2025 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread

[He2Fast]

The deal is essentially 1 injury prone guy and a piece or 2 for a much better injury prone guy. It’s risky but there’s a high reward. I wonder if a better option or 2 shake free over the next 2-3 months leading up to the deadline

I think it’s reasonable to say that it’s all relative to what the cost is for AD. Bam and a reasonably healthy AD, with Ware off the bench and a spot starter when AD inevitably misses games, that’s a pretty damn good big man rotation.

AD and Bam is so good defensively that you and me could play and the defense would be just fine lol

[Crazy-Canuck]

The deal is essentially 1 injury prone guy and a piece or 2 for a much better injury prone guy. It’s risky but there’s a high reward. I wonder if a better option or 2 shake free over the next 2-3 months leading up to the deadline

I think it’s reasonable to say that it’s all relative to what the cost is for AD. Bam and a reasonably healthy AD, with Ware off the bench and a spot starter when AD inevitably misses games, that’s a pretty damn good big man rotation.

AD and Bam is so good defensively that you and me could play and the defense would be just fine lol

Well, you 2 would be an upgrade over Powell and herro.

As great a defensive trio, bam, ad, and ware could be. Imo, it still wouldn't be enough with 3 turnstiles up front in powell, herro, and jovic (assuming, wiggins, mitchell, and Jaime are who the fans prefer to unload).

[TroubleS0me]

Yea exactly they were ducking us

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And unfortunately still beat us on our home court after we led by 14 in the 2nd half

yea they did lol

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Teardown is coming, gotta think the following will be shopped:

AD
Kyrie
PJ Washington
Klay
Naji Marshall
Gafford

[heater4life]

Heat are in a predicament. Do you you reinforce around current talent or flip it. Powell is expiring, Wiggins on a PO essentially is on the same boat, Fontecchio has upped his value immensely, Jaime and Herro due extensions.

Acquire superior talent flipping current cast or pay our cast and assume it’s sustainable?

[Hoops3355]

I'm higher on this team than most of you judging by the pre-season predictions (mine were fire don't worry fam) I'd be surprised we'd make a move for anyone prior to the week of the trade deadline. A lot of teams have upcoming logical pivot points and CBA cap crunch looming. Plus a generational talents in the draft. Lots of sellers at the deadline incoming.

We're not that far away, just need to consolidate some of the assets but not trade the boat / block dev paths.

The problem is there really isn't a guy whose like 1b that we can turn into a 1a that isn't locked in / price is right. Like Trey Murphy would cost like multiple picks + assets and you have to take a bad contract back potentially and he's not even available realistically.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I'm higher on this team than most of you judging by the pre-season predictions (mine were fire don't worry fam) I'd be surprised we'd make a move for anyone prior to the week of the trade deadline. A lot of teams have upcoming logical pivot points and CBA cap crunch looming. Plus a generational talents in the draft. Lots of sellers at the deadline incoming.

We're not that far away, just need to consolidate some of the assets but not trade the boat / block dev paths.

The problem is there really isn't a guy whose like 1b that we can turn into a 1a that isn't locked in / price is right. Like Trey Murphy would cost like multiple picks + assets and you have to take a bad contract back potentially and he's not even available realistically.

Yeah I’m not sure we can afford to throw assets at a guy thats not a bonafide #1 guy, we have the great supporting cast right now, we need to fit that #1 guy in there and we’re good to go. We need the Terry stuff solved and we need our pick back for getting fleeced by the Hornets and league who knew about all this stuff prior and never disclosed to us. That opens A LOT of options for us. You package Terry with 1 of Herro/Powell/Wiggins plus assets and you can match salary for any star in the league

[BadMofoPimp]

Hard no to AD and his injury riddled contract as there would be too many bigs and would rather keep Ware and Bam.

[Lennyzinho]

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Teardown is coming, gotta think the following will be shopped:

AD
Kyrie
PJ Washington
Klay
Naji Marshall
Gafford

Kyrie on this roster would be fun. But the dude is turning 34 this season and then has two years left at 40M, coming off knee surgery. Quite the risk to take. I don't think we are desperate enough to take a chance on Kyrie like that.

We already have plenty of Naji type guys. Klay < fart sound >. Gafford doesn't shoot 3's and wouldn't fit our scheme and some team that wants size vs Wemby and Jokic will offer more.

AD is elite talent, but too injury prone, and would cost too much. Mavs are gonna hold out for a haul. Because whatever they get for AD, will forever be linked as essentially the return for Luka, plus a 1st from Lakers.

Who I actually like is PJW. If people aren't happy with Jovic, PJW is a good 3 & D type guy making 20-21-23-24. Has good size at 6'7 to match up and play the 4 in small ball lineups. For comparison sake, Andrew Wiggins is 6'6 200. PJW is 6'7 230. I don't think it's a great contract, but we if sour on Jovic for whatever reason, and we can get rid of Rozier $$$, it's a good win now move that shouldn't really cost us too much other than Jovic. If it does then forget it. Dallas gets a young developing player and saves money while we get a more win now type guy that can still contribute for years to come.

But who we all really want is Giannis.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Teardown is coming, gotta think the following will be shopped:

AD
Kyrie
PJ Washington
Klay
Naji Marshall
Gafford

Kyrie on this roster would be fun. But the dude is turning 34 this season and then has two years left at 40M, coming off knee surgery. Quite the risk to take. I don't think we are desperate enough to take a chance on Kyrie like that.

We already have plenty of Naji type guys. Klay < fart sound >. Gafford doesn't shoot 3's and wouldn't fit our scheme and some team that wants size vs Wemby and Jokic will offer more.

AD is elite talent, but too injury prone, and would cost too much. Mavs are gonna hold out for a haul. Because whatever they get for AD, will forever be linked as essentially the return for Luka, plus a 1st from Lakers.

Who I actually like is PJW. If people aren't happy with Jovic, PJW is a good 3 & D type guy making 20-21-23-24. Has good size at 6'7 to match up and play the 4 in small ball lineups. For comparison sake, Andrew Wiggins is 6'6 200. PJW is 6'7 230. I don't think it's a great contract, but we if sour on Jovic for whatever reason, and we can get rid of Rozier $$$, it's a good win now move that shouldn't really cost us too much other than Jovic. If it does then forget it. Dallas gets a young developing player and saves money while we get a more win now type guy that can still contribute for years to come.

But who we all really want is Giannis.

Giannis is definitely who this front office is holding out hope for too. PJW would be a good get like you mentioned, he was huge for the Mavs finals run.

[al bondiga]

face it...we are not getting ad or ja morant Or anybody else if we are a five hundred% team before the deadline... Especially if we haven't had a full season of just hero and bam.

[DayofMourning]

Jovic str8 up for Lively.

[SA37]

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Teardown is coming, gotta think the following will be shopped:

AD
Kyrie
PJ Washington
Klay
Naji Marshall
Gafford

The Mavs would be idiots to blow it up. Everyone is on reasonable deals except AD. I don't see them doing anything beyond trying to move Klay and AD.

Kyrie is making $36, $39, and $42 over the next 3 seasons including this one. That's a good contract and he's a guy that can allow Flagg to play off the ball and not have all the attention on him.

Klay to Olynyk makes some sense. San Antonio gets another vet and sharp shooter with a low commitment (2 years max, including this year on Klay's contract).

Davis is the bigger problem to move, but if Dallas's price is low enough, he can be moved and they save ~$150M over the next 3 years. I still think Golden State is the team that makes the most sense here: Davis for Draymond and Kuminga. This may have massive financial implications for Golden State, but:

Horford / Post
AD / Jackson-Davis
Butler / Moody
Curry / Podziemski
Hield / GPII

Another option would be Gobert and Conley for AD. Makes a lot of sense for Minnesota, IMO.

[SA37]

Heat are in a predicament. Do you you reinforce around current talent or flip it. Powell is expiring, Wiggins on a PO essentially is on the same boat, Fontecchio has upped his value immensely, Jaime and Herro due extensions.

Acquire superior talent flipping current cast or pay our cast and assume it’s sustainable?

I'd like to see Miami re-sign Powell. I think he'd do something like a 3-year, ~$70-$75M deal. Preferably, it'd be a declining contract, so ~$27M, $25M, $23M OR $25M in each season.

I don't care for Wiggins' game, but if he opts-in and stays another year, that's ideal.

Fontecchio should be very affordable to keep around.

I think Miami should pass on any extension for Herro that significantly surpasses $35M/season on average, so roughly 4-years, $150M would be the max, which would have him on a total of 5-years, $183M.

Similar situation with Jaquez, although his extension will depend a lot on if he can keep up his current form over the season (currently at 17-7r-5a on 52 FG%). Miami cornered themselves here a bit since they have a completely unproven player in Jovic $62M guaranteed over 4 years. Jaquez will want significantly more than that, like something closer to $80-$90M over 4 years.

[twix2500]

Do you trade Jovic for Kuminga? Does Kuminga fit the new system?

1: Herro
2: Powell
3: Kuminga
4: Wiggins
5: Adebayo

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[SA37]

Do you trade Jovic for Kuminga? Does Kuminga fit the new system?

1: Herro
2: Powell
3: Kuminga
4: Wiggins
5: Adebayo

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I'd be for this, but I think there are potential issues, mainly whether he would start or not. Kuminga would likely become a distraction if he didn't start, and I am not sure Miami wants to commit to a Bam-Kuminga-Wiggins-Powell-Herro starting lineup. Otherwise, Kuminga seemingly fits and gives Miami another guy who can get to the basket. He'd also be in a position to naturally take over for Wiggins once his contract is up. The question is, will Kuminga continue to insist on such a wildly inflated contract number on his next contract?

I'm not super high on Kuminga, but he is on a team-friendly contract for now (team option for $24M next year) and I have a supremely low opinion of Jovic, so I'd be thrilled to see Miami get out of paying him $62M.

[EMC5466]

Warriors need to get Komepinga off their team. It’s clear the vets don’t want him in the locker room anymore.

[Kobewade11]

Do you trade Jovic for Kuminga? Does Kuminga fit the new system?

1: Herro
2: Powell
3: Kuminga
4: Wiggins
5: Adebayo

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I was open to Kuminga over the summer. Early returns on Joviv havent been great but Kuminga hasnt impressed either..i’m fine watching him destroy GS’ season.

[Vertical Limit]

Only reason id consider Kuminga is because his deal is an expiring after this season and we can quickly get rid of the Jovic extension mistake.

But on the court i have doubts Kuminga fits..

[twix2500]

Only reason id consider Kuminga is because his deal is an expiring after this season and we can quickly get rid of the Jovic extension mistake.

But on the court i have doubts Kuminga fits..

I think he actually fits very well. He is a guy who can put the ball on the floor and attack the basket from the wing and corner. He is a very good rebounder and can excel running the full court. He has the athleticism to play an attacking style of defense. He is an excellent cutter, and that's why Larsson is excelling in the starting lineup. Bam, Jamie, Herro, Powell, and Mitchell have occupied all the touches at the top. We need players who can excel at the wing and corner in this five-out scheme.

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