enough)
Hardy (not good enough)
Powell (not good enough)
Gafford
Russell (not good enough)
Exum (not good enough)
Marshall
(Names not mentioned can be thrown in as fillers too)

[arkuo]

IMO Lively has to prove he can stat healthy first. A kid his age has to be able to play 82 games with no problems. He hasn't done that so far.

[Mavrelous]

I'd keep most and run it back next year, unless AD can bring something worth it.
I'm against selling AD for peanuts and then trying to get picks for the rest.

Players that should go, though I consider bad contracts:
Klay
Hardy
Martin

Players Inwouldn't mind using as postitive value to.dump these 3:
Gafford
Naji

Players Inwoildn't trade at all
Flagg
PJ
Christie
Lively (his value is very low, no point of trading him)

If someone offers expiring for Gafford/Klay/Martin/Hardy, I take it immediately and rest next year.

[Forbes]

Flagg and Christie are keepers.
PJ the way he seem to have improved to be able to score on his own I don’t mind keeping but I’m not attached to him if there’s good value in a trade.

AD needs to be traded to the bulls with the target being that 2026 pick. They will still be in the lottery. With AD as he can’t lead a team and he going to get injured as he always does.

If they decide to keep Kyrie and not tank then I actually think we would still be a solid team. He just haven’t had a high level go to player.

Everyone is pretty much tradeable. Hardy and Russell 100% need to go.

Lively is so injury prone im over him although his defense is quite impact. Hes also extremely foul prone as well. Basically if you can’t stay on the floor what’s the point of keeping you.

We 100% might as well tank and pray for a top 5 pick using our pick and the Bulls if we were to get it. Would love to pair Coop with Dybansta or Peterson.

[MassimoPayne]

I don't believe that there is much interest in AD as long he in not playing. When he will be back he was again 1 month of the floor... He is always going from a few days to multiple weeks

[Mavrelous]

PJ is the biggest keeper on roster after Flagg IMO, the team wants to compete again very quickly, PJ is crucial to do that, Flagg/PJ as forward tandem would be one of the best on the league.

[tribulations]

For me, my untouchables are:

1. Cooper Flagg. No explanation needed.
2. PJ Washington. Elite role player. Young enough to fit Flagg's timeline and on a solid contract. For me, he's a Mavs lifer.
3. Max Christie. Very good young 3&D player. He won't be a star but he's a guy that can fit any team and play 30+ mpg.

Everyone else can be had for the right price. Lively I'd hate to trade, but if the right trade came along, his health concerns are bad enough for me to move on from before it gets worse.

Thoughts on Ky? If I'm Mavs brass we work together to build a trade to a destination that Irving is supportive of or if he's happy to rehab this season then return next as the veteran voice as we rebuild I'm all for him finishing out his days in Dallas. I also love the bond he had with Luka.

I'd like to keep Max but prepared to attach (if necessary) in a deal that gets us off AD. For what its worth I'd be willing to wait for Davis if we were mid playoff picture and he was the piece to out us over the top, but as the roster is currently (poorly) constructed, he's the difference between us bottoming out in lottery and being a play in team.

Also, and it's no hate on Davis, it's traumatic constantly being reminded of the Luka trade every time I see the Mavs 3 jersey with him in it. I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking this is an important step to rebuild the relationship with people that buy the tickets, streams, merch etc

[Archx]

Why don’t Gaff and Naji get more love on this board. I feel like if they were on other teams there’d be calls to trade for them lol

Same situation as with BWill. People are SO EAGER to trade everyone but they don't even look at the contracts for example. BWill is a talent developed "in house" and is insanely valuable off the bench.
Naji, very cheap contract and very valuable veteran off the bench. Gafford has proven he's basically more healthy and therefore simply a better player than Lively. Even when Lively plays, he has non stop foul troubles and needs to be replaced.

Flagg/Christie/Lively/BWill should be the primary young core that 100% needs to stay but i'm really not sure about Lively anymore.

Mavs will have to make some tough decisions. Understandable these players could potentially get you back nice draft capital or a young player but they'll have to be careful who to trade.

FIrst ones to go should obviously be Klay, AD and Kyrie. Then you make valuation what you got from all of that and what you still need.

[Maverick41]

Thoughts on Ky? If I'm Mavs brass we work together to build a trade to a destination that Irving is supportive of or if he's happy to rehab this season then return next as the veteran voice as we rebuild I'm all for him finishing out his days in Dallas. I also love the bond he had with Luka.

My preference is to keep Ky and let him tutor Flagg and whoever our next FRP becomes. Hes a good lockeroom presence and is really good off the ball so he would only help Flagg imo. He also has a tremendous amount of influence on free agent attractability. Other players just like him.

But if Ky wants to contend, I'd be okay with trading him. If not, I'd love for him to finish his career in DAL.